threelonmusketeers,

Have they eliminated the need for sodium to be molten in sodium batteries? If so, that’s great news!

kalkulat,
@kalkulat@lemmy.world avatar

IIRC sodium is the -cathode- in the battery. No molten (RU thinking of reactors?)

Gregorech,

So the answer to the question about what to do with the excess salt from desalination plants, is make batteries?

kalkulat,
@kalkulat@lemmy.world avatar

Good point !

Gregorech,

Now we just need a lot of swimming pools for the chloride.

TenderfootGungi,

BYD is supposedly bringing them to production.

cleantechnica.com/…/the-sodium-ion-battery-is-com…

topinambour_rex,
@topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

They are already in production, and sold to consumer, since few days. A french start up is selling an electric screwdriver with a sodium battery.

terminhell,

Can we eat them?

jbloggs777,

Battery-licking good!

SkaveRat,

At least once, yes

Buffalox,

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  • Thalion,

    Because we’re speaking English, not Latin?

    captainlezbian,

    Quare loquimur anglicus?

    db2,

    Toccare!

    RojoSanIchiban, (edited )

    Romani ite domum!

    Pons_Aelius,

    What's that supossed to say?

    RojoSanIchiban,

    Well it would have said “Romani ite domum” if I didn’t typo that.

    At least I didn’t write it as “Romanes eunt domus” like some weirdo.

    (It’s a Monty Python reference)

    marsokod,
    @marsokod@lemmy.world avatar

    Most likely because the news is in English. And why would Natrium be better on an international forum?

    It is Sodium in most Latin languages (despite Natrium being Latin), in Hindi and in Arabic. And Chinese has a different root. Among the 10 most spoken languages (according to Wikipedia), only Russian is using Natrium.

    Buffalox,

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  • n2burns,

    As a native English speaker, I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone call NaCl just “Sodium”, it’s always called “Sodium Chloride”.

    marsokod,
    @marsokod@lemmy.world avatar

    I always said salt, of sodium chloride for NaCl. Who is using sodium for table salt? The only time I heard that associated was when saying that table salt is a source of sodium, which is true.

    doctorspike,

    I’m a PhD candidate in chemistry. I’ve never once seen sodium refer to the salt, sodium chloride. Sodium is the metallic form or the atom.

    However, why sodium, tungsten, lead, antimony, tin, silver, gold, mercury, iron, and potassium and not their Latin forms? Natrium, wolfram, plumbum, stibium, stannum, argentum, aurum, hydrargyrum, Ferrum and kalium? I don’t really know. Mostly it’s just fun trivia for me to tell the undergrads.

    squiblet,
    @squiblet@kbin.social avatar

    I’ve never heard natrium before. I guess I could learn. We could also call pineapples ananas.

    db2,
    EmperorHenry,
    @EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    As a flashlight enthusiast, I’d be very interested to see if sodium batteries are any better.

    mihnt,
    @mihnt@lemmy.world avatar

    Was just reading through the articles I could find about it and it seems you can’t make cylindrical batteries with it. Which sucks for existing flashlights. I’m sure if the tech ever picks up some other shape of flashlight could be made.

    They also seem to have less capacity overall.

    db2,

    Just make a flat battery and roll it up. 🧌

    IHeartBadCode,
    @IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

    Material scientists hate this one trick.

    EmperorHenry,
    @EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Well I’m all about developing new technology and allowing the very best to sell the most.

    Maybe someday in the future there will be an alternative to lithium batteries that really is better. But as you said, Sodium batteries aren’t as good.

    mihnt,
    @mihnt@lemmy.world avatar

    At the moment they aren’t up to par with lithium. The tech is still developing though. So maybe one day they will catch up.

    topinambour_rex,
    @topinambour_rex@lemmy.world avatar

    All depend on which point you compare. Because for charging, sodium win over lithium.

    RaoulDook,

    They are actually better than Lithium in several ways. Sodium batteries have most of the capacity of Lithium batteries by weight, around 80% if I recall. But what they have to offer is being completely non-flammable, tolerant to wider temperature ranges, and they are made of materials that are cheap and abundant almost everywhere. It’s much better than having to source Lithium and Cobalt.

    We could put Sodium batteries everywhere to power the grid since they are super safe, should be fine outdoors even.

    Usernameblankface,
    @Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

    Ok, so that sounds good for grid size battery packs and backyard generator replacements as well as indoor wall packs.

    capital,

    And like 80% of car trips.

    Usernameblankface,
    @Usernameblankface@lemmy.world avatar

    Yes! It would be great for a cheap daily commuter.

    cmnybo,

    There are cylindrical cells available. The capacity is pretty low, 18650 cells are around 1.5AH and 26700 cells are around 3.5AH. They discharge down to 1.5V, so you will get less capacity if you use them in something designed for lithium cells.

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