How do I get informed on Joe Rogan without watching his videos.

I’m a bit concerned about how much my husband has been watching his videos, but he’s a hard man to argue with. I want to understand what it is Joe Rogan is saying, but I don’t want to give the man my viewership. How/where do I get the info I can use to debate my husband?

elouboub,
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Watch it with him and discuss the video afterwards. No matter how many people sit in front of a screen, it counts as one view.

OceanSoap,

This. Watching them yourself is really the only way to go. Anyone else you watch to get info on him is highly likely to be either biased towards or against him and will be giving you incorrect information.

mikeboltonshair,

Don’t kid yourself, you “giving” him a few views isn’t gonna make any difference, taking a principled stance on it is like peeing in the ocean.

Just watch a few of his videos or listen to some of his podcasts, instead of letting other people give your their viewpoint on him just get your own viewpoint, do it without any bias either… pick an episode that you are interested in pick something you don’t agree with and pick something that could go either way. You might agree with some stuff and not other things but at least you determined that for yourself

I used to listen to his podcast but lost interest plus I’d only listen to the stuff I had any interest in, science and technology stuff. He had some odd views/stuff I didn’t agree with but that’s living in reality you aren’t always gonna agree with people.

1984,
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I’m sorry, but you are going to let someone else interpret what Rogan is saying for you, so you don’t have to watch his videos?

All you are doing is copying that person’s opinion about Rogan if you do that.

Watch the videos. Be an adult. Think for yourself.

NormandyEssex,

You can just watch a little bit of him, it wont hurt you that much to give him viewership and will help you understand what your husband is watching better. You can also find some video clips or compilations on YouTube.

RightHandOfIkaros,

Be careful of clips and compilations though, because those are easy to miss the context of a conversation with.

Jackthelad,

What’s there to be concerned about?

I don’t watch/listen to Joe Rogan, but it’s not like your husband is watching some Nazi propaganda.

morphballganon,

Bad take. There are literal nazis today who take their talking points from JR.

bane_killgrind,
FoundTheVegan, (edited )
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I think you need to take a few steps back and really think about what you are asking. If your husband is a fan and regular listener to a source you are so adamant against, that even giving him a view is a concern, then do you and your husband have the same values?

I am so sorry to say this but your post is just littered with red flags. Sis, he isn't hard to argue with, the man just doesn't care what you think. If he did why isn't this a discussion and not an argument where he shuts you/your concerns down? I would say that making yourself informed about the specifics of Joe Rogan matters more than his view count going up by 1. But frankly, you probably aren't going to like anything you hear (Because Rogan is a pig who washes conspiracies/bigotry as "just debate lol"). But since your husband knows you won't approve, that is why he is brushing you off.

This sounds like a really rough position to be in. I've been there with some of my past relationships so I am sending you all the warmth and strength I can muster! Big hugs!

alokir,

So many assumptions based on so little information.

Deestan,

He’s big enough that a lot of people tend to make videos explaining what he is wrong about and how. Searching YT for “Joe Rogan is wrong” or similar and picking some large looking channels from the list tends to give useful results.

remotelove,

That is the path I would take. All JR does, and all people like him do, is provide people with a encyclopedia of logical fallacies to use during arguments.

An “argument” with these kinds of people usually just drives you into a state of confusion trying to debunk lists of interconnected “facts” they are spewing out. Not only does it put that person in a place to “win an argument by default”, they are generally masters at shifting the burden of proof on to you.

Two approaches I take are: Recognize what a person is about to spout off and counter each “fact” they come up with, immediately. Or, you ignore that person and walk off.

rising_tony,

Hey, pure coincidence , Johnny Harris from youtube recently put out an informative video on Joe a month ago:
https://youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?si=CPwiMtAEdhaWA3Jj

His video is nuanced and informative, but I cannot say it is unbiased and it leaves with a very centrist conclusion, but this might be the best for someone unfamiliar with Joe.

If I may add my own take on him, his show should be considered purely entertainment, and any semblance to actual discourse or debate is purely coincidental and done for entertainment. At best, it should encourage people to start forming their own ideas and opinions (without actually providing reliable resources where to start proper, sadly), and at worst it validates the unfounded opinions and hypotheses of those who believe their internet look-up and echo chamber chatter is equally reputable as peer-reviewed, documented, proper research.

And lastly to alleviate any concerns you have, people who watch Joe simply yearn to be more knowledgeable, even if his show isnt a good chanel for it. Your partner may be able to understand your concerns with a good discussion and communication, so I wish you the best in talking to them and a prosperous outcome. Cheers!

Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

Of all the right wing assclowns, rogan is the one that people least need to “keep up with”. He doesn’t create conspiracies or thought. He just regurgitates what others say.

But, more importantly: What do you expect to come out of this? if you aren’t comfortable speaking to your husband about what he is watching, what will you do once you find out?

BolexForSoup, (edited )
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I think we should refrain from over-extrapolating about their relationship based on one - admittedly concerning - short paragraph.

I can understand wanting to discuss it with him from an informed stance. It makes it easier to be heard when you can demonstrate a little working knowledge.

Edit: SHOULD not shouldn’t

rising_tony,

I agree, and if I may add to your comment, it is very unlikely their conversation will go anywhere if the OP were to approach their spouse with the same tone and attitude as the person you replied to. That comment is neither informative or welcomes communication. The OP wants to be informed, even if their opinion is the same as the comment they will get nowhere talking to an avid Rogan listener with that, just two loudmouths yelling at each other.

BolexForSoup,
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Exactly. This is her husband, after all. A good marriage is all about communication. All she’s trying to do is achieve communication and, hopefully, understanding/compromise.

sadreality,

Well at least nobody suggested divorce yet!

Either way... I am more concerned about how OP thinks she has some sort of right to dictate her husband's podcast viewing BC she doesn't approve of podcast BC teevee told her Rogan is "bad"

This is some fucking degeneracy, I wonder her husband would react to being treated like that

This is not how a partner behaves, you got a lot it to learn OP

EdanGrey,

At what point have I dictated his viewing? I’m guessing you’re not in a relationship, because it’s clear you are actually the one with a lot to learn.

sadreality,

Good luck with your marriage, dear ;)

morphballganon,

The right to choose your entertainment is superseded by the obligation to eliminate fascism.

ZyQo,
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It’s impossible to say. What does he say regarding what? And what do you consider is worth debating over. It’s usually not Joe’s opinions per se but the guests.

His podcast literally covers everything you can think of. Indigenous people, hunting, technology, different diets, archeology, random chatting with comics, or otherwise interesting people (according to him).

Usually the guests are experts in some field and tell their opinions on whatever matter they have a degree in or they just talk random nonsense to make dialog that some might find interesting.

Hegar,

Usually the guests are experts

No they're not. Usually they're two-bit grifters spouting nonsense they obviously know nothing about, in order to sell some BS. Like how spam emails use bad grammar on purpose to select for the gullible.

ZyQo,
@ZyQo@lemmy.world avatar

Sure they are, depending on the subject of course. Someone with a phd in mathematical physics from Harvard talking about physics would be considered an expert in the subject no?

PapaStevesy,

Just watch Tim Heidecker’s parody episode from his show Office Hours, it’s quite accurate.

AlteredStateBlob,

Excuse me, why is this an 12 hour video?

massive_bereavement,
@massive_bereavement@kbin.social avatar

It's free real estate.

PapaStevesy,

Lol, that’s just one more Rogan jab. It’s only 90 minutes I think, then looped over and over.

p5f20w18k,
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Johnny Harris did a pretty good video on him recently

FeelzGoodMan420,

A divorce would probably be less painful than acrually watching Joe Rogan videos.

can,

Some of the videos on this channel may give you some insights.

Like this one about how he can dish it out but can’t take it.

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