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Klypto, in [2022] ‘Publishing is not a crime’: media groups urge US to drop Julian Assange charges. First outlets to publish WikiLeaks material, including the Guardian, come together to oppose prosecution

Title is a pretty dumb take.

Publishing is not a crime, which is correct.

I cannot be charged with a crime for making posts on Reddit, Lemmy or wiki pages. (I absolutely can be charged by publishing to wiki leaks though under agreements)

Publishing classified information is treason under Title 18 of the U.S. Code, Section 798

This is just stupidly obvious.

The only good thing he did was bring to focus the problem with over classification of information. We now have Controlled Unclassified Information thanks to that.

HumanPenguin,
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

Makes one wonder why the US needed to reopen a closed Swiss rape allagation rather then the obvious facts you state. To convince an allied nation to extradite then?

Its fairly clear that the law is a little less direct then you claim when talking extradition.

oahi,

(Swedish =/= Swiss.)

HumanPenguin,
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

Opps.

Honestly i do tend to muddle them up. Also been a few years so will use that as an excuse. Lame one but ah.

Klypto,

Correct on that last part.

Why should foreign nations care about US laws? Any extradition by any nation is a courtesy at best.

However it is ludicrous to say US should drop charges.

HumanPenguin, (edited )
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

Bit more then a curtasy as we have treaties to ensure rules.

But the UK will only do so if it is also a crime here. And not if the death sentence is likely. As our laws prohibit rhat. (For now).

But it is interesting that tue garedian and telegraph also published this data. And the US is ignoring them. Seems more of a power play against the idea of wiki lwaks then any actual risk to the US.

oahi,

Publishing classified information is treason

Tell that to the Guardian and the New York Times, who publish classified information routinely.

Oh, wait, seems like they got the message when they read the Assange indictment and wrote a whole editorial about how it threatens the 1st Amendment of (I’ll assume you’re from the US) your constitution.

Klypto, (edited )

Those newspapers did not sign a legally binding SF312 CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT of which every single person who holds a clearance must sign.

The very first sentence is:

Intending to be legally bound, I hereby accept the obligations contained in this Agreement in consideration of my being granted access to classified information.

Other parts being

I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information

In addition, I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation, or violations, of United States criminal laws, including the provisions of sections 641, 793, 794, 798, *952 and 1924, title 18, United States Code; *the provisions of section 783(b}, title 50, United States Code; and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. I recognize that nothing in this Agreement constitutes a waiver by the United States of the right to prosecute me for any statutory violation.

Unless and until I am released in writing by an authorized representative of the United States Government, I understand that all conditions and obligations imposed upon me by this Agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified information, and at all times thereafter.

This contract is binding FOR LIFE unless waived by an official.

gsa.gov/…/classified-information-nondisclosure-ag…

oahi,

Those newspapers did not sign a legally binding SF312 CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT of which every single person who holds a clearance must sign.

Neither did WikiLeaks doi

Klypto,

You mean the site co-founded by Assange who signed a SF312?

oahi,

That’s a lie. Of course they didn’t. Nobody says they did.

Potatofish, in Disapproval rate for Japanese Cabinet highest since 1947: Mainichi poll

So weird! I would have thought throwing more old Japanese men at the problem would help.

highenergyphysics,

Nono, trust me we just need to elect more conservatives bro trust me just one more conservative and we will make Nippon great again

TheAnonymouseJoker, in Israel should make Gaza look like Auschwitz - council head
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

So Jews can cause what they were once victims of? Genocide? That must be shattering a lot of Western liberals’ hearts… or maybe they are just fascists in sheep skinned ideology?

KISSmyOS, in What’s Up With Germany’s Pro-Israel ‘Left’? | Novara Media

Hmm, I wonder why the German left would be sympathetic to the Jews having a secure homeland where they aren’t attacked by people who deny their right to exist.

deegeese,

Yes, but you’d also expect Germans to speak up against perpetrators of genocide.

Zagorath,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

You’d expect Jewish people to do the same, and yet here we are…

TexMexBazooka,

Some are. Some arent.

bartolomeo,

They are, and they have been going to jail.

theguardian.com/…/jewish-protest-israel-gaza-wash…

In Germany, though, there is “a new kind of McCarthyism” surrounding opposing genocide and war crimes when the perpetrator is Israel.

latimes.com/…/germany-israel-gaza-antisemitism-ho…

That’s the whole point.

rcbrk,
OurToothbrush,

Sure, in a hypothetical reality where denazification was successful.

PanArab,
@PanArab@lemmy.ml avatar

“There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

If you wanted Jews to be secure, Palestine isn’t the place. It is already has its own people, the Palestinians.

oahi, (edited )
InEnduringGrowStrong,
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oahi,

Thank you.

krolden,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Lmk when you figure out why

jordanlund, in Israel should make Gaza look like Auschwitz - council head
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus Christ… I used to joke about “you know, it’s only a matter of time before some asshole Israeli starts talking about a ‘final solution’ to ‘the Palestinian problem.’” But here we are…

fartsparkles, in [2022] ‘Publishing is not a crime’: media groups urge US to drop Julian Assange charges. First outlets to publish WikiLeaks material, including the Guardian, come together to oppose prosecution

An article over a year old isn’t “news”…

oahi,

Until the US drops the charges it’s relevant to Julian’s imminent extradition from the UK. Was it posted here when it was published? It might be news to some. Where do you suggest I post it instead?

fartsparkles,

Probably a community that isn’t about recent events?

Shalakushka,
@Shalakushka@kbin.social avatar

Somewhere where people are more sympathetic to Russian assets

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. I was about to unleash a “too little too late “ rant.

PrinceWith999Enemies, in Exclusive: the X Files – how Elon Musk’s new rules allow hate to flourish

businesspost.ie

I wonder if it leaked from one of their support centers in Ireland.

Drusas, in Exclusive: the X Files – how Elon Musk’s new rules allow hate to flourish

Do not sully that name. The X-Files is sacrosanct.

ShaggySnacks, in Exclusive: the X Files – how Elon Musk’s new rules allow hate to flourish

TLDR - Shit bag CEO, pushes shit bag policies to support hate.

kandoh, in Jeffrey Epstein Never Stopped Abusing Women—and His VIP Circle Helped Make It Possible

Pretty sure he was a CIA honey pot, so his circle definitely enabled him

Granite, in Exclusive: the X Files – how Elon Musk’s new rules allow hate to flourish
@Granite@kbin.social avatar

How long until Apple kicks them off the App Store?

pineapplelover, in Israeli forces kill two Christian women in ‘cold blood’ inside Gaza church

I wonder what the right has to say about this.

Krause, in Israeli forces kill two Christian women in ‘cold blood’ inside Gaza church
@Krause@lemmygrad.ml avatar

that’s horrible, they should go back to just spitting at them instead

or perhaps israel needs to stop existing and the settlers shipped back to europe/america

CollisionResistance, in Israel should make Gaza look like Auschwitz - council head
@CollisionResistance@lemmy.world avatar
ImTryingLemmy, in Israel should make Gaza look like Auschwitz - council head

Wow, he said it out loud. I mean, looking at it from the outside it sure looks like they are trying to level it but goddamn, that dude actually SAID it.

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