XTL,

Here in Finland a lot of libraries are open pretty late (scan card and PIN to access, free of charge). Some close because of vandals, but it mostly works.

Not much socializing, though. Mostly people choose the drinking in domestic isolation.

lieuwestra,

That is why our local libraries started hosting board game nights. Mixed bag because there are already a bunch of successful board game clubs attracting the more experienced crowd.

Cold_Brew_Enema,

They should serve alcohol at libraries. That would be ideal.

echodot,

This seems like a great compromise.

But like brandy so it’s classy.

zalgotext,

And you can get fucked up way faster on brandy

spankinspinach,

Hear me out: speakeasy in the libraries, in a separate section (don’t want to ruin those books)

kautau,

But you have to know the special book to pull on a certain shelf to open the cool secret door

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Yes! But not a door. When you pull the book, the entire shelf/floor spins around to take you to the hidden speakeasy. Ideally with a jazz piano player named Sam who greets you by name.

ShaggySnacks,

Need to have cigars to amp the classiness even more.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Preferably a candle- or torch-lit affair... Can't have too many open flames.

ShaggySnacks,

More the merrier! Open flames for all!

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

I host late night D&D. Or play team sports. Life is what you make it folks.

deaf_fish,

D&D at the latest night libraries!

skqweezy,

Yup, even though I’m pretty new to D&D I’m hosting a game with a few people from the us (I’m from Europe), nearly every weekend I’m chuckling because of the things they come up with, some of the best fun from the entire week, even though it’s literally 1 am for me at that time

Yes I get a little bit sleep deprived, but I fix it by oversleeping till 10 AM

Life sucks but this is some of the few things keeping me here

troyunrau,
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

I refuse to play D&D online. It is my “real people time”, an irony considering we’re all playing imaginary characters.

About five years ago I started hosting D&D 9pm (21:00) Friday evenings. There was a restaurant in town that was open late, largely serving takeout orders. So we requested a regular table in the back corner and they offered us a free plate of nachos every Friday. We usually played for three or four hours, and a few people ordered drinks or finger food – enough for the restaurant to break even on the nachos at a minimum. It was our “bar replacement” activity. I immediately had buy in from the players, and had to turn people away.

I moved a few years later, and my new house had a large-group friendly basement suitable for D&D. In my new city, I posted looking for players for the same time slot: 9pm Fridays. I was oversubscribed within a few hours. We had a few pauses during COVID, but are still playing at the same timeslot.

I still use the “in person only” rule at my table. During COVID, a bunch we’re proposing we play online. I don’t want to play online. I can do that with innumerable games that already fill that niche. I want pencil and paper and friends.

skqweezy,

Yeah, I mentioned us playing online since I can’t exactly fly every weekend to the US just to play dnd

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

You shouldn’t talk and socialize inside a public library though.

Maybe a community center for activities would be better. Lemmy is basically a bunch of virtual community centers anyways.

Rivalarrival,

During the day, sure.

After dark, board games, LAN parties, Cards Against Humanity,

The library makes it appealing to me. Most of the time, I would rather just read in the corner, social-adjacent rather than socialization.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

You should check out some board game/card game shops around where you live.

Also, Cards Against Humanity is funny if you play it with your friends once every couple of months, I wouldn’t want to play it regularly, it gets old really fast.

Fogle,

It gets old immediately. I hate playing any game whose only entertainment comes from shock value

captain_aggravated,
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

There’s a lot of board/card games on the market like that, where once you’ve been through the deck once it’s kind of done.

Fogle,

Yeah I hate all of those games. I try to shut them down any time someone suggests them

Ser_Salty,

So many people don’t even care if the cards fit together, so playing “the biggest, blackest dick” will always win even if it doesn’t make sense.

kofe,

Public libraries hold community events all the time, though…? At least the ones near me have conference rooms and such that can be booked. One reason why drag time story hour has been under attack lately. One of the many avenues to further ostracize us

Decoy321,

BRING BACK THE THIRD PLACE

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place

Kusimulkku,

Examples of third places include churches, cafes, bars, clubs, community centres, public libraries, gyms, bookstores, makerspaces, stoops, and parks.

Player2,

Gyms, stores, cafes, etc. aren’t good third places because you’re expected to pay money to be there

deweydecibel,

Well, first off, “free” is not a requirement for a 3rd place, but even if we accept that the best third places are free, that doesn’t make ones where money is involved bad by default.

The difference is between paying admission or membership dues like gyms usually require vs a public space where there’s an expectation you will buy something but it’s not a requirement for entry, and it’s not the only thing to do there.

Stores don’t work because the purpose of being there is to buy things, so there’s nothing else to do, and no other acceptable behavior beyond maybe some chit chat.

But at a cafe, the seating area is designed for you to just chill and do other things besides ponder what you’re going to buy next. The seating areas are open and there’s an expectation a purchase is made, but you can order nothing while a person with you orders something, or you can order something small and cheap, and get the same level of access as anyone. That’s a very low barrier of entry for a place that is purpose made for social activity.

Same is true of bars. You need to buy something, sure, but the place is designed for social activity, not just reading the menu.

Kusimulkku,

I’m just saying there’s plenty of third places apparently

Jtskywalker,

I feel like this video (link below) does a good job of explaining why a lot of current third places aren’t quite meeting the need, or just don’t really fit the definition of third places.

piped.video/watch?v=MD_CMrCpBMc

I can think of a few places that meet most of the criteria near me, but there’s very few. The closest ones are probably the gaming shops, where you can show up and just hang out playing games with friends for free - but those are kind of geared towards specific activities, so you can’t always show up and just hang out with others whenever, as there are usually only regulars on certain days of the week, and often they are involved only in playing a game, not casual conversation.

echodot,

Gyms are absolutely not social places. The where you go if you want to be pissed off by everyone around you because they’re hogging the equipment.

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

STOOP KID LEFT HIS STOOP

ShaggySnacks,

A truly tremendous day in the neighbourhood.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Why does nobody ever accept my invitations to hang out on my stoop?

GBU_28,

It didn’t go anywhere

qwool,

have you heard of a street

dQw4w9WgXcQ,

After a short while, the library owners would realize that they could make a lot more money if they served alcohol in the evenings.

Peppycito,

My wife was a bartender and then got a job as a librarian. I don’t think she’d like that much.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Sorry guys, plan's off, this guy's wife said no.

Peppycito,

Soooooorrrryyyyyyyy

kakes,

I can’t express enough how badly I want this.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

It’s really disappointing how much of our space is privatized.

kakes,

I’m hoping to eventually open something like a board game cafe to help address this for my hometown. Far from a perfect solution, but I would like to get as close to a “third place” community-oriented vibe as possible without going totally broke, at least.

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Apparently we're even supposed to give individuals private space now!?

jballs,

It’s actually pretty easy to book libraries for after hours events. There’s a small cost associated because it requires staff to work outside normal hours.

kakes,

I can’t even afford to rent a room during normal working hours though. Plus, I’m pretty sure my local library doesn’t offer evening bookings.

Asterisk: I can technically afford it, but I’m not paying like $160/mo to host a weekly club at the library. That defeats the whole point of a third space.

alignedchaos, (edited )

Paying for something doesn’t defeat the point of a third place. Enterprising and profit do. People covering just the cost of materials required for their activity is not that bad a thing.

I would rather more basic activities be covered by taxes too though.

kakes,

I agree with you, but I do wish our society/culture allowed us to exist without requiring constant payment. Just exhausting after a while.

Seraph,
@Seraph@kbin.social avatar

Finally, the library bathroom will get used for sex.

magmaus3,

no

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Too late.

jeena,
@jeena@jemmy.jeena.net avatar

Would drinking be allowed?

ivanafterall,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

If I ran the library, it would be mandatory.

Shardikprime,

Most drunkards won’t be even able to read the library rules, even less the address to it

HerrBeter,

That is why librarians need to concealed carry. One musket per person! Nothing says go away like a .58 minie ball

ilinamorato,

Post on a local Facebook page that you’ll DM a game of D&D for anyone who’s interested. Bam, instant friends.

I might consider learning how to do it first, but yeah. Players are always looking for DMs, and nerds are fun to be around.

Ooh, you could play at the libr-- ohhhh.

postmateDumbass,

My friend’s uncle was arrested for playing at the library. He was by himself in a corner of the compurer lab.

StopSpazzing,
@StopSpazzing@lemmy.world avatar

Playing… With what?

postmateDumbass,

The Loch Ness Monster

LillyPip,

That’s how you get eaten by t-Rex skeletons and spanked by monkeys.

WhiteRabbit_33,

Sounds like a good time to me.

DrMango,

No no no. People don’t spend money at a public library. You haven’t thought of the profits!

PreviouslyAmused,

Has no one been thinking of the shareholders?!?

What’s going to happen to them if people just start hanging out in a free space? How do the shareholders make money off of that?

doingthestuff,

They could sell cocktails and cannabis edibles after 9pm.

Colorcodedresistor,

holy shit. how amazing would it be to go to a library get LIT af and do a bad movie night with the community.

commentary encouraged…

afraid_of_zombies,

Just throwing it out there: most libraries do have one late night day a week, there are probably a million people on earth right at this moment that would love to play a tabletop game with you or take a zoom class, every single area has clubs/associations/charities that would love some new faces.

Don’t expect the universe to give you companionship. You need to do it yourself

Colorcodedresistor,

You reap what you sow. you sow nothing you reap nothing.

well said.

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