/r/place: Our beautiful lemmy banner above the 3rd party app protest has been wiped out, please help us rebuild from the right at 38,-25

xQc came and totally wiped us out. We have a lot of work in front of us and we are a bit too small a team to hold this space if someone decides to take it from us. I’m really proud of how well we’ve been able to advertise Lemmy and fuck things up with our allies in Fuck Spez and Black Company (doing the 3rd party apps protest). Help us to close out /r/place with our banner intact!

We are rebuilding from the g at the end of the url at 38,-25

Chat is at app.element.io/#/room/:data.haus

FangedWyvern42,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

Enough. This is getting ridiculous now. Look, I get why we’re doing this, but isn’t the engagement what Reddit wants?

sparky678348,

Yeah that’s the point, and it’s why this is the first r/place that’s not on April Fools.

It’s crazy transparent, they’re desperately trying to get some green statistics before they go public.

realitista, (edited )
@realitista@lemmy.world avatar

Listen, for the last 2-3 months, I’ve only visited Reddit to participate in /r/RedditAlternatives. I’ve moved everything here. I want to make that happen for others too. I’m happy here.

I don’t even subscribe to this subreddit or any of the ones about other social media sites. I tend to downvote anything I do see about Reddit or Twitter, because I just don’t need to hear about them any more.

I’m driving very little traffic Reddit’s way, and the only time I do so is to hasten it’s demise. The most people that we ever had on the chat planning this banner was around 10 that I saw.

This is getting tons of press. I’m quite certain we drove more people here than we drove traffic there. It’s worth it IMO.

Millie,

I’d argue that coming to other platforms begging people to go to Reddit is more impactful than your own personal browsing even if you hadn’t changed your habits at all. It’s just ragebait and Reddit knows it. Stop playing into their hand.

dolla,

You lost me at listen

Ricaz,

I’m sure they’re hating that 1% of their users is spamming /r/place with bot visits, but I think you have to realize that there’s no “fight” to be won and reddit definitely isn’t facing any type of demise.

If you like Lemmy, help improve it and stop talking about reddit.

ipkpjersi,

How else can people help it improve other than spreading awareness about it? While I have no doubt there’s a lot of developers using Lemmy, it’s not like every Lemmy user is a developer.

AnonymousLlama,
@AnonymousLlama@kbin.social avatar

Good to get awareness out there, the more people who know about these federated alternatives the better, even if it means having to use Reddit (where there's still a huge population of potential converts)

sab,
@sab@kbin.social avatar

There seems to also be some confused people who want to move on, but who don't know where to go. For those of us already here it's obvious that kbin/Lemmy is the platform of the migration, but from the outside a lot of people are still considering centralized alternatives.

Having a join-lemmy banner in the middle of r/place with no other Reddit alternatives present should more or less settle the debate on where the move is going to, in a way that speaks directly to the relevant audience (those still on Reddit).

genoxidedev1,
@genoxidedev1@kbin.social avatar

That's what I'm saying! There's literally NO BETTER ADVERTISEMENT for Lemmy than the literal middle of r/place (we held that position for days so it's not just a blip on the timelapses, that will be posted later, either). The middle is the first thing most people will zoom at when looking at the end result.

There's too many doomers in this thread, them saying "move on we lost" is the same as saying "climate is already fucked why bother". I am NOT pro-Reddit but WHERE ELSE should we advertise a Reddit alternative?

Kikkertje,

The only reason I found out about Lemmy was through Reddit.

penguin,

So why are you participating in a reddit community on lemmy then?

Laticauda,

Just because you want to vent about an ex with friends that doesn’t mean you have to send your ex money. Even if you write “you suck” on the bills, you’re still doing them a favour.

CheshireSnake,
@CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Do you really think we have any chance of driving engagement/traffic up (or down) in any significant way? You are overestimating our numbers and vastly underrating theirs.

FangedWyvern42,
@FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not saying that, I’m saying that we should just leave Reddit alone. r/Place was a PR move to drive up engagement. Doing this is exactly what Reddit wants. Anyone who wants to move already has.

CheshireSnake, (edited )
@CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Honestly, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with what you said and I respect that. But I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree (at least for “major” events like r/place). :)

I never go to reddit anymore and only went to r/place. My reasoning is this: they will get their views whatever we do. Bots, streamers, and the sheer popularity of r/place in reddit guarantees that. A few thousand lemmings definitely won’t make a mark, anyway, so why not use that for our cause?

There are still a few people on the fence (on leaving reddit) and more people (certainly more than i exected) are still ignorant of the whole API debacle. It’s honestly rare now, but we still get someone who is trying to migrate in our discord.

mesamunefire,

Can’t we just make our own place? Like a permanent one that’s better than Reddits?

BarbecueCowboy,

I think the fleeting nature is actually kind of what makes it great. Run it once a year for a week. Not sure how you'd accomplish something similar with the fediverse though. Someone would try to run it off-site without the community as a whole getting on board and then you end up with like 8 people participating.

pineapplelover, (edited )

Hello, thanks for your support. I’m the leader of all this and I would like to say thanks for everybody’s contributions.

lemm.ee/post/2027694

realitista,
@realitista@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you! It was a pleasure working with you!

DharmaCurious,

Okay, been wondering this for a while, and can’t think of where to post it. So… Gonna ask her.

Could lemmy do it’s own version of Place? Like, a new instance specifically for lemmyplace, sole purpose being the big canvas (maybe c/canvas?), And it only stays up until it’s done?

Kushia,
@Kushia@lemmy.ml avatar

If xQc wiped us out then it means a lot of interesting people saw the banner and it worked as intended.

jcit878,

side note, how in the hell is reddit infested with so many bots yet i cant get an alt that doesnt get instabanned for the life of me? the increasingly angry messages from the admins each time they swat a new one are funny and all, but i wouldnt mind an account to occasionally say something from. tried using VPN and it didnt seem to work. Note: am not a tech guy so probably missing something very obvious

lemmonade, (edited )

didn’t notice this, I use a couple of alts and create a new one from time to time (although I do this less and less because I mostly use lemmy instead now)

jcit878,

yeah i had a main and 2 alts no dramas for years but my main got an out of the blue admin level ban with no warning (for calling someone a cooker, who was indeed, cooked), which led to my other 2 alts banned and any new ones i made

Angry_Maple,
@Angry_Maple@sh.itjust.works avatar

While responding to another person with a similar problem, I saw someone suggest that another person’s VPN might have been using the banned IP Adress.

My girlfriend also had the same problem right before reddit pulled the recent app shenanigans. All of her appeals were immediately banned, despite the fact that she only really lurked. Out of the two of us, we figured that my account would have been the one to go, because I actually commented and posted things. Nope.

jcit878,

dang. thats frustrating. i seriously wonder how all the bad actors manage to keep popping up with new accounts. maybe cookies come into play, not sure (i didnt bother deleting)

PaperTowel,

I’ve never checked out a community or done anything because of a random 50 pixels on r/place. The engagement they get from this is so valuable to them, while I’d be surprised if one person joins because of these random pixels.

kresten,

I have, that’s how I discovered r/fuckcars, now c/fuckcars. I did so last time r/place was around

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.world avatar

The argument about engagement being worth a lot is kinda silly. The initial numbers of “look at how good we can do!” immediately followed by “but everyone using it has left” isnt a good thing. Advertisers want stability not “big number for short time.”

Look at it this way: If you were an advertiser, would you go with an advertisement campaign on a site that had an average of 1000 users each and every day, or a site that had 100,000 users for a single day, and 10 for the rest of the year?

PaperTowel,

Sure but It depends on how it’s presented I feel like too, Reddit can say that r/place had x amount of interactions which is growth over the past x numbers of iterations of r/place. And Reddit now doubt has amazing retention numbers so I don’t think marketers are gonna worry about that. Either way if we’re on it or not I don’t think Reddit even notices, we’re less than a drop in the bucket. I think I’m just fatigued from Mastodon and Lemmy being full of, Look what’s happening on Twitter and look what’s happening on Reddit. It’s fatiguing when it’s every 3rd post.

chairman,

Since we so want to advertise Lemmy on Reddit, perhaps we should buy some ads on Reddit and let it run for a month. What do you think? I will start a Patreon and chip in 0.0001 cent? Anyone with me?

That will show reddit we mean business and want to take reddit down!!! /s

sebinspace,

I bet you guys stalk your exes.

Draces,

It’s more like I want to hangout with my friends that picked my abusive ex over me 😞

Ricaz,

Either way whining about it won’t help

Draces,

But it does. The banner contributes to investor opinion about Reddit leading up to their IPO. It’s also exposure for Lemmy. The excess Reddit posts is exhausting though so I understand your frustration

sebinspace,

Then get new friends

athos77,

Hmm, let me check the comments I made when they kicked off /r/place again last week. Oh, yes, there it is:

I absolutely wouldn't put it past [reddit] to either skew the accounts (admin accounts can change colors as much as they want!) or do something annoying like arranging for xQc and his little cult to grief the board again (which probably wouldn't take much beyond someone telling him that he was welcome to do so).

I should get a job as a prognosticator ....

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

I really doubt they worked with xQc on this.

Not because I put it past them, but rather because he was gonna do this regardless

genoxidedev1,
@genoxidedev1@kbin.social avatar

I'm OOTL can someone explain why xQc even did this? Was it targeted?

At least I'm in the loop enough to know that he and his chat at least have the attention span of a banana which is why it was so quickly rebuilt.

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

He did it last year too. It just causes chaos, which is what his viewers enjoy.

genoxidedev1,
@genoxidedev1@kbin.social avatar

It definitely looked targeted since it was just that spot (at least when I looked) if it really just was for chaos that's S-Tier cringe but expected.

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.world avatar

You’d think xQc would be all for sowing the chaos of pushing users to a different platform.

beregoth,

Give it some time. Everyone’s life priorities will change and something like this won’t be at the top of the list.

Source: Used to do the same crap.

Mereo,

No. This is becoming rediculous. Stopped being so obsessed with your ex.

Ricaz,

The equivalent of being broken up with, then posting daily on Facebook about your ex and contacting all her friends to tell them he’s/she’s the bad one

SinningStromgald,

Thoughts and prayers any help? Because I’m not going on Reddit ever again.

z3n0x,
@z3n0x@feddit.de avatar

Just. Let. It. Die.

skulblaka,
@skulblaka@kbin.social avatar

Just build a script for it like everyone else who is advertising on it right now. If reddit wants to play dirty so can we.

genoxidedev1,
@genoxidedev1@kbin.social avatar

Idk if there's a script but yesterday or somewhen, ChaoticNeutralCzech shared this template

AnonymousLlama,
@AnonymousLlama@kbin.social avatar

Great work mate 🦙

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