Jerkules_Jerkules,

I read something about the Carnegie libraries in Pittsburgh basically doing this way back when. Apparently it was popular for people to get off work, go home, clean up, eat, then head out to the library. There was stuff there for kids like story tellers, tutors, art workshops, and more. For adults, quiet places for people who just wanted to read, places for study, areas for people to discuss various subjects, classes on various skills (painting, pottery, carpentry, etc) and the ground floor main area had a general social space. They served coffee, food trucks set up outside, and some inside. It was a popular place for people who didn’t want to go to the bar.

CynicRaven,

That sounds fantastic. Experiment run its course, get derailed, something else?

Jerkules_Jerkules,

A combination of factors. Lower funding, suburbanization, growing means for home entertainment, growing wages sending people to more expensive options, etc.

alignedchaos,

One thing that happened is society forgot they can go do these things at libraries today.

Everything he listed is on the calendar of a great number of city libraries, if you check their websites! (Source: I built and maintained the websites for several libraries)

thantik,

I joined a hackerspace/makerspace. Similar in concept, but instead of books; tools and nerds.

isolatedscotch,

i would love to do the same but the nearest one is more then 100km away, sometimes it really sucks to be in a remote town

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve got a lively tabletop store that has a ton of tables. It’s got stuff that interests me on multiple nights a week, and a chill regular crowd.

Then I’ve got an evening running group. Admittedly they are about to close down until next year soon.

I do admit I’m less of a night owl nowadays, and more about spending my daytime hours doing active activities. Those hours are so slambooked I am putting things in a calender organizer so I don’t doublebook my time. The nights where I’m alone I usually feel pretty beat from the daytime, and ready to just relax at home contently.

I suppose what I’m saying is that part of the blame lies on society, but some of it is learned helplessness. Making a witty Twitter post might help vent but it won’t make new social hubs fall out of the sky for you. If you’re itching to do things then go do things. Everything I’m currently into, I started out by just showing up on my own and making friends there. If you’ve got friends who only socialize by drinking at bars, don’t be shocked when the only activities seem to be bar oriented.

wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.social avatar

I agree with the gist of your post. I would add, though, that your tabletop store is a store. There is an expectation that you spend money, whether its explicit or just implied by the fact that its their space and you're taking it up. I think we need spaces where people can exist without the expectation of commerce.

setsneedtofeed,
@setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world avatar

People bemoan being isolated. I mentioned one of many activities as an example of how to solve being isolated.

An indoors social space to just exist would be great. Complaining about it on the internet doesn’t solve anybody’s loneliness. We can still do that of course, complaining on the internet is tradition, but we can also posit solutions that actually make people less lonely.

In my experience, people socialize more quickly with strangers when there is a shared thread in a group, rather than just an open space. Hence suggesting going and doing something rather than just going to a place. Go run, go hike, go play frisbee, find whatever meetup online thing your area has. Some of it is free, some of it you have to put some money into. But life isn’t a choice between barhopping and crippling loneliness.

BURN,

The whole problem is that people don’t have the money to engage in spaces that require purchases. That’s the entire reason 3rd spaces have died. When people no longer have any disposable income they can’t go out any longer.

some_guy,

You aren’t offering a solution if your solution is the problem. Incredibly condescending point of view you have there.

CassowaryTom,

As former and probably future homeless person this is a bad idea.

cRazi_man,

Or we could implement this AND provide decent accomodation for unsheltered people.

ShaggySnacks,

Providing houses for the homeless? This smells like socialism and this America! The only people who get socialism are the rich and corporations. Everyone else can get fucked. /s

obinice,
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

They’d be full of children after school, loud, sticky, annoying children.

It’s still a good idea, but libraries should be a quiet calm place, and I came feckin stick them when they’ve got kids running around and stuff. Ugh.

Historical_General,

Are you British by the way?

Historical_General,

I fucking wish!

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

That would be pretty dope

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Option 3: disregard laws, fuck in the streets

It’s a group activity that everyone can enjoy! Get to really know your mail carrier, and learn how to get that 60% discount at the pizza parlor, all in an exciting and lively atmosphere!

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

idk. Seems kinda uncomfortable on pavement. But maybe on that soft flooring they use on the kid playgrounds?

can, (edited )
White_Flight,

sounds like San Francisco

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

There are usually late / all night coffee shops. Lots of good memories and conversations had there, and considerably cheaper (though not free).

spittingimage,
@spittingimage@lemmy.world avatar

That’s the thing, though - if you’re not spending money, you’re not welcome. It’s not your space, in any sense.

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Don’t got to tell me, I’ve held my coffee cup aloft like some kind of warding torch - proof that I’d paid a couple dollars to be here - back when I was hard up.

But if you’ve got money, it is a lot cheaper than a bar or a resto

danielton,

Since covid, most coffee shops, restaurants, and other hangouts open at 6 AM and close by 3 PM in my area. My only options are bars.

ada,
@ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

That’s how the big city library in my city used to work before covid hit.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

methhead at 3am with a stack of chemistry books

I FUCKING LOVE READING

wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.social avatar

Good for him.

apprehensively_human,

Jesse. We need to read.

son_named_bort,

It would also be useful for people that don’t like church, which is the main third place in much of rural America.

KoalaUnknown,

My college library is open 24/7 for students.

OpenStars,
@OpenStars@kbin.social avatar

Shhhh...

guyrocket,
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

Great idea. I think I will suggest it to my library!

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