aniki,

Is this trolling?

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King4408,

From “Windows 10 will be the last windows” to this.

QuarterSwede,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”

So it’s like search on iOS. Not always what I want but if it makes windows search useful then maybe it won’t be so bad.

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Seriously, I almost never navigate the menu anymore. I hit the windows key on my keyboard and start type the app name, or setting I want to change, then hit enter when the autocomplete is right. Gmail came along with labels replacing folders, then iTunes and iPhoto organizing your media by its metadata. I would hate going back to having to organize folders and menus again.

dbilitated,
@dbilitated@aussie.zone avatar

yeah they didn’t say they were removing the start menu, they just said the new feature will be as central to the user experience. and predictably every reply is “lol STUPID MICRO$HIT”

people really want something to be mad about

BirdyBoogleBop,

Okay. If 12 is coming out why would anyone go with 11?

PeepinGoodArgs,

Well I’m still using 10 so…

ArtVandelay,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

Why not just make 10 louder?

SpicyLizards,

So now I can use an AI to find notepad++ on bing?

Fungah,

No. Search isn’t for finish g what you want anymore… common misconception.

cori,

No, silly! You use AI to find sponsored ads on Bing! You don’t need notepad++ to CONSUME

mindlight, (edited )

They won’t. They do however want to stay relevant and will float things like this just to create talk about Microsoft and Windows.

You know what’s really interesting to talk about? How fast it was for me to setup Chimeraos on a PC with an Intel GPU and hook it up to my tv and Xbox wireless controller USB dongle… First boot and I login to Steam and BAM! Grab that controller. Time for couch gaming

Windows is nowhere near that good or easy as a game station for coach gaming.

dynamo,

Windows 10 is my last windows. When i upgrade my destop i’m going Mint

Average,
@Average@lemmy.world avatar

Im waiting for something like silverblue and flatpaks to mature before moving.

trevor,

projectbluefin.io takes silverblue and adds many of the things that you were likely to be waiting for. It did for me.

digger,
@digger@lemmy.ca avatar

Why not come join us now?

dynamo,

Well, my laptop’s already there, but i really don’t feel like dealing with system reinstallation on my games pc. It’ll be much easier for me to just stick with W10 for the next few months, and then jump ship, seeing as the upgrade i have planned won’t be using any components from my dekstop.

scottywh,

Mint is great.

I really like it with the Maté DE.

Llewellyn,

But trying to make cloud filesystems work is a pain in the ass

Bulletdust,

Insync takes care of that. I even use Insync on Windows PC’s as it’s better than native cloud syncing apps from the likes of Google and Microsoft.

theangryseal,

Linux is my daily driver. I used to struggle with it but it’s on point these days. Proton takes care of 90% of the gaming issues.

I can’t imagine ever going back to windows, I really can’t.

NotMyOldRedditName,

Do games work on proton on release day, or does it take work by the community or someone to get new games working?

TheOSINTguy,

I’ve had good experience with it, just make sure to use proton experimental if it’s a new release.

dynamo,

I mean, i only ever use my current desktop for games. My laptop where i do basically everything else is already running mint.

query,

Windows 7 is my last Windows. Windows 10 is my current Windows. Looks like a safe bet to keep skipping at least one version. I did also go from XP to 7.

archonet,

Microsoft why are you trying to pull an Elon and destroy your own brand, stop that – what, after all, has a dedicated keyboard key on Windows keyboards, and has for decades?

hdnsmbt,

They’re not. It’s just the author’s “creativity”. There’s no indication of plans to change the start button. Still, they could change the start button, which apparently warrants a misleading article people actually discuss.

Drbreen,

This sounds great, I hope they do it!

bandario,
@bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No thank you. Startallisback to the rescue. Ghost spectre to remove whatever bullshit they put in this time.

I’m not against progress, I just prefer my computer to leave the thinking to me.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Or at least leave the thinking on the client side.

jenny_ball,
@jenny_ball@lemmy.world avatar

classic shell ui also

hdnsmbt,

“All the apps that revert things to the way I’m used to to the rescue! I’m not against change, believe me!”

bandario,
@bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I have embraced all the good parts of Windows 11. I will continue to cut out the telemetry and other creepy elements like the cancer that it is.

hdnsmbt,

I believe you. StartAllBack which only makes UI changes and nothing else may not have been the best example, though.

Gestrid,

I don’t want to go back to Windows 8. Those were… dark times…

hai,
@hai@lemmy.ml avatar

How many times has Windows tried to kill off the start menu!? I can think of at least three:

  • Windows 8
  • Windows 10’s funky live tiles thing (by default).
  • This strange Windows 12 AI junk
hdnsmbt, (edited )

Windows 10 didn’t have live tiles, that was 8.

Windows 12 is not a product that exists and there are no plans to replace the start button.

You can think of one.

doggle,

Windows 10 did have tiles at first, but they were corralled into the top of the start menu iirc. And… Did you not read the article?

hdnsmbt,

they were corralled into the top of the start menu

Sounds like they didn’t try to “kill of the start menu”, then.

And… Did you not read the article?

I… Did read the article which is why I know it’s just got a clickbait headline and there are no plans to replace the start button. Did… you not read the article?

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

I’m here for it as a snobby Linux user. Let’s see how much the average windows user is willing to let their experience be degraded before they finally tap out and try an operating system that isn’t pure trash

only0218,

What’s next, Android like Launcher? And screw you for trying to open loose files! >! /s !<

specterspectre,

Oh boy. That thing is the steering wheel of the Windows system.

twack,

I mean… Yea. Yea it is. They want to:

  1. Fill the thing with ads
  2. Control the entire user experience
  3. Track everything you do in that experience
  4. Prevent users from accessing any low level system changes
  5. Fill the thing with ads

They’re not even being subtle about it:

“The Copilot is like the Start button,” Nadella explains. “It becomes the orchestrator of all your app experiences. So for example, I just go there and express my intent and it either navigates me to an application or it brings the application to the Copilot, so it helps me learn, query and create — and completely changes, I think, the user habits.”

specterspectre,

Yup on 4. Mess at all with the hostfile and Windows Defende won’t stop harassing you about a threat. User autonomy is a threat to Windows.

doggle,

That’s exactly why they want control of it

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