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Nitrate55, in A Lufthansa pilot traced a 15-mile-long penis shape in the sky after being asked to divert his plane
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It remains unclear whether the pilot intentionally designed the shape. Insider asked Lufthansa about this, but the airline avoided the question in its response.

Lmfao

psycho_driver, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

I might be able to come up with a list of 1,000 people I’d like to send to Venus. 100 for sure.

the_kalash,

I think we should keep with the ocean gate tradition of sending billionaires.

SulaymanF, (edited ) in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

Why Venus? Because Mars was somehow taken?

21Cabbage,

Cause it sounds new and exciting and will get him more suckers to defraud, presumably.

lurkandtwerk, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

it’s not the onion, but it is the post—which should be treated with equal seriousness as the onion.

downpunxx, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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click/rage bait

khaleesa, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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Oh, I’m sure after what happened to the submersible that they’ll have volunteers lining up around the block for a space flight.

/s

Rozauhtuno, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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Gotta love rich people trying to make their personal space kingdom instead of fixing the mess they made down here.

I call dibs on the joypad. Don’t worry, I’m decedent at Gran Turismo.

outrageousmatter, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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This article must be a joke, no one is literally that dumb. Like Venus surface is basically hell, just some really small miscalucation and bam your dead, body will just burn to nothing. The crash site may exist or not, but it’s extremely stupid.

IHeartBadCode,
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Alright so it's a colony NOT on the surface, hence the floating. Now the guy is still an idiot but the idea he's pitching is hypothetically possible.

Oxygen is less dense than the Venusian atmosphere. So hypothetically speaking, one could fill a balloon with an O₂ and N₂ mixture that is slightly oxygen richer than here on Earth and the balloon would float above the vast majority of the Venusian atmosphere where all the acid rain and huge temperatures would be. Much like a Helium or Hydrogen balloon floats here on Earth because the gas is less dense than our atmosphere here.

So the idea is to make a balloon that is large enough to have people inside of it, because they can breath the lifting gas keeping the balloon afloat. The catch is, you aren't above ALL of the atmosphere and there's still a lot of caustic things that the balloon would have to account for, otherwise it'll slowly leak. We don't have a material that would withstand some of the things in the upper atmosphere of Venus. So the guy would literally have to invent a material that would be able to withstand the conditions or be self healing enough to deal with the conditions. Both are highly unlikely, not impossible but I sure as shit wouldn't trust him on being the inventor of such.

So yes, the surface is inhospitable. But floating a colony above the clouds is doable and something that's been investigated. At the 50km altitude of Venus, there's still enough atmosphere to provide protection from harmful sunlight. The atmosphere at 50km is such that a balloon at 1.03 atm pressure would not have explosive decompression in the event of a rip, providing folks enough time to get emergency O₂ and ideally fix the tear. So basically, if a tear in the balloon did happen, it would be a light breeze and not a sudden POP as the oxygen escaped. So if the balloon is really, really big, it could take hours before the CO₂ slowly seeping in offset enough O₂ to start dropping your colony into the clouds of acid. And at 50km altitude, gravity there would be about 0.9g. Additionally, Venus is much closer to Earth than Mars, but since it's closer to the sun, it's actually a bit harder to get to.

So right around 50km above Venus is pretty much the most Earth like we've discovered in the Solar System so far. There's just all this dizzying complexity to having a floating colony on Venus. And we don't have anywhere near the materials or support infrastructure to really support anyone going to Venus, especially untrained people. But yeah you can see some of the renders NASA has done for a Venus colony. Here's a page I found with one of the renders they've pitched.

Carighan,
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What do we do about the frankly insane wind speeds?

MartianSands,

Just ignore them, I suspect. If you’re already in a giant blimp, then what’s the harm in letting the wind carry you wherever it wants to go?

XTL,

Maybe the wind changes direction fast?

fidodo,

Well it’s gone from the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard to the second dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, so I guess that’s an improvement

PsychedSy,

No worries. There are some carbon fiber types that are pretty chemically resistant. I’ll start saving scraps at work for him.

Something_Complex,

That is truly stupid, failing to account for, checks list: Radiation, solar reach, mental health, supply convoys that take years, and that’s just at a surface level…

Wow ofc it would work…

luthis,

Ok so we have established it’s possible, now why would we ever want to do it?

Black_Gulaman,
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Well they might as well incinerate their clients, this guy refuses to be one upped by his colleague, I mean what’s his option, the other guy diluted his clients at the bottom of the ocean, so this one must go the opposite way, in space, and with fire.

over_clox,

Never underestimate human ignorance. Even if they make an idiot proof system, they’ll just turn around and make a better idiot.

feedum_sneedson, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

I respect the attempt to capitalise on a tragedy. Or possibly I’m disgusted by it. Either way.

Kolanaki, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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“It’s not gonna implode, is it?”

“Haha, of course not!”

Whew

“It’s space so it’ll explode!

perviouslyiner,

“How many atmospheres can this thing withstand?”

joranvar,

The one. On the outside. And it is mandatory as well.

Somsphet,

“Well it’s a spaceship, so anywhere between zero and 1.”

qyron, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

Isn’t that the planet that is hotter than the planet that sits closer to the sun, has incredibly high atmospheric pressure and something that is not water rains from the skies?

Seems like a paradise, if we’re considering using a nearby planet as a toxic waste dump.

tsuica,
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Sulfuric acid rains, yes. How fun!

JohnDClay,

If you float high enough, you can get 1atm of pressure and not too much heat. You’d be above the nasty weather. You’d only need a very minimal space suit and breathing apparatus as well. But ocean gate is literally the last company I’d trust with that.

dan1101, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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Why don’t they do a floating colony on Earth first as a test?

RozhkiNozhki,
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They did, it just didn’t float.

Coreidan, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

Cool let’s start with all of their friends and family.

pozbo, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050
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As we disembark the planet please let oligarchs and billionaires go first. They took all the risk to achieve such great things. And if you look deep down (12,500’) you will see this is the way it has to be.

Faresh,

That reminds me of that scene in the Douglas Adam’s Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, where

spoilerthe Golgafrinchans invent an incoming world-ending tragedy, in an excuse to send into space all people with useless/supefluous jobs (bureaucrats, hairdressers, telephone cleaners, etc.) to a new planet, saying that the remaining parts of society will come after.

CeruleanRuin,
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One must not forget that after including people like telephone sanitizers under what they deemed superfluous, the Golgafrinchans all died out from a plague contracted from a dirty telephone.

Faresh, in OceanGate co-founder wants to send 1,000 people to a floating colony on Venus by 2050

OcanGate must be controlled by anarchist lizard people, posing themselves as being millionaires, with a secret plan to kill all of earth’s rich people.

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