To be clear - they’ve been doing this for years, but you used to have to take your car into a dealership for THEM to apply a patch, this is actually MUCH EASIER.
Thank god I will never be able to justify paying more than 8k on any car I will ever own in my life, you rich bitches can keep your fancy 50k 30 year morgage at 18% interest ass smart cars that need 2k in maintenance the second it leaves the dealers lot. I hate being dinged to death to wear a seatbelt and consider it harassment and an invasion of my agency, let alone this BS lol
But… you should really wear a seatbelt. Actually, haven’t cars been giving users seatbelt alarms for like… over 30 years now? It’s a strange hill to die on, friend.
Oh absolutely I buckle up pretty much every time. But if I want to take the car 2 minutes down the road and I deem it an acceptable level of risk to not bother with the belt, I shouldn’t be harassed to do so by my own machine. You boss around your tools, not the other way around. A little light on the dash should be enough, its not like I don’t know what im doing. Also our countries regulations on that may be different most cars from the early to mid 2000s here don’t ding you to death. If it indangers other peoples health and safety sure but me not wearing a seatbelt isn’t hurting anyone but potentially myself, if I end up crashing through the windshield and splattering on the asphalt thats the consequences of my own very stupid) decicion.
Oh man, my wife bought a 2023 Rogue, and the seatbelt notification goes off for all three back seats, even if no one is back there! And you can’t turn it off! The dealership recommended just buckling all the back seats by default. It is, by a pretty wide margin, the most irritating thing about that machine. I understand the frustration. I guess I’m more diligent about the front seat buckles, because I’ve never even seen the front seat buckle light.
Is your point that you’re more likely to experience security vulnerabilities when using FOSS? Cause past a certain point of development that’s not generally the case.
Perhaps they simply mean they don’t want it internet connected at all. If it needs updates, have it be a device, USB or OBD or something, that would be the only vector for updates/direct OS control. Sure, allow internet for some features maybe, but isolate updates and the anything serious from remote tampering.
I’m from an era where jailbreaking and installing whatever you’d like on a device was the wild west, and have seen nasty stuff accidentally sideloaded. Giving people the option to infect their cars with ransomware could get people killed, so not opening that can of worms isn’t the worst idea necessarily. That said, FOSS stuff is usually fine, but I highly doubt it would be a fully encompassed ecosystem that you’d be installing. It’ll have add-ons, other smaller projects. Tweaks. That’s where you’ll get into trouble.
People keep trying to buy my 2002 Tacoma, I get notes on my windshield constantly. Often offers for like 80% of what I originally paid for it. It’s insane for a 20 year old car with 300k miles on it.
Sometimes you can just tell something sucks without even using it… All you need to know comes from looking at the fonts and button designs. What car is this?
sorry to say this get yourself a classic car benefits : low tax, or none, low insurance, you can have good times fixing the car, it is not losing money every day, it makes money, carbon pollution on a car from 66, cars made with passion negatives, getting parts is becoming easy with 3D printing, engines are easy to fix, a bit more expensive to buy
I’m kind of surprised that car technology is so awful. How the fuck am I paying $35k for a car and they’re still like “lets run the UI off a potato via the least responsive touch screen possible”? At some point I’d rather they just gave up on providing a UX themselves and just ran everything through Android Auto.
I don’t mind having a UI for things like navigation or android auto. What gets me is why do things like climate control need to be buried in a UI? If my windscreen starts to steam up mid-jourmey, the last thing I need is to take my attention off the road to change the climate settings in the UI where dials and buttons will do the job much faster without needing to take my attention off the road.
Yes! I hate having everything in the UI. I’d much prefer a physical control set for A/C and even basic volume control at least.
You can’t sense a flat touch screen, but we are really good at sensing knobs and switches. It’s much safer for the driver to feel for a control rather than look at it.
My 09 VW CC has knobs for bass, treble, and mid, in addition to volume. Seat heaters, AC, everything is tactile and I can operate anything without looking.
I know it’s manufacturers wanting to save money, but it’s so annoying that we’re going backwards. Touchscreen is a form of input. Just because it’s higher tech doesn’t mean it should replace tactile inputs in all applications ffs.
If my windscreen starts to steam up mid-jourmey, the last thing I need is to take my attention off the road to change the climate settings in the UI where dials and buttons will do the job much faster without needing to take my attention off the road.
This is why ill never get rid of my 2009 Tacoma. Three knob AC controls are the pinnacle of UI engineering. One knob for fan speed, one for temp and the third for vent/airflow selection. The backlight on one of my knobs has burned out at this point, but i dont need it…Can adjust the AC without taking my eyes off the road.
When it was ubiquitous, this meant i could do this in any car. Borrowed my inlaws FORD F-150 once, had to pull over to figure out how to turn off the goddam heat. It had BOTH a touchscreen and series of dash buttons but there were so many it was hard to figure out what did each thing while driving. I also had to update their dang infotainment, it wouldnt work on some random USB device, i had to go get a USB-A 3.0 device to get it to work at all and even then it was idling in my driveway for an hour and a half. Even tried just doing it via WiFi…nope
Just FYI, it might be pretty easy to replace the back lights. You can even get LED ones. Word of warning though, if the bulbs are built such that the polarity can be reversed, they’ll only work in one orientation. This is due to the nature of how LEDs work. I had to redo mine because I didn’t win all 3 coin flips when I installed them
Yeah it’s not too bad. Just the dash kit is fairly old and held together by those plastic clip. I always break those things. It’s a juice isn’t worth the squeeze honestly. I actually upgraded my radio a while back to a wireless CarPlay/android auto and mean to ask them to swap em. But forgot.
Yeah, my 2017 KIA has a touch screen for controlling navigation, radio, android auto etc. but climate control is controlled with buttons and dials like you described. It’s modern enough to the point it feels safer than an older vehicle might, but I don’t think I want a vehicle more modern than this.
the issue stems from the requirements of automotive parts to be based around longevity vs precision. I would like to believe they are stunting performance parts for more robust and lasting hardware but we all know that isn’t true and any money that should be spent on automotive grade electronics is likely lining someones stock portfolio
Apple Iphone? last about 2 years if its used EVERYDAY , usually. Car Touch Screen needs to live for 5-10years so you don’t drive the car through the dealership windows killing the salesman that tricked you. they hope.
Oh man, i’ve never been able to get over the: “i really want to play a game now that i have 30 minutes to spare and some energy left” ah fuck, 60gb update…fine i’m off to bed then.
Can’t imagine what i would do if a car update would come with the worst possible timing like having to take your partner to the hospital for an emergency.
My Charger’s Irratainment system decided to update during traffic in Dallas rush hour (I don’t live there) and it took my navigation with me until I could regoogle my phone enough to use that.
This is so backwards from my ID.3. When I get an OTA update, we get a message and have to deliberately update it, but it wont start until we’re out of the car and it’s locked.
Kinda true but I’m in love with my parents Dacia Lodgy of 2013. It’s cheap and does the job (moving me and from A to B) while maintaining very low fuel consumption.
I have a Gen ?? Outback. It’s a nice 2002 and I just replaced the stock stereo with a new Bluetooth one so it’s dope. Running this thing until it dies.
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