Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

Dark Souls

Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Anything FromSoftware really. Any question is answered with a variation of “git gud”. Not to mention the elitism.

magic_lobster_party,

“I think DS is pretty ok”

“Git gud dude! DS is amazing!”

Gork,
@Gork@beehaw.org avatar

The only appropriate response to that is

<pre style="background-color:#ffffff;">
<span style="color:#323232;">git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
</span>
Caligvla,
@Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ingenius.

r3nder,
@r3nder@beehaw.org avatar

My guy

Eavolution,
@Eavolution@kbin.social avatar

tbh I've always found the community to be very helpful when I've needed a hand with anything

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

And I play offline because all online play did was waste my time with trolls

astramist,
@astramist@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

100%!

HiT3k,

Idk, the community on Reddit/online is pretty friendly and active. In PVP and co-op it’s typically pretty great the first week after launch and about 2-3 years after launch.

You can’t really get around the fact that self imposed challenge is a huge part of how the core fans enjoy the game and I think it’s difficult for newcomers to know when hardcore fans are speaking to them vs their own compatriots.

Sekiro fans are hugely supportive of newcomers though, probably because it’s a relatively less played game. The community around Elden Ring suffered from its own success I think.

SuiXi3D,
@SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

Cyberpunk, easily. Everyone loves to hate it for some reason, and shit all over everyone that dares to enjoy it.

Mandy,

Bro what did ff 14 do to you? who pissed in your chereos there? starcraft the elitism, the rage there is nothing that will ever come close to the levels of salt that that community produced

TheMightyBlu,
@TheMightyBlu@feddit.uk avatar

As a FFXIV player, your experience or understanding of the game sounds like an outlier… I’ve played for 2+ years, it’s the most positive, welcoming and lively community I’ve ever come across!

batcheck,

Totally agree. I’ve been in some dailies where we keep wiping over and over due to new player and usually everyone is super understanding and gives pointers and help. I’ve rarely had a toxic pug in FFXIV. One one of the reasons each expansion brings me back.

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

Agree. I’ve been playing the game for the last year and am now almost at the end of the MSQ and I’ve basically encountered zero toxic people and plenty of people that went out of their way to be helpful. If anything, a few BLM players were trying a bit too much to help pointing out issues with my BLM rotation, which isn’t helpful when you’re still below LVL 50 and getting new spells every other level. Haven’t seen anything like that since switching to RDM, so it may just be a BLM thing.

LennethAegis,
@LennethAegis@kbin.social avatar

I don't think other players can see your rdm bar, so they have no way to judge what your next move should be, since there is really no rotation, it's more of a reactionary class depending in what procs.

pacoboyd,

What I think is weird about folks hatin on the Genshin Community is it’s essentially a single player game. There is no community really outside of social media. I would say social media is the problem.

kehtea,
@kehtea@kbin.social avatar

This! I've always had super friendly interactions with Genshin co-op, even when searching through the co-op tab rather than looking online (aside from one kid I had to kick because I was not going to buy them a welkin lol). The only time I've come across problematic behavior is through social media. It's also very popular so of course on twitter and reddit there is going to be a large loud volume of immature people, but that's most games. In game people are usually good.

pixel,
@pixel@beehaw.org avatar

even around the game people are good provided you aren’t broadly exposed to it via tiktok/twitter/reddit/twitch. Some of the smaller genshin discords have been really helpful and sweet and full of good people. But honestly I think there’s just a critical mass where communities like that kinda blow up so that’s not a genshin problem so much as that’s a “so many people in one place at one time” kind of problem lol

Pegatron,
@Pegatron@kbin.social avatar

It tells me they are used to cuddly friendly fandoms. They've definitely never played real toxic games like Mordhau or anything Paradox has made. There are games that are legit >50% neonazis and avowed racists.

blazera,
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

just throwin in another anecdote that XIV has had one of the best game communities I've experienced, even when the game gets pretty stressful in endgame content.

moon_matter,
@moon_matter@kbin.social avatar

Genshin community,

I get that communities for popular games can be a bit hit or miss, but communities for single player games are pretty chill. Competitive team games like the Source games you mentioned, League of Legends etc. are on a whole different level of toxic. They can't even be compared.

For something like Genshin the real problem is content creators. Much of the so called toxicity has little to nothing to do with the game itself and is more an issue with huge cults of personality clashing with each other. I think every popular game is going to fall victim to this going forward and you just have to learn to ignore it.

pixel,
@pixel@beehaw.org avatar

Yeah cults of personality + ipad kids on social media tend to be the large problem with genshin imo

Thurgo,

OSRS high level PvM or deep wild pking.

pixel,
@pixel@beehaw.org avatar

Tbh the genshin community isn’t necessarily toxic, genshin is so large that it’s genuinely difficult to pin down an entire genshin community. There’s the twitter genshin community, the tiktok community, different content creator’s communities, etc. It’s not a monolith just because the game is so gargantuan. The social media communities tend to be horrible but like, i watch a small genshin tiktok-er and theorycrafter and his discord and related communities around that have been genuinely lovely and actively elevated my experience with the game. I think it’s important to look at how, past a certain point, specific communities dont really exist? and that’s not just a genshin thing that goes for anything, different communities sort of splinter off and it’s hard to hold the whole thing to task ig

In any case, FFXIV is a weird pull because in my time playing GW2 I have many friends that have gone to ffxiv and come over to guild wars from it and almost always I hear nothing but good things about the broader community. It might have a bit of a toxic positivity vibe to it at times but I think the broader community seems to be pretty good? But uh. Valorant’s gotten pretty bad. I love the game and the people I’ve met through my time with the game, and the community was quite good around the beta but it’s just at a point where it’s just. fueled by ego and weird horny tiktokers, it’s not a great time lol

ReepusVanguard,
@ReepusVanguard@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Im just going to say FFXIV in my experience has a very friendly community, one of the nicest ive seen, so i dont fully understand where that comes from.

For me it would probably be Garry’s Mod, as its full of so many edgy teens who constantly say the n word.

ursakhiin,

I think the FFXIV thing can be very YMMV.

I’ve had super helpful roulettes and really terrible roulettes. When I was raiding, I found various people who were either super toxic or super helpful in DF.

I’ve never played a game that was so all over the place with community as FFXIV.

flying_monkies,
@flying_monkies@kbin.social avatar

Eve Online where, as long as you're not telling your victim to use real world money to buy things before you scam them, anything goes.

Thrashy,
@Thrashy@beehaw.org avatar

The thing about EVE is that caveat emptor is the social contract, and as long as you don’t get your dander up about being pirates or scammed, the “bad guys” are more than willing to help you learn to avoid the next trap. I was once part of an “anti-piracy” roaming fleet that got bored with the quiet night, and ended up jumping a newbie who was hanging out where they shouldn’t have been, tackling his ship, and proceeding to ransom it back to him for the princely sum of 1 ISK while we laughed our heads off in Teamspeak. Then we sent him on his way with a few hundred thousand ISK extra, some pointers on highsec versus lowsec, and the valuable lesson that there were always sharks on the prowl for easy prey.

sparklecherry, (edited )

Back in the day, Undertale. Many made YouTubers and livestreamers have less fun by spoiling the pacifist, genocide and neutral routes and letting everyone only go the pacifist way. If they didn’t then the fans would get all angry. Outside of playing the videogame was also another can of worms.

Don’t know if Deltarune, also made by the creator, has the same problem since I’ve only ever played the game myself and never seeked out the community.

spencer,

Technically not my own experience, but my partner plays Dead By Daylight and the community there seems absolutely terrible. I ask them why they play it at this point and they don’t even know.

spencer,

Technically not my own experience, but my partner plays Dead By Daylight and the community there seems absolutely terrible. I ask them why they play it at this point and they don’t even know.

H3L1X,
@H3L1X@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, the DBD community is pretty bad.

Pegatron,
@Pegatron@kbin.social avatar

I can tell no one here has played Mordhau lol. It's basically wall to wall neo Nazis spamming racial slurs. I got regular death threats, like almost every match. Destiny? Little league bullshit.

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