Clbull,

Shorts are fine. Only minor complaint is that they lack descriptions and play like shit on desktop. Some of us like to browse YouTube on a computer on occasion…

dipshit,

There are only about 100 shorts in total on youtube, it seems. I would get 1-100 and even though I’ve disliked all of them, or clicked “don’t show me this channel again”, It will start back at #1 after I reach 100. It’s really, really bad, and most of the shorts videos are advice on how to start a powerwashing business.

meekah,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

what? that’s not my experience with shorts at all. There are plenty of different shorts, and I have no repetition (aisde from the regular copycats). Maybe the algorithm is like “dont like what I’m giving you? well fuck you too” lol

frododouchebaggins,

That person is not being honest. They want us to believe they disliked 100 consecutive shorts and on 101 it looped back to the first short? A total lie.

meekah,
@meekah@lemmy.world avatar

I suspect the same, yes

UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN,

Youtube, Reddit and Twitter all have the same issue: greed. Greed is why these platforms are ruined.

docmark,

It’s the hustle culture that’s been ingrained into society at this point. Every industry has it now. Get in, make as much as possible (with little to no regard for others), get out, retire early.

After that just become an influencer showing off your lavish lifestyle for brand sponsorships for even more money.

Shit like Tiktok and Youtube Shorts are only making things worse, faster.

rexxit, (edited )

Get in, make as much as possible (with little to no regard for others), get out, retire early.

Arguably, this is what the American dream has become. It used to be we wanted middle class wealth, 2.1 kids, and a nice suburban house. But now all we want to do is sell out, retire, and never have to work again. I can relate, even if I lack the skills to play the game.

That’s where we got antiwork, FIRE, etc. It’s true: nobody wants to work anymore. I sure don’t. Maybe we never did.

Robaque,

Aka capitalists doin capitalism

cley_faye,

I wouldn’t know, I have an extensive set of modification over youtube that, among other thing, completely remove them from existence. Now if only I could do the same with the bad automatic translations…

It seems every new feature of youtube is something we have to fight against.

bob,

Tech has just reached the maturation point.

As with every industry, there’s a point where there’s enough growth for a win-win for the company and consumers, so consumers benefit with new features; once that dries up the company starts squeezing, so consumers endure new features and use the product despite the changes.

Siririus,
@Siririus@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Youtube just stopped being useful. Now it’s all republished TV and no personal expression. Totally boring.

ILikeBoobies,

A lot of channels exist for profit rather than being a hobby

But if you can find the small channels then it’s still worth it. It doesn’t help that you spend more time telling it not to recommend things than actually watching what it recommends

uranibaba,

Not sure how small/big of an audience he has but www.youtube.com/ does great Super Mario Maker content. I only ever watch his videos on YouTube, and nothing else.

oogles,

God damn, have you tried looking for crap that is not just the front page of YouTube not signed in? There are endless streams of amazing content that is incredibly educational or hilarious or mind blowing if you know where to look. People making new music of all different genres with insane levels of skill, people literally sharing PhD level knowledge for free. There are plenty of valid criticisms of YouTube as a platform, and there is certainly some crap content out there, but don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are tons of incredibly talented and inspired content creators out there on the platform.

Siririus,
@Siririus@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Can’t agree with a word said here.

MystikIncarnate,

Might ruin YouTube? Brother. It’s already ruined.

spiderman,

having no proper competitor is the only thing that’s still keeping youtube on the boat.

frododouchebaggins,

YouTube is far from ruined. There’s a ton of educational and information channels making high quality content. These are some of my favorites:

  • Throttle House (car reviews)
  • Savagegeese (car reviews)
  • Adam Ragusea (home chef)
  • Coffeezilla (independent journalist)
  • Dave2D (technology reviews)
  • Donut (car news, humor)
  • Food Wishes (pro chef)
  • Johnny Harris (independent journalist)
  • Louis Rossmann (tech repair and tech politics)
  • Skill Up (video game reviews)
  • SmarterEveryDay (science)
  • Veritasium (science)

Are these channels perfect? No. Nothing is perfect. But these channels easily justify paying for YouTube premium.

UnculturedSwine,

I ducking hate how they removed functionality from them. They don’t show when they were posted, you can’t speed them up or slow them down, they repeat forever which is annoying if your going through the comments, the buttons being on top of the video obscures it, I can’t cast them to the TV from my phone (which is weird because it will play them if I select them directly from the TV app), it’s just a terrible UX overall. I never swipe up and I’m starting to get annoyed with how cumbersome it is to exit out to watch regular videos once I’ve watched the short I clicked on. I really don’t understand why YouTube wants to sacrifice everything that makes it great to be more like tiktok. If I wanted that format, I would go to tiktok.

TwilightVulpine,

I’m not a fan of how little control there is over Shorts feeds and how they are set to repeat infinitely, but people are way too overly dramatic about Shorts. It seems like it’s culture shock more than anything.

funky_rodent,
@funky_rodent@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah some people want to be annoyed :D

I just blocked then in Firefox and carried on I Watch everything else through newpipe so I don’t even bother:)

gummybootpiloot,

I don’t think it’s going anywhere. People get lost in shorts really quickly, especially on your phone. It’s the algorithm being able to decide who you are and how to get engagement out of you at a much faster rate then regular videos.

Nobody asked for this, nobody wants it on youtube. But it keeps people on the platform longer and it feeds the algorithm fast. So it’s not going anywhere

whelk,
@whelk@lemm.ee avatar

Every time I see the little “new content” blip next to someone I’ve subscribed to and it ends up being a short, I feel cheated.

shiii,

yes i started unsubscribing some of the channels who publish daily shorts

mycorrhiza,

not only is the shorts UI shitty but the shorts themselves are often shitty imo, or at least the “scroll through shorts one at a time” linear format means you see a lot more videos you wouldn’t click on intentionally.

cubedsteaks,

I hate that I get such random shit in my feed when I really only look at art videos - like my scrolling should be nothing but people drawing but random shit like slime videos or some ass hat and his kid.

chuckd,

Yeah YouTube really likes to inject videos you wouldn’t normally watch into your algorithm. It’s pretty annoying. I would never seek out religious videos, and never have on YouTube, yet they keep making their way into my feed. Even voting them down doesn’t seem to change the frequency.

cubedsteaks,

For real. I’ve never searched a prank video in my life but they come up during shorts.

UnculturedSwine,

I watch shorts but I never swipe up. I pick which ones I want to watch.

rbos,
@rbos@lemmy.ca avatar

“No YouTube I do not want to watch Jordon Fucking Peterson. I will NEVER want that. Fuck all the way off.”

I stopped watching shorts because of the unwanted boosts of fascist content.

jrubal1462,

Silver lining: It gave me the opportunity to “dislike” Jordan Peterson, which was not an opportunity I previously had.

I mean, I guess I always HAD the option, but there’s something to be said about having somebody serve it up on a platter like that.

Silentiea,

Hey, boosts engagement, he’s happy all the same.

echodot,

The interface isn’t consistent between videos and shorts.

You can rewind and fast forward videos on phones by double tapping the left or right hand side of the video, but doing that on shorts just likes it.

lightnsfw,

I literally could not understand what half the ones I saw were even supposed to be about last time I went on YouTube. Like they were just random people doing shit with no punchline or point.

HawlSera,

As right as they are, I still can’t help but think “To be fair Youtube was ruined when you let Viacom write the playbook for it.”

phoenixz,

Shorts: just a normal YouTube video but it’s too short to be useful, and most useful functionality had been removed.you can’t skip ahead or go back if you didn’t hear something, you just have to watch it again and again.

Shorts is something a manager came up with. It doesn’t make it better, it makes it worse, but it also attracts more views, so profit!

scurry,

The article indicated that, apparently, Shorts is even more unprofitable than regular YouTube. So they don’t even have that going for them

lightnsfw,

I figured they were just ripping off tiktok seems to be the same kind of shit.

secret301,

I really think shorts should have a separate recommendation algorithm. Cause the type of videos I watch are way different than the shorts I watch but now my feed is changing

kent_eh,

As a viewer I agree with their assessment.

Shorts is (for me) a worse viewing experience and it’s just more useless junk tha clutter up my youtube main page.

ipkpjersi,

That’s why I have a Firefox extension that automatically redirects from shorts. Although, if Google’s new Web Environment Integrity goes through I guess I could kiss stuff like that goodbye.

Based_and_Cool,

I don’t disagree but there are some channels that do great shorts. For example check out squat university shorts.

BradleyUffner,

Guys, I think I found The Algorithm’s Lemmy account!!!

Pantsofmagic,

Yeah I usually watch YouTube on my shield and it clutters up every channel with junk I have no desire to watch.

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