That’s good, it might contribute to why I feel more mentally balanced when I stick to a green tea and high vegetable diet since that’s apparently a rich source of l-theanine and GABA. It’s hard to separate from the other benefits.
I don’t like our culture of having a magic pill for everything, when there are simpler (less processed, less packaging, much cheaper) things to try first that promote better health overall. But green tea, sweet potatoes and oily fish aren’t sexy marketing propositions that can be marked up x percent.
Melatonin is fine from time to time when my sleep schedule is fucked in all directions and I want to regulate.
NyQuil front time to time when I feel a cold coming on.
Nothing wrong with that. If you find that you need them to sleep that’s likely not correct. They don’t typically work fast enough to put you to sleep. They only ensure your sleep is better if there are extenuating circumstances
American here: I don’t have any problems sleeping, nor does my wife typically, and I can’t say that I know of anyone that takes a sleep supplement every single night.
I take meds to help me sleep at night. My crippling ADHD keeps my mind from resting without help. I’m on stimulants, but my last dose is at noon. Any later than that, and they’ll just cancel out my sleeping meds.
I set an alarm and wake up an hour before I wake up to take my stimulants. I take them then sleep for another hour. That’s the only way they don’t worsen my insomnia. And I’m in the smallest dose and I take it before the sun rises.
I had severe insomnia before I got my stimulants and as long as I keep that very early regimen they don’t worsen my insomnia.
That is a good idea, but I can’t go back to sleep once I’ve woken up on most days because my dogs get way too excited about it being morning and have to play as hard as they can be and harass tf outta me. My goldendoodle puppy gets in my face and licks my nose every morning and demands that I flap her ears around while she does slammy-whammies. My beagle has to get big morning hugs every day, or he’ll just stare at me and yell at an ever-increasing volume.
I take my stimulant in the morning once the dogs have left me alone so I can get ready for the day. My afternoon stimulant is during or right after lunch and is mostly to try to keep the afternoon sleepies at bay. My work tends to slow down in the afternoons, so I get pretty sleepy on a lot of days lol. I took it at 2 pm once and I did not sleep that night. My ADHD is super bad, but I’m sensitive to stimulants. A low dose works incredibly well for me. I’m on other meds that can work as stimulants a bit, so I’m sure they’re giving my ADHD medication a lil boost lol.
Haha I’m the same, severely ADHD but really sensitive to the stimulants. But my metabolism is slow, so it lasts me most of the day when I take it early. And yeah I have cats… I keep my pill in bed, and when I roll over to take it, they literally step all over me on me face and slam their heads into my head hahaha.
I have the opposite issue as I’m unmedicated for my ADHD, I can drink coffee at around noon and it’ll quiet down my brain enough that it can help me sleep
Same here. According to This article which sources a study by National Center for Health Statistics, less than 2% of Americans use a nightly sleep aid.
A different study by the NCHS reported that 81% of Americans reported “never” using a sleep aid.
Anxiety, stress, and modern blueish, bright lighting/screens are a huge part of the problem. Humans didn’t evolve to deal with overstimulation in the evening.
I had insomnia and stress issues for years to the point I had a panic attack – I thought I was having a heart attack or stroke. Dealing with the stress and light were major steps towards resolving the problem.
I cut way back on the news and doomscrolling to no more than an hour a day before noon. I set my house lights to dim down with the sun, and no TV, phone, or computer screens for at least an hour before bed. If it’s unavoidable: dimming them and a blue light filter help.
Good for you mate. I have no problem sleeping when I can go to sleep around 4am and wake around 12. Guess how well that works for me with a job and a family.
Yeah these ‘Americans eat food, Europeans OMG WTF CRAZY!!!’ memes are getting out of hand, I really want to to know which exact bit of Europe they think is utopia.
They sell melatonin and passion flower extract next to the fish oil and multivitamins in the supermarket over here where I live - not sure why people think this is just an American thing
What troubles me is not the fact more and more people are requiring medication to sleep is the normalization of advertising sleep medication/supplements.
It’s a serious disorder. Taken to extremes, it can kill. It’s not something to be trivially dealt with.
I’m in Europe and I see melatonin gummy bears being advertised on cartoon channels. Straight to kids. Where are the toys commercials? Need to start hooking children to medication as early as possible?
It gets worse, further down that path of advertising meds direct to consumers. Your doctors will stop working with you and prescribing drugs they think you need in favor of waiting for you to tell them what popular drugs you want to try
That doesn’t happen in my country, as real medications are completely prohibited to be advertised; only over the counter and nutritional supplements are allowed. We have a very harsh and punitive supervisor on that front. Fines are high and hurt.
This late laxing on allowing the melatonin gummies and similars airing to children is worrisome but it can be put down at any moment. Nonetheless, it should never had begun.
Has no one in this thread never considered the root cause with these:
Anxiety. Americans are an anxious society. And that is with good cause, no social safety net, work 2 jobs to get ahead and a mass shooting every goddamn day.
It’s the only time I’m not thinking about all the things. Things I failed to accomplish today, what I have to do tomorrow, what I want to do but will probably be to mentally drained to do, the constant stress of work, crippling loneliness. General just so tired.
Once the stuff kicks in, all the noise stops. No longer burdened by it all. It’s the few times I smile and feel somewhat happy. It’s a lot easier to fall asleep.
Yikes. You’ve painted a vivid picture of the mindset that most people are in when they get addicted to drugs. Even if what you’re using isn’t inherently addictive thats a vulnerable place to be in. Hope you can find some healthy sources of help.
Just a friendly advice from a stranger. I’d prioritize figuring out my priorities if I were you. You can’t have it all, and you’ll get burned trying to have it all. Pick what makes you happy and work towards that. Don’t burn out trying to please others, help others or make others rich, before you sort yourself out. What you’re in, is neither normal, healthy or even safe.
I’d recommend not using it too often for sleep. Weed tends to disrupt REM sleep. Rem is extremely beneficial as it plays a role in memory consolidation, emotional processing, brain development, and dreaming.
But REM sleep gives me night terrors an I wake up screaming and thrashing. I use a glass of whiskey to keep the NT’s away and I realize that isn’t terribly healthy, but it keeps my fiance from being woken up/ bruised
Could be worse. As a kid I had night terrors and sleepwalked. With no memory of it. So I would go to sleep in one place, and wake up somewhere else, drenched in sweat, loaded with adrenaline, screaming and with no idea where I was or what was happening. Just a straight transition from falling asleep to terrified panic in a different room (or once, my car).
Cbd is the only thing that puts me to sleep reliably within 15 minutes of taking. I’ve tried melatonin with no effect, i’ve tried some other random stuff, CBD oil just works.
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