It got mentioned a lot on /r/RedditAlternatiives and since its API is already up and running, there are a whole bunch of apps for it. With mobile apps being the thing that started the whole Reddit disaster, it makes sense that Lemmy would grow quicker than kbin which doesn't have mobile apps yet.
Lack of awareness of Kbin I think. Also the monthly average users are the same, but lots of communities were created on lemmy instances.
Lemmy is older and I think when people thought a million people had signed up they thought that was the place to be. But it was all bits and the two are similar in terms of users, although most Kbin users are on Kbin.social at the moment.
I've tried both and I prefer Kbin. I like the interface, I like the mobile PWA app, it just feels more modern and polished compared to lemmy. But it's just a preference thing they're largely the same.
Do we know if Kbin counts active users the same way that Lemmy does? Lemmy only counts users have made comments or posts recently as being active, people who only vote are ignored.
That math just doesn’t work out. Lemmy.world has ~25% of its total user base commenting and posting, which is really high compared to established social media platforms. Kbin has 62,195 total users and 61,632 active users. There’s just no way that kbin has 99% of its user base commenting and posting.
For me, it was the top google result for “Reddit Alternative”. There was a github post explaining the basics of Lemmy and essentially said if I wasn’t sure where to sign up, just head over to lemmy.world.
Now that I’m here I can safely say the interface feels like an improved old.reddit.com and am quite pleased.
I’m on both (repeatedly, multiple servers and accounts) but even with Memmy I find myself gravitating towards Kbin and once Artemis is out I’ll probably stay there. Beehaw has the best interaction on its local communities, but Kbin is just a better feed for me mostly. No brand or server loyalty for me, I will continue using all until one seems to address all my wants.
Hmmm I guess this is the beauty if the fediverse, we can always jump to another ship within the federation. I just wish they’d find ways to connect one username for everything.
Yeah... it is a little overwhelming when just dipping your toes. In the initial push to get off of reddit I ended up with a lot of accounts... Beehaw, sh.itjust.works, fedia.io, kbin.social, readit.buzz, infosec.exchange, infosec.town, defcon.social, tildes, squabbles, etc. At some point you just have to use something.
If I had to guess what I'll be doing in the future, I'd say it will resemble reddit where I had multiple accounts for different purposes but not different platforms, just different content filters and topics. Eventually there will be at least one app that works with both Lemmy and Kbin accounts and make it all more or less seemless and arbitrary.
Right now I'm primarily using Kbin and Beehaw, I don't know which account will eventually be more important to me. I'm also using Ice Cubes for Mastodon with a couple different Mastodon accounts. What would push me all-in on a kbin instance would be if I federation between Lemmy instances and mastodon instances reached a level of functioning that didn't feel like I was missing anything. I'd rather not have a million different apps and accounts just to see different versions of the same shit.
I haven't heard about Artemis - is that an app in development for Kbin? That would be pretty cool if so (although the PWA has done a pretty solid job so far)
Yeah, Artemis is an app for Kbin that is in a very limited beta right now (I'm not in it) - *edit got the link wrong the first time **and the second time. Artemis
My experience from the "early days" right when the Reddit blackouts were planned and people were looking for a new home, Lemmy was the main name being dropped. Plus when you went to the general Fediverse hub, Lemmy showed up at the top, while I just happened to read someone mention Kbin being a better interface and I had to search around for it.
If you decide to make Kbin a home (you don't have to have just one), stop by the KbinStyles magazine. I think this is where Kbin is showing its true power, customizing. I haven't really seen much of the same possibilities mentioned for Lemmy (yet). Both softwares are very early on, so there's lot of potential for either.
For me it was that it was privacyguides making their own lemmy instance that led to me opting for it as my first introduction to the fediverse. Other than that other subs like piracy set up their own instances and now Android. So I wonder if getting a Lemmy instance set up is easier than Kbin?
I’m not sure if that’s true. Lemmy only calculates active users as people who have posted or commented a time frame. The graphs that I’m seeing for kbin’s active user count matches their total user count.
I went to lemmy first, noticed federation wasnt working, then went to kbin, and federation still isnt working. So far I havent seen any entrance to the fediverse that can actually see the fediverse.
sure, you can see all the most popular posts and communities. But say you wanted to check out a smaller community, say, the splatoon one here on lemmy.world. You wont see all of the posts there from kbin. How about animemes from lemmy.ml? The latest post you can see from kbin is a week old, yet it's getting posts everyday. Personally I wanna see some posts from rule34 on lemmynsfw, but again no.
And this is a problem not unique to kbin, I have not found any entrance to the fediverse that doesnt have this problem.
yeah, you can see some amount of posts from other instances on the fediverse. But not all of them, especially not smaller communities that really need the visibility.
Well, depending. Kbin.social recently cut federation temporarily with some instances as a way to work through our backlog. I kind of thought that was up and running again, especially since lemmy.world was listed and I can definitely see that, but I question if this is why beehaw refuses to load and I haven't seen anything from them in a week.
Sh.itjust.works is also listed there, but I have this hunch that they may also fall prey to the same bug in lemmy's default reference nginx config that initially stopped kbin users from accessing the android community when they moved.
Sopuli.xyz is just as inaccessible, and it's upsetting watching it wear on because I'm interested in communities in both that either won't federate anything I do or that I can't even find in order to sub to. This bug is what bothers me the most, that it's in the default settings is unacceptable, and it makes kbin appear to have much larger issues with federation than it actually does.
Lemmy.ml apparently removed the block only to put it back, which I was not aware of and now I KNOW they're dickbags. I have to actively filter which communities I can actually participate in instead of only appearing to, and they can just defederate out loud if they're that bothered. It's not like they haven't taken criticism for their actions before, I'm sure they'll live.
Has Lemmy passed kbin? Last I heard they were growing pretty evenly if you compare the biggest individual instances at least. Maybe creating your own instances is simpler with Lemmy?
Not sure as to the actual statistics. But for me, lemmy feels more active than kbin. Though that in itself is subjective. I do like the interface of kbin for sure. But lemmy feels more active so I’m conflicted. Will explore more communities to see if this view holds true though.
I finally just blocked that community, since it was so spammy. That and 196. Nothing against either community. I just didn't want other stuff becoming buried under them. Now I'm seeing a lot more variety in overall posts.
When I was browsing options, Tildes didn't even allow sign-ups. I tried multiple days and eventually said fuck it and checked other options, settling on kbin.
Tildes was always invite only. Granted it is (or was at the time, maybe they slowed down with the influx) really easy to get your hands on one by just asking on r/tildes (or email).
Hell, the site being readable by the general public is a relatively recent introduction compared to it's history.
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