june,

I joined because it was mentioned on /r/piracy. Seems everyone I hear says something similar.

I’d say it has better growth because it got better advertising. I have no idea if it’s the ‘best’ instance.

Most things like this don’t happen because the thing growing is the best, it becomes the best because people come to it and it gets resourced.

needtoknowbasisonly,

I'd say the main difference is Lemmy has been around for 4 years and Kbin is only a few weeks old.

SPOOSER,

I really feel like it doesn’t matter what you use as long as it’s part of the Fediverse. If whatever you’ve chosen is federated we all benefit. I feel that ever since Kbin federated there’s way more content even on Lemmy. I’m just glad that we can all see and interact with one another.

Frostwolf,
@Frostwolf@lemmy.world avatar

That’s true. Though the fear of defederation (and in turn isolation) is always there. I wish they make it so that the users, not the admin chooses which instance to defederate. But maybe this is too tedious to implement.

SPOOSER,

If your instance defederates from an instance, or you are defederated from an instance you enjoy, you can always move to a new account. Unlike Reddit, you don’t have Karma to link you to your account so you can just move over to a different instance (although subscribing to all of your favorite communities again is a pain in the ass)

Frostwolf,
@Frostwolf@lemmy.world avatar

I guess that is a solution. But I agree creating a new account means starting over, looking for communities once again and maybe your post history, plus the hassle of having to manage two separate accounts. I guess the issue of fragmentation in the fediverse needs to be addressed too as it matures.

SPOOSER,

I agree wholeheartedly that fragmentation needs to be addressed.

Rhaedas,
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

My experience from the "early days" right when the Reddit blackouts were planned and people were looking for a new home, Lemmy was the main name being dropped. Plus when you went to the general Fediverse hub, Lemmy showed up at the top, while I just happened to read someone mention Kbin being a better interface and I had to search around for it.

If you decide to make Kbin a home (you don't have to have just one), stop by the KbinStyles magazine. I think this is where Kbin is showing its true power, customizing. I haven't really seen much of the same possibilities mentioned for Lemmy (yet). Both softwares are very early on, so there's lot of potential for either.

NotAPenguin,

kbin as about the same amount of active users as Lemmy

minnieo,
@minnieo@kbin.social avatar

i thought lemmy had like 250k+ (?) in total and then kbin.social has like 40-45k

NotAPenguin,

Lemmy has a shit ton of inactive bot accounts, actually active users is about even: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse

stankmut, (edited )

I’m not sure if that’s true. Lemmy only calculates active users as people who have posted or commented a time frame. The graphs that I’m seeing for kbin’s active user count matches their total user count.

BananaTrifleViolin,

Lack of awareness of Kbin I think. Also the monthly average users are the same, but lots of communities were created on lemmy instances.

Lemmy is older and I think when people thought a million people had signed up they thought that was the place to be. But it was all bits and the two are similar in terms of users, although most Kbin users are on Kbin.social at the moment.

I've tried both and I prefer Kbin. I like the interface, I like the mobile PWA app, it just feels more modern and polished compared to lemmy. But it's just a preference thing they're largely the same.

AnonTwo,

Lemmy was mainly ready for it.

Kbin's cloudflare on top of the stability issues made it unusable for the first few weeks. Tildes wasn't an option.

NightOwl,

For me it was that it was privacyguides making their own lemmy instance that led to me opting for it as my first introduction to the fediverse. Other than that other subs like piracy set up their own instances and now Android. So I wonder if getting a Lemmy instance set up is easier than Kbin?

andrewta,

For me I heard more about lemmy on Reddit and Apollo was in its final days. So I gave it a try

TurboDiesel,
@TurboDiesel@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, same here. A couple of subs I followed mentioned Lemmy explicitly so I gave it a look. Lemmy.world seemed the most active at the time so I joined here.

Ath47,

Same. The fact that Lemmy has several iOS apps also sealed the deal, as I do almost all my browsing on mobile. I made an account on KBin at the same time, and an eagerly watching both to see how they develop, but Lemmy just has more to offer right now.

Jaysyn,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

Tildes felt like an unpolished pre-alpha to me.

kbity,
@kbity@kbin.social avatar

It got mentioned a lot on /r/RedditAlternatiives and since its API is already up and running, there are a whole bunch of apps for it. With mobile apps being the thing that started the whole Reddit disaster, it makes sense that Lemmy would grow quicker than kbin which doesn't have mobile apps yet.

MrMusAddict,

For me, it was the top google result for “Reddit Alternative”. There was a github post explaining the basics of Lemmy and essentially said if I wasn’t sure where to sign up, just head over to lemmy.world.

Now that I’m here I can safely say the interface feels like an improved old.reddit.com and am quite pleased.

Very_Bad_Janet,

I'm reading this from Kbin.social. I subscribe to Kbin magazines and Lemmy communities, so I don't really see a difference between the two.

I'm also on Tildes and really enjoy it for longer, nuanced, contemplative posts and comments. And I'm on Squabbles when I feel like memes and quips.

Un short, I think ex Redditors are trying out more than one platform. We're sampling all over the place.

Nollij,

Tildes is just too small. The obvious explanation for growth is all of the Fledditors (Rexit? I like Lemmygrants, but that really only covers people who came to Lemmy) looking for an alternative. People wanted a drop-in replacement for what they already had. Tildes didn’t even have enough of a seed in their biggest subs, let alone their (very few) niche groups. Same for Raddle, Squabbles, etc. The only subs that made a significant migration to those are the ones that packed up, locked the doors, and left a forwarding address to anyone left - Similar to what r/piracy did, except that went to Lemmy (complete with instructions to ignore the federation questions)

As for Kbin, I think the bigger factor is coverage. As soon as anyone started mentioning people leaving for greener pastures, Lemmy was always the first thing mentioned. Kbin was always a second-place alternative, along with a few others. Since Kbin has the same confusion about federation as Lemmy, it didn’t pick up a lot of people that bailed on the first choice.

Not that it matters much anymore, since Kbin is well-federated with Lemmy

Nemo,

I like “fledditors”, but “reddfugees” is also good.

becool,

beeners f/ kbin

im a beener, ur a beener. we're all beeners.

Nemo,

I personally wouldn’t have gone with something that sounds so similar to a common ethnic slur, y’know?

Oka,

Tildes also doesn’t allow memes and only accepts “quality content”, meaning they can delete your comments and threads if someone (idk who) thinks they aren’t good enough. This will cause everyone on tildes to sound like the same person.

Frostwolf,
@Frostwolf@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for the explanation. :) that does gives a clearer picture.

So it seems that lemmy just happens to be the most ready when the mass migration happened.

revampeduser,
@revampeduser@kbin.social avatar

We are united in the fediverse 💪

serenastra,

It’s down to the apps available from my point of view. Using wefwef and enjoying the fresh content through a very Apollo-like interface.

I am also a complete noob when it comes to the fediverse and Lemmy just seemed more accessible.

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