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orcrist, to RedditMigration in The statement Reddit gave us is the oldest trick in the book. (The Verge)

For anyone out there who doesn't want to browse to TikTok, the short version is that the Reddit communications staff refuses to comment on information that's being used for upcoming stories, and instead they say that they will issue corrections after the fact.

This is of course an old tactic that companies have tried to use to discredit reporters, but it doesn't work very well when you tell everyone that you're using it.

Fudgeknuckles98,

Thanks for summarising! I block tiktok on my pihole so I couldn’t have read that even if I wanted to

muftiboy,

gosh spez must be the dumbest person alive. how on earth does he manage to not kill himself every day out of sheer stupidity -.-

baggachipz,
@baggachipz@kbin.social avatar

From a New Yorker interview years ago:

Huffman has calculated that, in the event of a disaster, he would seek out some form of community: “Being around other people is a good thing. I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.”

comedy,
@comedy@kbin.social avatar

Spez would get his ass kicked the first time he tried hissing anyone around.

Givesomefucks,

It’s the result of Prosperity Jesus.

They believe they’re wealthy because they have natural talent. It ignores lots of people are more talented, and never got the same opportunities to be successful.

In a real apocalyptic disaster, they’d be the ones real leaders sentence to death (either overt or shunning them from the group) to set an example for the rest of the group.

MrFahrenheit, to RedditMigration in The statement Reddit gave us is the oldest trick in the book. (The Verge)

At a similar time as The Verge was threatened I noticed some articles changed their tune and switched to downplaying the Reddit situation. The one I recall is Gizmodo reporting that Reddit traffic was back to normal.

It'll be interesting to see how things play out at the end of this week when the 3rd Party Apps go offline, but to be honest I'm happy to say my new home is Kbin.social and don't see the need for an active Reddit account, though I may lurk from time to time if I'm looking for some particular information that's not yet on Kbin.

The game changer for Fediverse is stable mobile applications, once the Apollo shaped hole on my phone is filled I think it'll be pretty much a drop-in replacement.

EnthusiasticWhale,

Eh if traffic has returned to normal it's up to their journalistic integrity to report it.

If it hasn't then they are lieing and it hurts the brand more

collegefurtrader,

You’re 15 years too late to see “journalistic integrity”, son.

Its all about the motherfucking clicks!

HeartyBeast,
@HeartyBeast@kbin.social avatar

I think you’re brushing with a much to wide brush. There’s certainly still journalism with integrity out there.

bionicjoey,

“Reddit Claims Traffic Has Returned to Normal”

Versus

“Reddit Traffic Has Returned to Normal”

chagall,
@chagall@lemmy.world avatar

traffic has returned to normal

This is a very non-specific statement. As a former moderator, Reddit gave us lots of metrics to measure "traffic". Site visits, unique visits, engagement.... all of these can be used to talk about "traffic". It's also not hard to spin up a couple bots, talk about site visits, not unique visits and call everything "normal".

Metrics, especially vanity metrics are very easy to twist if you have a narrative to tell. And boy, does Reddit, Inc. have a narrative to tell.

Givesomefucks,

Yep.

The first thing they taught us in my graduate level statistics class was:

Anyone can make a statistic that backs up their bias. You’re here to learn how to accurately represent a situation with statistics, and be able to point out when others are misusing statistics

That’s the hard part

rebelappliance, to lgbtq_plus in Wayne Brady comes out as pansexual

So you’re saying there’s a chance

bdesk,

You ugly as hell. Keep wishing.

Gaywallet,
@Gaywallet@beehaw.org avatar

There is no charitable way to interpret this comment. Stop being a dick online. Enjoy your ban

Thorned_Rose, to RedditMigration in The statement Reddit gave us is the oldest trick in the book. (The Verge)
@Thorned_Rose@kbin.social avatar

Well done The Verge for not caving to the ridiculous machismo posturing. Reddit PR keeps digging their own grave deeper and deeper.

Noxvento,
@Noxvento@lemmy.world avatar

Sadly most users still don't care.

Dark_Blade,
@Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

‘Most users’ will care when they lose all the content they relied on for their late-night doomscrolling.

nameless_prole,

Before they know it, they'll find themselves in a sea of shit content and ads, and realize what they lost.

fartsinger,

Are you from the past?

LChitman,
@LChitman@kbin.social avatar

I imagine a lot of people just browse All, so they're already there.

Stovetop,

I'm assuming most of the doomscrolling content comes from bots. It's all articles with clickbait titles auto-posted by the social media arm of news/blog/journal/etc. sites, then upvoted by bots for visibility to try to lure as many people in as possible for that sweet ad revenue.

eleitl,

We don't care about most users, if they insist to ignore the fire alarms.

knoodrake,

I do care about most users, they create most of the content i read.

eleitl,

My experience, based on fringe, very technical communites differs somewhat. But you can only lead horses to water, not make them drink.

DTFpanda, to redditwasfun in Reddit's official TikTok account hypocritically showing off MSOutlookit

To me, the most disheartening thing about it is how most people didn’t care.

JackbyDev,

Agreed. I am enjoying Lemmy though. I don’t think it will ever realistically compete with Reddit but I am enjoying it and try to make content.

Psythik, (edited ) to lgbtq_plus in Wayne Brady comes out as pansexual

Why the hell would you link to TikTok. I’m glad I read the URL first cause I almost clicked on it.

Gaywallet,
@Gaywallet@beehaw.org avatar

It’s okay to not like tiktok, but can you try to be a little nicer when sharing your opinion of it?

CyberEgg,

I think they were quite calm. Tiktok is cancer. And I’m not talking about the content.

flak,

I usually stay away from this kind of response but it seemed like the initial comment was needlessly aggressive to me.

acastcandream,

Ok but wayne brady chose it as the platform, it’s the original source. It makes sense to share it. I say this as someone who also doesn’t use tiktok. If it bothers you that much then go read an article or the text from it which is actually here on this very post right below the link. You have a dozen options that don’t require you to chest pound about how great you are for hating tiktok.

Gaywallet,
@Gaywallet@beehaw.org avatar

It’s not about calm, I can be calm and be a dick. It’s about being nice. I mod flagged the reply because the user is not from around here and may not have bothered to read our single rule, which is to be nice. This reminder applies to you as well now. Be nice around here.

BraveSirZaphod,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

Probably because it is the primary source for this story; it is literally Wayne's personal account.

I'm sure you can find a TMZ article if that's more your style.

acastcandream,

What the hell were you thinking!?

Honestly I’m far more concerned about how intense your response has been. The text is right below the link here on this post. No one grabbed you by the throat and forced you to open tiktok. Clearly tiktok lives rent free in your head for several hours a day if this post warranted such a strong reaction, despite the fact that you don’t even use it.

I don’t like twitter. I don’t seethe anytime someone posts a link from it.

Anyway I’m happy for him. It’s good to see he feels safe coming out.

dr_catman,

This isn’t Twitter. With all respect, you need to bee-have better.

SJ_Zero, to RedditMigration in The statement Reddit gave us is the oldest trick in the book. (The Verge)
@SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net avatar

“We’re just going to passive aggressively fact check you afterwards to discredit you” seems like a pretty 2020 playbook to me.

raccoona_nongrata, to lgbtq_plus in Wayne Brady comes out as pansexual
@raccoona_nongrata@beehaw.org avatar

Cool, it’s nice when older people come out because it’s a sign that times are changing for the better, despite the right trying to shove everyone back in the closet.

I just feel bad that people go through so much of their life suppressing an important part of themselves, it really is a kind of deeply personal theft committed against them by the people in their life who kept them pushed in the closet through explicit or implicit bigotry. Such a waste of life that could be lived happier.

FoundTheVegan, to redditwasfun in Reddit's official TikTok account hypocritically showing off MSOutlookit
@FoundTheVegan@kbin.social avatar

Hey everyone! Look at this cool thing I killed! Wouldn't it have been neat?!? Don't you fukin dare tho

🙄

SirGolan, to technology in Short Video. Why is Etsy so bad now?

Etsy employee #3 or so here but haven’t worked there in more than a decade. Rob is a great guy, but I don’t think he could have grown Etsy the way it has. I’m sure some people will say that’s not a bad thing but my response is you probably wouldn’t know about Etsy if he stayed on.

I think on the whole, the new CEO has done more good than bad for the company. They’ve always had criticism of non handmade stuff being sold on there. I think they could do more to that end, and if the video is right that the new CEO is allowing non handmade stuff on there, I don’t agree with him on that. I haven’t seen that myself and I do still use the site. While he’s made other decisions I don’t agree with, encouraging sellers to do free shipping was a good move. Many buyers expect that thanks to Amazon. The fee increases while for sure had an impact on sellers bottom lines, don’t compare to what Amazon Handmade (if that still exists) and ebay charge (not to get into most other marketplaces like the app stores that charge 30%). The current CEO in my opinion understands Etsy way more than the other two they had after Rob was out.

Also in terms of Fred Wilson, she should have done a little more homework on him. He was one of the original investors. He understands Etsy. He’s also entitled to some return for making a very risky investment on 4 kids (they were like 20 when they started it). I haven’t spoken to Fred in some time so maybe he’s changed, but I doubt it.

Anyway, I don’t mean to be so negative about the video, but I also don’t think Etsy has lost its way as much as the video implies. Granted I am not a seller, just a user at this point.

1bluepixel,
@1bluepixel@kbin.social avatar

I'm disappointed this video is doing so well in the Fediverse. It's largely unsourced and highly speculative like most of the videos on TikTok.

fbievan, to technology in Short Video. Why is Etsy so bad now?
@fbievan@fedia.io avatar

I think it's mostly because etsy stood for something, then shifted over time to something else.

taanegl,

Seems to be par for the course. When did Google remove "do no evil" as their mantra again? They start off all stary eyed and idealistic, but almost always go "alright give it to the sociopath".

fbievan,
@fbievan@fedia.io avatar

Yeah, very unfortunate there

Hyperreality,

Google isn't evil. Human morality doesn't apply to an algorithm. They're amoral.

AdminWorker,

Can you start moral and end amoral? I would say that giving up morality is immoral (even if a snapshot of your end state is amoral)

ondoyant,
@ondoyant@beehaw.org avatar

its not an algorithm. its a legal box made of people who make choices, and we can make moral judgements about those choices.

Tylerdurdon, to redditwasfun in Reddit's official TikTok account hypocritically showing off MSOutlookit

Any company with the most basic proxy functions wouldn’t care about the skin. They’d know anyway.

min_fapper,

The point was not for corporate trackers, but rather for people looking over your shoulder. A quick glance would look like you’re checking email - someone would have to stand there and read to realize the content is actually Reddit.

Tylerdurdon,

And I wasn’t contradicting that point (or misunderstanding it). Most companies have some form of proxy and can also control your ability to use a VPN as well.

There’s still a sizeable chunk of work from home workforce, which also defeats the purpose.

Managers have learned to look at output to determine productivity (at least, the smart ones have).

20 years ago? This would have been useful. Even 10. Now? Not so much.

Maybe for kids trying to be sneaky around parents, but even parental controls have come a long way.

streetfestival, to lgbtq_plus in Wayne Brady comes out as pansexual

I was introduced to Wayne Brady through Chappelle’s Show :) I like his coming out, and the thoughtful message he gave. As a wealthy, middle-aged Black celebrity and comic, I think he may be quite influential in opening others’ minds and hearts. Also, I’m glad there’s a text summary here, because I’d never visit TT

randombit, to technology in Short Video. Why is Etsy so bad now?

I used to love Etsy for true, handmade items. Now I have to wade through a sea of drop shipped AliExpress crap.

iNeedScissors67, to technology in Short Video. Why is Etsy so bad now?
@iNeedScissors67@kbin.social avatar

Is there an article I can read? Besides hating video in general for getting information, also fuck TikTok.

trashhalo,
Sharpiemarker,

Right? A video on why Etsy is bad hosted on TikTok. There's gotta be a joke there somewhere...

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