Does Israel even need these shells or this just performative? It does not look like anything is practically hindering their Gaza operations besides dense urban environment and hostile population.
Ukraine is stuck with a stalemate due lack of artillery shells, not much will move until that changes.
On my feed this article appears immediately next to an article that the US bypassed congressional authorization to send more “emergency” ammunition to Israel.
The majority of the people killed by these weapons are civilians. The US is complicit in war crimes.
We’re all just supposed to pretend like Israel isn’t the weirdest country on the planet. You’d think the term “religious ethnostate” would say all that needs to be said, but no, somehow seemingly normal, sane people think there is nothing wrong with it and in fact encourage it…
Rape is always used in war, and always used as an excuse for escalation, and never really cared about by the men in power.
The question shouldn’t be whether rape is happening; it should be what kind of scum cynically uses that as an excuse to bomb shit harder when they don’t give a fuck about actual rape victims?
That’s not useful, that’s not helpful, that’s not smart, that’s not having a “nuanced understanding”, that’s cynical minimization of unwarranted violence and horrible crimes against civilians.
It shift the blame of warcrimes on a cynical and frankly halfassed “that’s just how it is” kind of “explanation” and minimise the responsibility of the culprit.
You can’t just say that both sides of a conflict always do this and handwave it as if it was some kind of universal law, if you want to claim that, you need to prove it.
Yes, erase the history there. That way people are no longer reminded of it either.
Isn’t putting a nice statue to the woman (giving her a name and a face) with a plaque explaining why the street has its name not a better solution. Instead of erasing it showing people that some of the things we hold dear don’t nessecarilily are because of nice things.
Or actually name the street after the woman’s real name (if we know it)
Since Ariel Sharon, conservative ideologies have been deeply ingrained in Israeli politics, and Netanyahu’s resignation may not bring about a fundamental shift in this longstanding trend.
The political landscape has been characterized by continuity, and despite changes in leadership, the core ideologies often persist. The implications for the lives of Israelis and Palestinians might not undergo a substantial transformation.
Hamas did nothing wrong. It exists in response to Israeli aggression. I promise you this, even if Hamas goes away, Palestinians and other Arabs will continue to resist. Israel has created far more enemies with its ongoing genocide in Gaza, they will forever be pariahs and will forever be at war with us.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
About the Hamas part: AFAIK October 7th was mainly a military attack against legitimate military targets with military goals, with the (very much undeniable, don't get me wrong) atrocities committed being individual action that hasn't been proven to come from the top, If I'm not wrong about that understanding I don't see how Hamas and Israel can be put in the same position here.
They still killed a bunch of innocents. You can not deny that, if Hamas actually had a problem with it, then they should surrender everyone who killed innocents.
Do that, and maybe we can talk.
10/7 was a terrorist attack against civilians, the blow back has disproportionately affected innocent Palestinians.
Don’t defend terrorists.
If a legitimate army had soldiers that did that they would make a VERY public display of what happens to people who attack innocent people at a music festival and release videos of them going house to house in a settlement.
I have seen the pictures and videos from both sides and they are both indefensible.
I’m waiting for the IOF to make a very public display of the apache gunners who shot indiscriminately at the festival, or the tank commanders firing indiscriminately at homes in the kibbutzim. Your argument falls flat when the Israeli army not only is killing thousands of civilians in Gaza (and are proud of it btw), but also their own citizens on Oct 7.
You can not deny that, if Hamas actually had a problem with it, then they should surrender everyone who killed innocents.
Yeah they probably don't have a problem with it, that's true enough and can't be defended. But they didn't go "we should go there and kill civilians", is what I mean. Some people have that impression about the attack and that's playing right into Israel's hands. Unfortunately punishing soldiers who commit warcrimes is a standard neither side is trying to reach.
Also, from what we know the music festival wasn't a one-sided Hamas massacre; there was combat with the IDF and many of the people who died died in the crossfire. Not saying there weren't people who killed innocents (particularly the guy who threw that one grenade should be hanged), but the image that Hamas went in guns blazing and killed a bunch of people is at this point in time plain Israeli propaganda that spread before the details were known.
Yes. Unless you have hard numbers or evidence Hamas leadership intended to cause civilian casualties we go with innocent until proven guilty. I mean hell why would the leadership want innocents killed? That's just bad press, and they're more useful as hostages.
Yeah, so you’re completely unaware or trolling, I can’t tell. Hamas has been launching rockets into civilian area indiscriminately since forever. Hamas has sent suicide bombers into public areas with civilians for the past last thirty years. The attack on the music festival with two hundred teens and young adults killed was not the act of some lone wolf. Please tell me you’re trolling because I can’t believe people are this uninformed.
I was talking about the current attack. And the music festival is still strictly in fog of war territory. There are people Hamas soldiers killed, that's undeniable, but there are also people who were killed by reckless IDF fire and people who simply died in the crossfire.
We have at least some numbers. Last I checked (which I admit was weeks ago) the death toll in Gaza was 11,000 and Israel claimed to have killed 60-80 Hamas fighters. That’s over 99% civilian deaths, and we know a significan portion of those are children. On October 7th, Palestinian militant groups killed about 1,200 people in Israel, 859 of them civilians. That’s over 71% civilian deaths, ignoring the fact that most Israeli adults are reservists and so trained fighters.
I meant civilians people who were intentionally killed by Hamas (there's a significant number people who died in the crossfire or to reckless IDF fire), but yeah this too.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
Nice strawman…because there’s a single person alive that accused the children and babies right? How pathetically ignorant. But you then ignore when those people you’re defending strap bombs to those children don’t you?
Both sides are shitty. One side is being significantly more shitty without restraint. If you look at numbers, one side is doing considerably more harm than the other. If you look at individual acts of shittiness, then sure, under that squinted framing, both sides are equal.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
These protest have been going on for years.
The idea that Israelis generally support him is part of his media narrative, not reality.
The fact that the protests were getting bigger and louder before 7.10 is another reason war was allowed to happen (it keeps people distracted and united against an enemy that isn't him, and the results are instant - many already saying to wait with holding him accountable until "after the war" as if he wouldn't start another or make this one last until he made sure he couldn't be removed).
When he went to visit the front lines, he didn't only refuse to meat, but expelled reservists who were called in to duty who were known to be at protests or signed letters against him.
They have now also made it legal to shoot protestors with live ammo and arrest anyone suspected of "interfering with military operation" (this is mostly to target Palestinians and Arab-Israelis, but also Jewish protestors)
The Israeli government doesn't represent the Israeli people.
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