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jimbo, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Looks around at all the houses

I think we have our answer already.

bluemite,

Why aren’t there any trees around the houses?

GentlemanLoser, in You're so close ...

He knows, this shit is intentional because he thinks it’s funny that he’s getting paid to make a mockery of public transit

whoisearth, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Have you not heard of mixed density? There should be houses, semi, townhomes, 3 story walk-ups and apartment buildings. You could probably do all that and still keep 50% of the island nature.

Supervisor194, (edited )
@Supervisor194@lemmy.world avatar

Not only this, but in the second picture, that other 96% is ripe for rezoning - money men will not stop until they buy off enough politicians to develop it into something resembling the first picture.

Edit: I’m not saying I like it, I’m just stating facts.

potoo22, (edited )

The shores become resort property. The rest becomes a mini-mall. The resort buys the apartment complex a year later. With any houses, all houses get bought by cooperations and rented out as overpriced Airbnb houses. Fuck we can’t have anything nice with unfettered capitalism.

Edit: Sorry, off-topic rant.

Cryophilia,

We must save the natural beauty of this island from being destroyed by developers!

How??

By destroying it ourselves first!!

paysrenttobirds, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Density doesn’t save nature. Habitat protection laws save nature. Make sure that’s part of the plan.

Also, the picture shows the saved nature very accessible to the density. This is not usually what these zoning plans have in mind.

Many important species, especially insects and their predators, can absolutely make good use of patchy suburban habitat if it is properly managed, moreso if it is networked, and natural space nearer homes benefits residents and the environment.

We can’t keep saving mountaintops and deserts, we need to rehabilitate more of these nice valleys and riversides we all like to build cities on.

Nioxic, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Fewer people …1 house

5714,

I’m sure this solution works well with cities like London or New York. /s

orrk,

just genocide eh?

Wrongleverkrunk, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Apartments suck ass

ntzm, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Lmao what are these comments, are lemmers thicker than redditors?

Sensitivezombie, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Single family homes need to be banned from cities.

Harpsist, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Build a co-op garden around the apartment and you’ve got yourself a deal.

Everyone in the place gets X amount of space. More then 60% of people won’t garden at all and their share can be maintained by the gardeners.

Fruit trees and berry bushes will be grown for all to use.

UrPartnerInCrime,

And a really cool waterslide

speaker_hat, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

OP do you live in apartment complex?

Fried_out_Kombi,
@Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. And also importantly, I live in a city that has an abundance of missing middle housing, meaning it’s probably the most affordable major city in North America, has a very high quality of life, has terrific walkability and bikeability, and punches well above its weight in terms of rapid transit.

The result is I live in a good quality apartment, in a very convenient location, without roommates, all for a surprisingly affordable price.

But because so many cities make it extremely hard – if not straight up illegal – to build anything but suburban sprawl, those cities are far more expensive and far more car-dependent.

lntl, in You're so close ...

but imagine how many more could be moved if they added another lane

MrMusAddict, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Assuming the needs of a living space is the same across both populations, this graphic seems disingenuous. The pixel count of the apartment suggests it could fit 6½ of the homes per floor. Across 9 floors that’s 58 homes worth of square footage.

I assume the homes have garages, which would not account for living space. But garages don’t account for 42% of a homes’ size.

where_am_i,

Ok, double the pink block. Now what?

MrMusAddict,

Then you’d be closer to genuine compared to what this graphic shows.

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

But garages don’t account for 42% of a homes’ size.

You should see some of the houses around here. Sometimes, the garage is more than 60% of the whole house.

MrMusAddict,

For that to be true, you’d have a 2-car garage attached to at most 400 SqFt of living space…

Or in other words, for a home with a reasonable 1500 SqFt of living space, you’d need at least an 8 car garage…

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Yeah. Sometimes they even have 3 car garages. They are funky as fuck. Like apartments with multiple garages attached.

collegefurtrader,

Car parking isnt needed because there’s nowhere to go

MrMusAddict,

True, but what I’m saying is that there are losses in livable square footage represented in the apartment. A home’s SqFt excludes the garage, so a 1500 SqFt home is actually 1740 SqFt with a 1-car garage. I.e. a 1-car garage only takes up 14% of the area underneath a roof of a 1500 Livable-SqFt house. Yet, the represented apartment has lost 42%.

That implies that if the the houses in the picture are 1500 livable square feet, then the apartments are 1009 livable square feet; a ⅓ loss in livable area.


<span style="color:#323232;">Apartment Complex = 58 Homes' worth of area including garage (1,740 × 58 = 100,920 SqFt)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">100,920 / 100 apartments = 1,009 SqFt per apartment
</span>
Squirrel, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?
@Squirrel@thelemmy.club avatar

An island of this size should probably have neither.

JokeDeity, in [meme] How would you rather see this land developed?

Yeah, no fucking way. I lived in apartments enough to know I’d rather live in my car than another.

Zikeji, (edited )
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  • GBU_28,

    What about the psycho neighbor who questions everyone’s identity every time they get off the elevator, aggressively blocking the hallway?

    No, she doesn’t work for the building. Yes, the cops have been involved multiple times. She is compulsively obsessed with monitoring everyone who moves through the hallway.

    Anecdote of course, and the suburbia part of the meme sucks. But humans are the most dangerous thing around and I’m so happy to not be in that building any more (friend still lives there so I’m aware it’s still happening). More space please! (But no monoculture, limit impact, reduce car usage whenever possible (gogo bike trails)). That’s the ideal balance.

    MyNameIsIgglePiggle,

    It’s the neighbours that make apartment living a problem for me.

    There’s always some psycho with no job who has nothing better to do than make your life difficult

    thefatfrog, in Today, I bike to school

    Just got my bike back from shop for a hefty maintenance. A lot had to be done and couple of parts had to be changed. At the end it costed me just 50€. If this was a car with a similar maintenance, it would have been at least couple of hundred, if not even close to a 1k€. Bikes are awesome.

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