I started at BeeHaw because they have a lot of cool communities. I didn’t want to write an essay (I’m exaggerating …a little) to sign up for an account so I ended up on sh.itjust.works.
Haha same. I started at beehaw but am having a hard time manually adding communities that I want to keep in that feed since they aren’t onfederated instances. So I moved to sh.ithust.works and reddthat.
I’ll probably keep beehaw, I like a lot of what it has to offer and it’s cool for it to be a specific corner for me. But one of the others will probably become my default home
How are they abusing defederation? They just want to protect their community from bad actors until Lemmy developers create better mod tools. Plus it is within their right to defederate, that’s the beauty of federation.
I used to be on Beehaw a lot, I have never seen a single troll or hate speech coming from lemmy.world. Being too extreme in protecting your users has the opposite of the desired effect
I feel the same. Started off on Beehaw and recently encountered someone just going off in several comments about how horrible men are and the mods/admins let it slide. Seemed hypocritical to me and haven’t seen anything like that here.
So between that, all of the defederation and not allowing downvotes I’m out. Lemmy.world is my main instance.
I like the lack of downvotes, most people use downvotes so silence people. If there’s hate speech or things I think are misinformation the user should be reported or blocked.
That’s fair. I think it can easily lead to piling on at times and is mostly used as a disagree button when it should be for whether there was contribution to the discussion. Different strokes for different folks and all that, just personally prefer it.
When I had to choose I thought .world means, it‘s the central, most important place to be. Didn‘t know what the other abbreviations meant. Didn‘t care.
ml is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Mali. Introduced 29 September 1993 Intended use Entities connected with Mali Actual use Sees some use in Mali and for some websites about machine learning. Use is relatively rare elsewhere. Registration restrictions Yes, for free domains only
Both of those instances tend to be fairly censorship heavy, so people who just want to have a chat will be less interested in joining an instance that’s going to shut down a conversation that they’re enjoying.
Before all this stuff with reddit went down, most of the instances on the threadiverse we’re fairly censorship heavy, and so people didn’t really bother coming over from the main fediverse. With the establishment of new and more liberal instances and the infusion of new users, the potential of Lemmy has really been unleashed.
Lemmy.ml is run by tankies who brook no criticism of Russia for its conduct of the war in Ukraine. I was on there, saw posts about the war being deleted and users who raise even pointed criticism at the mods/admins for their Russophilia get banned.
To the developers’ credit, it’s not like they actively promote their own views on the war and Russia openly. But they don’t want others to discuss the war on their instance and have moderated such discussions with a heavy hand.
Yeah, the fact that lemmy.world and many other instances exist with content that the devs might not like is proof that they wrote something where their own personal views don’t affect the independence of each instance to run the way it wants.
The lemmy devs have said they dont bring politics into their dev work and are happy to work with anyone.
Lemmy is also an open source application that can be forked at anytime.
It’s also using the activity pub protocol which means that any application can interact with the entire fediverse.
You can use kbin if you are still uncomfortable with lemmy then you can sign up to a kbin instance and view all the content you would view from a lemmy instance.
Yeah I’m ok with it for now, and will chalk it up as some guys being young and idealistic with strange idiosyncratic or edgy views they might grow out of.
I’ve seen their statements trying to walk it back and they seem generally very well intentioned, I give it the benefit of doubt for now.
This is really seeming to look like “dev team was unclear that they didn’t want politics on their server. They removed comments critical of Russia. Group of people ran with this as evidence they are pro-Russia/Anti-Ukraine. dev team tried to clarify their policies but it’s too late and the PR Shitstorm already happened”.
Tough spot to be in as a “startup” FOSS platform but could totally infer that’s how it is playing out.
It’s the whole point of the Fediverse. If their absurd opinions don’t appeal to you, you can block them or defederate their instance and not have them affect you (or your instance if you’re an admin).
Yeah such posts are banned but if I recall, there was no explicit rule against them until a mod came out and said such posts were against the rules. To the best of my recollection, anyways.
Exactly this. I tried numerous times on lemmy.ml and never got an email back for the verification, so I just gave up. World is the next logical choice. Since beehaw is already defederating, if you're coming to the fediverse, joining an instance that's already isolating itself, even if it has good reasons, doesn't seem appealing. So lemmy.world it is. Tho here I am using my kbin mostly because then I have kbin, mastodon, and Lemmy integration all in one.
I think most of it has to do with that lemmy.world has better hardware than other instances. The admin Rudd has a lot of experience running federated services as well. So it may be his first rodeo lemmy-wise but not hosting a federated service with a large user-base.
So when a lot of smaller instances started getting overwhelmed and stopping signups, lemmy.world was going strong without the performance issues that other instances might see.
That along with the fact that NSFW content is allowed makes lemmy.world a good alternative for Reddit refugees looking for something stable with a similar set of rules as well.
I myself joined lemmy.ml at first, then beehaw.org when lemmy.ml asked everyone to spread out, and finally found home on lemmy.world because I didn’t really like how downvotes are disabled on beehaw. Not to mention the defederation that beehaw has done recently. Although I can understand and appreciate why they’ve done that.
I’ve signed up for a bunch of them and still haven’t decided where I want to make my main. I know that annoys some people but I love it because it means I get to have a choice! I think I’ll have a Lemmy world account since they’re big, buti also want to find a good smaller community to have slower more meaningful conversations. I hope the Lemmy protocol adds support for account linking some day.
I’ve signed up for a bunch of them and still haven’t decided where I want to make my main.
Same story for me, although I keep coming back to Lemmy.world in the first instance, at least for the Lemmy instances (also explored kbin, tildes and squabbles). Mixed feelings about Lemmy.ml as I think there’s virtue being on the instance the devs run as it seems unlikely to go away, although there has been the talks around political views. From the political side, I do hang out more often than not in tech spaces though so I doubt it’d actually impact anything I’d want to engage in discussion about.
Also have an account with Beehaw which was my first but silly as it may seem, the name of that one puts me off a bit. “Lemmy.world” sounds like something I can more easily communicate to a friend verbally, for whatever that is worth.
I’ve moved once so far, but it wasn’t as straightforward forward as I’d hoped. Do you know of a simple way to migrate (export/import) communities and settings across instances?
Rule of the defaults. Most people use whatever the default is. That’s why there is always a push to he the default thing. Microsoft pushes edge on their stuff, Google pushes chrome, apps pushes safari, etc.
That’s also why Google pays Apple $20 billion annually to be Safari’s default search engine. Most people can’t be bothered to change their defaults/don’t want to after having it as their default for so long.
This is the correct answer. The devs have been saying this for years but new users often weren’t aware of this and saw it as the default instance. It’s good to see that’s changed.
I can only speak for myself, but as a complete newbie who wanted to create an account and figure out how lemmy works, I honestly thought lemmy.world is the main site and everything else is just smaller niche communities.
There was an ELI5 post that clarified how it all works, but that was after I created my account.
Yea I made like 4 accounts with .world being the last, because I thought I needed an account for every instance. I’m now learning I don’t need to do that.
I chalk it up to the name. Your name is your central piece of branding, and can be used to your advantage. To me, when I wanted to join what I thought would probably be the largest lemmy instance, I didn’t look at the stats or rules. I just looked at the names of all the not-tiny ones. This one clearly signified to me that the owner intends to become a very large Instance.
To most people, it will simply sound cool and be very easy to remember. Both of those are very important points.
Look at the automotive industry. Performance is desirable in a vehicle, certainly, but according to the market, does it seem more desirable than looking cool and having enough cup holders?
I can only speak for myself, but as a complete newbie who wanted to create an account and figure out how lemmy works, I honestly thought lemmy.world is the main site and everything else is just smaller niche communities.
There was an ELI5 post that clarified how it all works, but that was after I created my account.
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