headset,

Oh look! This shit again. Lemmy is becoming more repetitive than 4chan

sugartits,

be me.

reading lemmy

see yet again that YouTube is blocking ads

see the entitlement in the comments that seem to think YouTube should be both free of ads and free to use and that Google should subsidize it for some reason

post my copy-paste comment reiterating that YouTube is a business and not a charity

see comments from idiots that attack the commenter instead of actually trying to argue against the point or come up with any sane solution or any attempt to advance the conversation

realise people just want the labour of others for free

sadface.jpg

See you again next week, fren.

BigDanishGuy,

Su pasta es mi pasta, I’m using that from now on

Robaque,

If you do that you’re stealing their labor

BigDanishGuy,

I sure am a rascal

racemaniac,

I’m willing to engage this discussion with you :).

I don’t believe i’m entitled to any labor for free, but i do oppose the mechanic of huge corporations starting with good & free services, and when they then become a monopoly, suddenly i’m “entitled and want labor for free and an idiot” when i don’t agree with all the enshittification, money grabbing, privacy violations, and everything else they think they can get away with.

If you start a service with a certain premise (it being free, little ads, …), and then once you’re a monopoly and want some extra money start changing all that, while making sure any competition has as little chance as possible to challenge you… yeah, good luck with that XD.

And i’ll make a predition, give it 5 years at most before game passes go through this phase. Currently all the gamers are “wow, these are such good value”, once it gives the publishers enough of an excuse to stop allowing you to buy them, watch the same fragmentation & raised prices, enshittification, possibly even advertising getting added to it once you’re stuck using such a system.

I don’t believe i’m “entitled”, but i won’t support such tactics & monopoly abuse. They came to power by pretending to be a free site to share videos on, and they’ll die that way as far as i’m concerned. Good riddance.

Byter,

Thank you for calling this aspect out. I’m surprised so many people are overlooking it. I protest YouTube for the same reasons, but I’ve got one more to add.

When they merged Google Music into YouTube, the service became worse. I’d often have music streaming throughout the day over my speakers, but that broke after the merge.

Anytime I watched a video on my phone that had Content ID-recognized music in it (even in the background), they would cut the stream to my speakers because I am only allowed one stream with any music in it at all.

This isn’t the behavior when you use the ad supported service. Only the paid.

Not to mention all the proper features of Google Music that didn’t carry forward.

Robaque,

Average lemmy.world user

Chickenstalker,

> try to do meme arrows

> fail

Jej

nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN,

It’s mostly that the multi billion dollar profit organisation didn’t need to do this. Where does that money go? Even though it’s over the back of the labour and time of both the content creators and people watching.

Google is doing 60 billion dollar profit fine. Thanks. And not paying proper tax either, lol. It’s pure extraction of labour value.

Get mad at that.

Devouring,

You mean people shouldn’t chase that sweet, sweet fake internet score?

yata,

It isn’t blocking my uBlock Origin on Firefox.

MrFlamey,

Or mine on Vivaldi. It was showing me the notice the other week, but seems to have stopped now. Either they are now time limiting youtube before the ad blocking thing comes back, or uBlock upped the ante.

Gestrid,

Your uBlock probably updated. uBlock has pretty much been able to successfully block YouTube’s adblocker block since YouTube started blocking adblockers, so long as you kept the filters updated.

Magister,
@Magister@lemmy.world avatar

It does on mine, sometimes, so I clear cache, update uBlock, restart Firefox. In general it blocks them again

hydrospanner,

Yeah, all Google accomplished with this bullshit was finally getting me to switch from Chrome to Firefox as my main browser on desktop.

Alchemy,
@Alchemy@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty much, also encouraged me to download uBlock, and now I see how many items it blocks from pages like YouTube. Spoiler: It’s a lot.

hydrospanner,

Right?

I have two tabs open…one is a site that is overtly and actively promoting products to me, with literal links to retailers where I can buy the stuff they’re promoting…the other is YouTube.

The promotional site’s uBlock counter is at 4.

YouTube’s is at…139.

mjhelto,

Leave that YouTube tab open open for a day and see how many thousands of items uBlock has blocked.

SuperSpruce,

I see absolutely insane numbers on Google docs, 10000+ blocked. My total per year is now over 5 million. A lot more intense than a few years ago, where it took multiple years to reach 3 million.

mjhelto,

Wow I haven’t even looked for all time blocks! I’ll have to look…

mjhelto,

Holy shit, I have multiple tabs open and have only been using Firefox as my default browser for about 1.5 3-months (August 9th). Each YouTube tab has over 10k blocks and lifetime blocks since installation is over 4.1 million!

Edit: found the document I made in Obsidian to plan my move from Brave to Firefox and the created data is August 9th.

sweetviolentblush,
@sweetviolentblush@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yup, I left youtube up on my laptop all day today and this is ublocks total. It’s fucking crazy that some people don’t bother with adblockers

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/f99a1bf5-ba4d-4b7a-9224-34a0856baf9e.jpeg

Devouring, (edited )

Use grayjay.app

EDIT: I’m fascinated by the childishness of those who are complaining about the $10. Not only you don’t have to pay it, and not only that it’s open source, and not only the intentions are clear on why it’s not a permissive license made to fight filling average Joe with malware like always being done with NewPipe and others on Play Store, but also you can pick your poison. Would you like google to win this dumb war on ad blockers? Or would you like to support non-perfect people making FOSS apps for your benefit? I really don’t get you, guys. Pick your battles! Take the win and shut up for once!

matteblack,

…If you have Android and $10 to throw at the problem.

Devouring,

For the record, payment is optional.

hschen,
@hschen@sopuli.xyz avatar

Theres also NewPipe its free and open source

Withloveandloathing,

Absolutely good suggestion. Please check this out. Louis Rossman has a really in depth video with more information about the app on his channel

jack,

Proprietary garbage

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

It is at least source available. I prefer they didn’t use the license they’re using but it’s there right to do so.

For mobile it’s between using revanced, Grayjay or brave. At the moment I’m willing to use any one of the three that works on a given day.

jack,

On Android there’s also NewPipe and LibreTube

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

They are all welcome.

However, almost all these guys are using the same libraries under the hood. When Google breaks one you’re probably going to break most of them leaving us all scrambling to find the next way.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I see there’s a lot of negativity around GrayJay and their licensing and I don’t disagree; but there’s a battle going on here It’s Google against the world. Having private paid entities working on this alongside the FOSS efforts is definitely not a bad thing. The fact that they’re running source available means that other people can look at what they’re doing even if they can’t use their code directly.

wmassingham,

They can use the code directly. The license allows “review, compilation and non-commercial distribution”.

It doesn’t explicitly allow modification, but they do define “code” as “the code and any part of it and any derivative of it”, so clearly derivatives are expected.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

You “can” use the code directly.

But if you don’t you’re not bound by their license and can foss your work.

jack,

This must be the worst recommendation I’ve seen here

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Nooo. YouTube thinks it’s fully blocking ad blockers. In reality nothing’s changed.

CrowAirbrush,

It made an attempt for sure, a cute one at that 🤣

Albus,

Good try Youtube 👍🏼

Engywuck,

Do you REALLY think that Google is not able to block you altogether, if they really wanted to? The have permabanned entire companies and all the personal account of employees before for a misstep of one of these employees. It’s just a matter of time.

Albus,

“If they really wanted to?”, they already tried and ublock published a filter to block it back.

Engywuck,

TBH. I don’t think Google is using all of their firepower, yet.

Albus,

That could be true. But if they decide to do that, they are gonna need to invest a lot, and if they success they are gonna lose a lot of viewers. Because for the mayority of the people, when you are use to ads-free, going back to ads its wonna be very difficult.

MrAlpharius,

Firefox nightly working lime a charm. I would rather download any video I want to see than using the shitty native app.

Three one minute adds was enough for me.

Codandchips,
@Codandchips@lemmy.world avatar

UK Firefox user here… All good

Nacktmull,

Nope … at least not mine (adblock+)

Destraight,

Google chrome U block user here. Still works fine

sagrotan,
@sagrotan@lemmy.world avatar

No problems here whatsoever, I don’t know what everybody is talking about. Remember to donate some bucks to your favorite open source adblock (or piping app), thank you.

AngryCommieKender,

UBlock doesn’t accept donations.

github.com/…/Why-don't-you-accept-donations%3F

I would otherwise.

Centaur,

EU based Firefox + uBlock Origin user here. All very good :)

TSG_Asmodeus,
@TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

Canada based same, is this only happening on Chrome or something?

tehBishop,

Exact opposite here, no issues on chrome, blocked on Firefox.

TSG_Asmodeus,
@TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world avatar

Weird, I haven’t even gotten a warning yet.

Xylight,
@Xylight@lemdro.id avatar

I wish I could donate to ublock origin so badly. I never even saw the popup.

whome,

I didn’t know they don’t accept donations: github.com/…/Why-don't-you-accept-donations%3F

nossaquesapao,

They make some interesting points, though.

ours,

As asked by uBo’s creator: please donate to the list maintainers instead.

What a solid guy.

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I haven’t seen an ad on YouTube in several years. Doubt I’ll ever see one.

RampantParanoia2365,

… yes. I know because you’ve told me 25 times in the last week.

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