MedicPigBabySaver,

Hogwash you son of a bitch! Now, take my upvote.

MossBear,

I think part of it is that it seems like Lemmy has older users on average than Reddit. For teenagers and young twenty years olds raised on the internet, they seem to not really know how to talk to people in a productive way, so it’s often just toxic, nasty or empty. Obviously this isn’t all people, but internet culture kids tend to all sound and act the same.

PenguinLover,
@PenguinLover@lemmy.ml avatar

As someone younger, I completely agree with you.

DSX,

Yeah some of the Reddit comment sections I’ve seen over the years have been full of people trying to instigate something.

PeleSpirit,

Most of those are trolls, not the youth.

MossBear,

There’s significant overlap there.

PeleSpirit,

I’m probably jaded because I hang out in lemmy.world politics but it really seems more like trolls. I have a hard time thinking that the gen z hang in there

MossBear,

Could be. I don’t really know for sure. Just speculating.

HelloHotel,
@HelloHotel@lemmy.world avatar

Its sad to see what the shape of the room can do to ones psyche, really the AI has taken over because it was handed what the walls look like on a silver platter and told to get to work.

Zezzoz,
@Zezzoz@lemmy.world avatar

I just jumped from reddit and hope this is true. I can’t stand the toxicity there anymore.

mayo,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome! There are hot topics (I’ve noticed politics and inflation being spicy), but by and large great experience.

The smaller communities might be small, but they surprisingly don’t lack in engagement IME. Basically everyone is new so when a community has 10 members, those 10 members have probably been online this week checking their feeds and messages.

Zezzoz,
@Zezzoz@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you, you make me hopeful! I won’t lie, reddit is starring to affect my mental well being and I am not sure I am fully out of it. I have uninstalled the app so far and staying away from it, what I want is reading news and good conversations if they happen and less negativity as possible. Have you noticed an improvement in your relation with social media here?

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

“I won’t lie”

Your honesty is greatly appreciated!

Drusas,

It's smaller than the others, so that may be a big part of why, but @politics on kbin.social is so far very polite.

mayo,
@mayo@lemmy.world avatar

I really want to try kbin.

masterofn001,

I’ve been somewhat active here since the blackout. It had been pretty rare to see downvotes unless someone is being exceptionally crude. Engagement is more organic. Tighter. It actually feels sort of like reddit did 15 years ago. Everything is new and shiny and buggy and beautiful.

Zezzoz,
@Zezzoz@lemmy.world avatar

This is really nice to hear.

Durpadurp,

I left because of the moronic double standards of many subs. Post something that is informative for the sub and the mods delete your post without reason. Yet constant low effort post about account recovery,is my console safe in this location and various other billshit stays. The Playstation sub is bad for that.

Coehl,
@Coehl@programming.dev avatar

Amen that was billshit

soulifix,

For the most part, yes. But I have noted lately that I do get some snarky people coming in with dishonest and bad faith responses. They’re at least not as rampant as it would’ve been on Reddit. It’s discouraging and demoralizing when you’ve got, what feels like, 100 people downvoting you to hell and 50 of them are swiping at you before deleting their accounts and doing it again because they’re of the tribal mindset and you’ve somehow offended a part of the hive.

Gorbachof,
@Gorbachof@lemmy.world avatar

I get a lot of that from the .ml instance users

toasteecup,

I like sounds of the content from .ml but I safe quite a few of the users share a really toxic mindset.

It’s irksome because they are supposed to be leftists and promoting how good communism or socialism can be which seems really at odds with how they speak and act.

Skellybones,
@Skellybones@lemmy.world avatar

They feel Morley Justified to be rude.

It’s either your with them or against

toasteecup,

Yeah, reminds me of a post they did where the question is what issue do you have with leftism. I explained and got downvoted for it. I was even polite

wrenn,
@wrenn@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Yeah in the last week or so I’ve noticed an uptic in snark / downright rude responses compared to when I joined ~2 months ago

I hope the trend does not continue

Gnubyte,

😂 the classic reddit skitzo

ratboy,
@ratboy@lemm.ee avatar

I think I have noticed more crappy behavior as well over the past week or so that I’ve been more active, but I have tended to notice that not as many people feed the trolls as they would on reddit. Downvotes and people move on instead of engaging, it’s nice.

Gnubyte,

I got a “who asked” amongst more productive banter this morning and I actually laughed and said “thank god, people can talk without a filter”.

I’m okay with some stuff being toxic. Reddits moderation rules were so restricting that you couldn’t have a genuine conversation or sometimes just post something that was clearly originally intended to be posted to a sub; moderation was too tight.

Freedom of speech shouldn’t be inconvenienced by a fedora wearing subreddit mod. And if one Lemmy instance does, there’s others you can enjoy!

Coehl,
@Coehl@programming.dev avatar

Ok but who asked?

Gnubyte,

Curses! Foiled again!

Antitrust7668,

This is why I started to hate reddit, even before the big API fiasco. It’s clear all that was making it to the front page was the same liberal-pandering bullshit… I don’t mind seeing a little shad thrown at one side or the other every now and then, but when it’s every 5 posts and it’s always just 1 sides opinion it’s incredibly annoying! I was already looking for other sources of entertainment. I’m kinda glad I found Lemmy. It’s been a really cool experience so far.

SkullHex2, (edited )
@SkullHex2@lemmy.world avatar

in the process of deleting every comment of my lemmy.world account, and permanently joining some instance that does not censor stuff

Agareth,

removed.

TheFriendlyDickhead,

Don’t you dare!

Starkregen,

Think again fuckface.

-throws the ball and runs away to cloud district-

Novman,

Maybe the reddit admins add toxicity to improve engagement? Post/comment manipulation seems common on internet today.

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

Cram it, meatbag!

TheFriendlyDickhead,

I value your opinion.

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

@TheFriendlyDickhead Username checks out.

fugepe,

more genous with upvotes than reddit.

Why would you care about fake points, lmao

Arthur_Leywin,

Technically a verbal compliment is faker than an upvote (a visual sign of approval) because at least the visual approval hasn’t fizzled out of existence after being used. So since a compliment and an upvote are sort of similar, shouldn’t we treat an upvote somewhat similarly to how we treat compliments?

GustavoM,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Then you haven’t posted enough and/or love the “herd mentality” – it’s my 1 month in and I already been massively downvoted twice by randoms with multiple accounts.

TheFriendlyDickhead,

In my experience it depends strongly on the comunity. Those meme comunitys are on their way to become reddit two, command wise. But most communities that are made to have a discussion have been realy nice so far.

GustavoM,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

Um…it actually happened on non-“meme communities”. Can’t mention their names for obvious reasons, but yeah.

pornhubfan,

can’t mention their names

I don’t blame you for not wanting to name-drop but ya know people can see your post history?

GustavoM,
@GustavoM@lemmy.world avatar

There is a major difference between checking my post history for “culprits” and me saying it out loud who did what and who did not. :^)

Nameunknown12,
@Nameunknown12@lemmy.world avatar

Tbh these instances feel alot more like an echo chamber than most subreddits did

Uno,

2 small theories as to why this could be:

  1. Down vote count is shown. On reddit, a down vote, unless it put total karma from a comment into the negative, was imperceptible. I felt less bad about abusing the functionality and downvoting opinions I disagreed with
  2. Lemmy is a lot smaller than Reddit. Whereas on Reddit I might see a low-effort post and go “get this garbage off my feed” on Lemmy I’m like “YEAH! Way to populate my feed!”
GonzoVeritas,
@GonzoVeritas@lemmy.world avatar

You can also see exactly which user downvoted a post, it’s in the log.

UlrikHD,
@UlrikHD@programming.dev avatar

Normal users can see it?

Drusas,

Yes.

Hyphlosion,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

Won’t find any downvotes from me, cuz I post from Mastodon. I kinda like it that way anyways. If you post something I don’t like, I’ll just have to get over myself.

joe_cool,

Only on kbin afaik. Lemmy-UI has no way to display it.

Keep in mind that anyone subscribing to ActivityPub events can see who voted for what and posted or edited. That’s how federation works.

ratboy,
@ratboy@lemm.ee avatar

I think you can see logs on lemmy, I’m pretty sure I saw a beehaw log but I don’t know how to access them

Uno,

You can? Everyday I’m learning something new :)

dgilluly,

Tbh, my upvote policy didn’t really change when I moved to Lemmy.

Something has to be dangerously bad for me to downvote it.

I upvote anything that seems interesting or agreeable to me.

01189998819991197253,
@01189998819991197253@infosec.pub avatar

Same here. If I don’t like it, I simply won’t upvote. If it’s overtly and obviously offensive, I will downvote (happened maybe 4-7 times on Lemmy thus far).

NotOverSeether,
@NotOverSeether@lemmy.world avatar

dangerously bad

Like what? A disagreement?

what,

Insulting, hateful, dangerous advice

Empricorn,

Haha prove it, bitch! I’m upvoting the hell out of you…

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