The thing about EVE is that caveat emptor is the social contract, and as long as you don’t get your dander up about being pirates or scammed, the “bad guys” are more than willing to help you learn to avoid the next trap. I was once part of an “anti-piracy” roaming fleet that got bored with the quiet night, and ended up jumping a newbie who was hanging out where they shouldn’t have been, tackling his ship, and proceeding to ransom it back to him for the princely sum of 1 ISK while we laughed our heads off in Teamspeak. Then we sent him on his way with a few hundred thousand ISK extra, some pointers on highsec versus lowsec, and the valuable lesson that there were always sharks on the prowl for easy prey.
Im just going to say FFXIV in my experience has a very friendly community, one of the nicest ive seen, so i dont fully understand where that comes from.
For me it would probably be Garry’s Mod, as its full of so many edgy teens who constantly say the n word.
I’ve had super helpful roulettes and really terrible roulettes. When I was raiding, I found various people who were either super toxic or super helpful in DF.
I’ve never played a game that was so all over the place with community as FFXIV.
Tbh the genshin community isn’t necessarily toxic, genshin is so large that it’s genuinely difficult to pin down an entire genshin community. There’s the twitter genshin community, the tiktok community, different content creator’s communities, etc. It’s not a monolith just because the game is so gargantuan. The social media communities tend to be horrible but like, i watch a small genshin tiktok-er and theorycrafter and his discord and related communities around that have been genuinely lovely and actively elevated my experience with the game. I think it’s important to look at how, past a certain point, specific communities dont really exist? and that’s not just a genshin thing that goes for anything, different communities sort of splinter off and it’s hard to hold the whole thing to task ig
In any case, FFXIV is a weird pull because in my time playing GW2 I have many friends that have gone to ffxiv and come over to guild wars from it and almost always I hear nothing but good things about the broader community. It might have a bit of a toxic positivity vibe to it at times but I think the broader community seems to be pretty good? But uh. Valorant’s gotten pretty bad. I love the game and the people I’ve met through my time with the game, and the community was quite good around the beta but it’s just at a point where it’s just. fueled by ego and weird horny tiktokers, it’s not a great time lol
I get that communities for popular games can be a bit hit or miss, but communities for single player games are pretty chill. Competitive team games like the Source games you mentioned, League of Legends etc. are on a whole different level of toxic. They can't even be compared.
For something like Genshin the real problem is content creators. Much of the so called toxicity has little to nothing to do with the game itself and is more an issue with huge cults of personality clashing with each other. I think every popular game is going to fall victim to this going forward and you just have to learn to ignore it.
just throwin in another anecdote that XIV has had one of the best game communities I've experienced, even when the game gets pretty stressful in endgame content.
What I think is weird about folks hatin on the Genshin Community is it’s essentially a single player game. There is no community really outside of social media. I would say social media is the problem.
This! I've always had super friendly interactions with Genshin co-op, even when searching through the co-op tab rather than looking online (aside from one kid I had to kick because I was not going to buy them a welkin lol). The only time I've come across problematic behavior is through social media. It's also very popular so of course on twitter and reddit there is going to be a large loud volume of immature people, but that's most games. In game people are usually good.
even around the game people are good provided you aren’t broadly exposed to it via tiktok/twitter/reddit/twitch. Some of the smaller genshin discords have been really helpful and sweet and full of good people. But honestly I think there’s just a critical mass where communities like that kinda blow up so that’s not a genshin problem so much as that’s a “so many people in one place at one time” kind of problem lol
It tells me they are used to cuddly friendly fandoms. They've definitely never played real toxic games like Mordhau or anything Paradox has made. There are games that are legit >50% neonazis and avowed racists.
As a FFXIV player, your experience or understanding of the game sounds like an outlier… I’ve played for 2+ years, it’s the most positive, welcoming and lively community I’ve ever come across!
Totally agree. I’ve been in some dailies where we keep wiping over and over due to new player and usually everyone is super understanding and gives pointers and help. I’ve rarely had a toxic pug in FFXIV. One one of the reasons each expansion brings me back.
Agree. I’ve been playing the game for the last year and am now almost at the end of the MSQ and I’ve basically encountered zero toxic people and plenty of people that went out of their way to be helpful. If anything, a few BLM players were trying a bit too much to help pointing out issues with my BLM rotation, which isn’t helpful when you’re still below LVL 50 and getting new spells every other level. Haven’t seen anything like that since switching to RDM, so it may just be a BLM thing.
I don't think other players can see your rdm bar, so they have no way to judge what your next move should be, since there is really no rotation, it's more of a reactionary class depending in what procs.
Bro what did ff 14 do to you? who pissed in your chereos there? starcraft the elitism, the rage there is nothing that will ever come close to the levels of salt that that community produced
Idk, the community on Reddit/online is pretty friendly and active. In PVP and co-op it’s typically pretty great the first week after launch and about 2-3 years after launch.
You can’t really get around the fact that self imposed challenge is a huge part of how the core fans enjoy the game and I think it’s difficult for newcomers to know when hardcore fans are speaking to them vs their own compatriots.
Sekiro fans are hugely supportive of newcomers though, probably because it’s a relatively less played game. The community around Elden Ring suffered from its own success I think.
Individual pokemon fans are sweethearts, but forever reasons, most major online pokemon communities are dens of awful where some of the worst people gather and make you question why you're even a fan in the first place.
The Barrens chat used to be this weird wonderful mix of helpful, toxic, and just strange.
I even had the T-shirt "I survived the barrens chat". I might still have it in a drawer somewhere. If so, it vastly outlived my interest in playing WoW.
Easily Rocket League. It's always been toxic but it's been much worse since becoming free to play.
Rage quitting
Malicious compliance (AFK, accidental own-goals)
Team mates playing for the opposing team entire games
Passive aggressive quick chats
Overtly aggressive free-form chats (being chastised over every tiny mistake)
The game's competitive ranking systems makes it so each win and loss matters, and people often take their vitriol out on their own team before looking inwards.
lol, I love rocket league and I can’t deny this, but there is also a thing called confirmation bias as I don’t play other games to verify.(Fighting game for example can be pretty toxic as well.)
Yesterday, I have a casual 2s match where the opponent are really good, they have maybe gc2~3 mechanics(judge from their touches, consistency and boost controls, way better than my usual C3-GC1 encounters) and just trying to get clip shots on me and another random. We were originally doing fine, BUT, for some reason, after they scored the 2nd goal with some flip reset stuff. My random team mate starts to trying to “show off” with ceiling shots and his own flip reset thing. Like I don’t mind if you can actually pull that off. But he mess up or simply not mechanic enough with that which leaves me defending 2 of them with comm, it’s impossible for me to work against 2 GC let along 2 GC2-3. Somewhere after we lost 4-1 and he had a good shot from my blocking a pass, it’s literally just catch and drive up to score cause the opponents are still “falling” from they mid-air prejump stuff. No, he has to score a flip reset so he push to mid boost and then did his setup. You know how fast they can be so by the time he is off wall the opponents are back and one in goal on on wall. Then me just watching him doing his stupid flip reset attempt.
And then he missed the ball, I let out a long “urrrhhhh” sigh in VC don’t know if he hears it or just too shameful, he throws the FF after my sigh and I gladly accepted it. I usually don’t even FF if there is a toxic play on my side cause I like keep them around so they don’t ruin other people’s game, if they quite they eat the ban for 5 mins, so take one for the team I can manage. But I can’t just keep up 1v2 in that situation. And to me that play style is more frustrating than dealing with toxic players.
I played CSGO for a decade l or more. Got into rocket league and found the community far worse in rocket league. Counterstrike is like a chatroom with guns. Rocket league is wanna be pro level play and blaming teammates when you can’t make the play you wanted to.
Every game community has some rotten apples but RL has by far the highest percentage of 'em in any game I’ve played. I get the urge to play RL a few times per year, but it only takes a few games (be it casual or competitive) to put me off again.
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