@atocci@kbin.social

I like Minecraft

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atocci,
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atocci,
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Oh, the statement I linked above is their official stance. It's on mastodon.world but the same admin also runs lemmy.world.

atocci,
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That's odd, I can see it when I check from lemmy.world, so it definitely federated. Here it is as plain text though https://mastodon.world/@mwadmin/111586575027739169

atocci,
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Name checks out

atocci, (edited )
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Why french fries? What's the context...?

atocci,
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That doesn't really apply to Lemmy's content though, since unlike Lemmy.world, Threads users won't be able to create /c/ communities. If a Threads user wants to post to a community in a way that Lemmy recognizes them, they'll have to post it to one under a Lemmy instance's control, or Lemmy users won't see a thing.

atocci,
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Truly one of the products of all time

A case for preemptively defederating with Threads (kbin.social)

With Meta beginning to test federation, there's a lot of discussion as to whether we should preemptively defederate with Threads. I made a post about the question, and it seems that opinions differ a lot among people on Kbin. There were a lot of arguments for and against regarding ads, privacy, and content quality, but I don't...

atocci,
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I would like to make a few counterpoints to yours from the opposite perspective.

To your first point: Nearly everyone here came from Reddit's API fiasco. We all already left the place that housed the vast majority of the content and went somewhere much slower and quieter. If Threads were to abandon ActivityPub in the future, we would still have the same users who are here now, and if returning the fediverse to it's current level of activity is to be considered a death sentence for it, wouldn't that mean we're already doomed? Things are stable right now though and we have enough activity to sustain a social network as is, so the loss of Threads content wouldn't be our downfall unless a majority of our current users decide its too quiet without them. However, I wouldn't expect the group who left all of Reddit's content behind to be the type who would also abandon their accounts here just because the Threads users aren't here again.

As for the second and third points, the beauty of ActivityPub is that it allows users to choose the services they want to use in order to access the same content across the fediverse, and it wouldn't be right for us to try to dictate how others choose to access an open protocol. If someone who is interested in joining the network decides to do so through Threads, that should be their choice to make, even though I personally think its the wrong one. In all likelihood though, someone making an account on Threads wouldn't have consciously joined the wider fediverse of their own volition anyway. Once they're on though and have a chance to maybe learn a little about these "third party services" they see, they'll make their way to these places instead. Exposure to the fediverse is the best way to understand it from my experience. There have also been a whole host of people who already signed up for Mastodon accounts without understanding a thing about what a federated network entails, they just wanted out of Twitter.

I don't think its right to view ActivityPub as competition to mainstream social media networks, it's a tool meant to help build a better unified social media network. If we limit who can use the tool, we'll only be hindering the growth of the fediverse.

box464, to random
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The proliferation of is exciting. But don't dismiss those that want to defederate with corporate socials. The was built by individuals escaping the harassment they faced on those platforms.

If you don't agree with your server admin's decision to federate with a specific domain, you can block it on your own. You have the power!

This seems preferable to an admin making the decision for all users.

Are there loopholes I'm not aware of here?

https://docs.joinmastodon.org/user/moderating/#block-domain

atocci,
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@box464 It's unintuitive right now, but you have to first go to that domain's page on kbin.social and click the block 🚫 button in the sidebar. I'm not sure if it blocks users from that domain or just posts with links to that domain though. For example, here's mastodon.social's page, and the block button is in the sidebar.

@sour

atocci,
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It always weirds me out that antlers just fall off. Like, bone isn't supposed to do that for us. What if we randomly shed bones every year?

atocci,
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I honestly want it. I want to follow people who have Threads accounts without needing a Threads account myself. I want more people in the fediverse and I don't care what platform they're using to access it because I'll be on kbin.

If Meta one day decides to leave ActivityPub, that's fine with me because I'll still be here on kbin with all the same people who are here now who also would never use Threads.

atocci,
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That's not really how ActivityPub works though, there's no pulling. They wouldn't be accessing kbin and downloading it's data, it's a push system. We would be pushing copies of our data out to Threads like we do now with all the other ActivityPub services. Threads would then distribute that data to it's users with no extra work on kbin's part. It would just be one more instance in addition to the thousands of instances already out there.

People bring up the XMPP Google situation a lot also, but I think it's a bad analogy for this. Google's adoption of XMPP brought people into the protocol and Google abandoning it took those same people away. Those who were using it before Google could still use it after Google. Anybody who left XMPP to follow Google did it because XMPP failed to adapt to the features people wanted. Thats why we have Matrix now instead.

atocci,
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How would power be handed to Meta just because Threads has more users? The communities are under the control of the instances where they were created, and Threads users couldn't create larger communities to replace them either since it's only a microblogging platform.

atocci,
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I would be... Anything I put on here, I know kbin.social will be sending out to thousands of other instances, and what those instances do with my content and how it's displayed is completely out of my control. That's just the nature of ActivityPub, and by posting here I think I have to be okay with that. There are already ActivityPub services that run ads, so it's not unique to Threads either.

atocci,
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If they pull the plug on ActivityPub and take their users back, things would just be exactly how they are now. Since they can't create communities or magazines like we can (and it's very unlikely Meta is going to try to implement this), if they want to participate in discussion here, they'll be posting in our communities. Kbin's magazines are uniquely suited to this as well because content gets sorted into them based on hashtags, so they wouldn't even need to know that they're posting to a magazine to do it.

We're already in a situation like you describe though with lemmy.world's near monopoly on large communities, which seems concerning to me as is.

atocci,
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Just to clarify what I mean, lemmy.world's position is bad for the threadiverse as a whole. It's where most of our users and largest communities we all post to are. If .world goes down, it'd be a major blow to our current, mostly stable, position and we'd be significantly worse off than if Meta were to come and go. Things are improving though and communities are slowly spreading to other instances! I also deeply appreciate that we have kbin as an alternative to Lemmy - thank you Ernest

atocci,
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How the fuck do I see who's online on a server now that I can't open the drawer on the right anymore? I don't use Discord much but I could figure it out.

atocci,
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That is definitely not the place I would expect that to have been, thank you

atocci,
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It's not clear though, because if I reminder correctly, tapping channel names before this update would give you information related to the channel, didn't it?

atocci,
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I've gone back to using my 7 Pro this week as the Fold 4 I upgraded to needs to be repaired only a year after I got it. It works perfectly fine still, and the popup camera is still popping up 4 years later. I had to flash Lineage OS on it to get Android 13 though since the last update OnePlus pushed out was Android 12 and I really disliked their new skin.

atocci,
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That sounds exactly like what what Nothing Chats was shamed for a couple weeks ago, how has Beeper been fairing so well?

atocci,
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So it really is the exact same thing as Nothing Chats then? I don't think I trust them any more than Sunbird...

atocci,
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That makes sense I suppose. A company that doesn't outright lie about how their service works would have more goodwill behind it, wouldn't it.

atocci,
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Freesia - (K)NoW_NAME has been an obsession for a while now. It might be my new favorite song?

atocci,
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I've never thought about this before, I guess I use fingertip though. I just kinda move the mouse around using mostly my thumb and pinky finger.

atocci,
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YouTube has this thing where you can set multiple thumbnails (it will show a different one every time YouTube displays it) and see which one gets the most clicks, then use that one.

atocci,
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It's so weird, it's like they want to keep people away more than anything else

BruceTwarzen, to asklemmy

Is there a Spotify alternative that has no ads?

I pay for Spotify for 7 years or so now and i'm so sick of all the ads. After every update there seems to be an: oops, sorry, you have ads now. Podcasts are filled with ads. I was just listening to a podcast where they shoved in 3 ads mid-sentence. How long until musicians put ads in their songs. I'm just so sick of it.

atocci,
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@BruceTwarzen I think Amazon Music offers ad-free versions of certain podcasts that partner with them if you have an Amazon Music subscription. Since the ads are usually inserted into the audio track by the podcast's creators themselves, the distribution platforms don't have control over where they are placed.

atocci,
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You're right about that. You can still access game streaming on iOS through the PWA though.

atocci,
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I guess it needs a cable though, and Phone Link is wireless?

atocci,
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My Asus laptop came with their own version of this preinstalled. I had to install the corresponding app on my phone, but when I tried it out, I had no noticeable amount of latency for anything you would use a webcam for. It was over a relatively fast WiFi 6 connection though.

nixCraft, to random
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They said by 2020, there won't be any IPv4 left, but the reality is..

atocci,
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@nixCraft How haven't we run out yet and why is it still used? I don't understand the reluctance to move on.

atocci,
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I don't understand, they got temp banned from one sub and quit Lemmy?

atocci,
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Aside from the fact it's a greentext and probably fake, I could understand recognizing a face from a movie or something and still not knowing who they are.

TechConnectify, to random
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I made a video on the popcorn button controversy
https://youtu.be/Limpr1L8Pss

atocci,
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@gigabecquerel Looks like you've got one of the bad buttons 😓

atocci,
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Apparently there is. It's called Theatrical and it's one of the most complex mods I've ever seen!

atocci,
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The more I look into it, the more insane this mod is. You can control your whole network of lights with items in the game, or you can link your in-game lighting network to the actual professional theatrical lighting software of your choice over a LAN-based DMX512 connection and practice real-life lighting controls or produce an entire light show in Minecraft.

atocci,
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You can use system-wide VPNs on Android without root

atocci,
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It doesn't play super nice with foldable phones. The UI doesn't adapt correctly without restarting the app and you end up with a very dense interface of overlapping buttons if you try going from open to closed. The address bar becomes completely blocked by all the extra buttons from the tablet layout, so the app is unusable.

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