Probably the end of this, Google rarely tries to actually resurrect any of their failed attempts, enough people are paying attention to this shit these days, although we’re a minority, were a vocal one. There’s definitely a slight uptick in people caring about their privacy.
They will learn from this effort, call it R&D, and start working on something that is effectively worse but break it into smaller pieces. The new project will be less obviously evil at a glance.
It is logical that this is not the end, Google has tried for more than a decade to use some dirty tricks and until now it has always hit its teeth on a rock. It’s an eternal game of cat and mouse between Google devs and other devs that override it. Now also helped by the EU and consumer associations that have already obtained million-dollar fines from Google, Fakebook, MS and Amazon for these abusive practices. Users in the US may have problems, because there corporations can roam freely because there are no laws that prevent them from doing so.
Yes, but trusting only in the politicians and the bureaucracy, well… I think that the users themselves should have the initiative too, to do without in the most possible of products and services from the USA, at least those of large corporations and use the most products and services from the EU. It is the consumer himself who determines the market, corporations, to sell create needs where there are none, we must get out of this model and demand what we really need and not blindly use what these corporations say we need.
In my personal experience this is blatantly untrue, because now I can’t even log into my Google/YouTube account on Librewolf anymore. I get a prompt saying “this browser may be insecure” and requesting that I use Chrome instead. This is exactly what the Web Environment Integrity API was intended for — maybe they did decide to shelve it for general use, but Google is still absolutely trying to push this bullshit for their own services.
I never had this issue for the past 2 years I’ve used Librewolf until, coincidentally, Google “decided” to “sunset” its browser DRM.
??? No problems with Vivaldi (Chromium) nor with Midori (Gecko), Vivaldi with the own ad/tracker blocker + iFrame script installed as extension, Midory with uBO + Greasymonkey with the iFrame script. in both YT 100% clean of ads and nags.
Anyway i use more and more alternatives to YT, front-ends and desktop clients, which offer me videos in better quality, faster and without garbage and tracking.
I have Librewolf with uBO and CanvasBlocker whitelisted for very specific websites. It required me both disabling uBO and allowing *.google.com in CanvasBlocker’s whitelist for my browser to suddenly be “secure” again.
In other words… “we won’t let you sign in unless you enable your trackers on your browser.”
No such problems here in Midori, with uBO and Tampermonkey with the script, no tracking, no ads. Nothing whitelisted in YT, i even use 2 extensins more to block clickbaits in YT (Most Videos have clickbaits, where the thumbnails of the videos have nothing to do with the content) and one to avoid that YT paused the videos or playlists after a certain time (YouTube NonStop)-
Not that I’d ever normally do so (privacy guy) but I just logged into it without issue from both Brave and Fennec on my phone and and both Brave and Firefox on the desktop.
One of the reasons I’m usually not a fan of browser spinoffs is theyre known for doing weird shit, clearly it sees something security wise it doesn’t like with LibreWolf. If it was a blanket thing they were doing I would have got that too.
“Marketplace for the Sale of Software Applications and Other Web Solutions for Consumer Technology; and Sale of Advertising Engagement Opportunities and Revenue Share To Solution Providers”
…for now. This isn’t a beloved google service that people were relying on. This is the means by which google intents to subjugate and fully enshittify the web. They’ll try again under different names until one takes. It only has to work once.
I mean, it was under the radar to begin with. It wasn’t on any main google channels, it was mostly only discussed by the developers who handled the project.
The only reason people know about this to begin with is because there were fortunately a lot of people paying attention. I remember the first time I saw anything about it was on HackerNews and it was straight from the dev. Maybe it was even just the github. Either way, it was not advertised in any major way other than not outright being hidden.
When it originally hit, I remember arguments about how its “just a few developers,” and “we’ll wait until it actually ends up in chrome” and so on. The whole point was that it was still relatively early on in development and was just at proposal stage. This thankfully went from obscure developer news to big worldwide general tech news and Google backed down… for now.
We can be thankful developers with consciences are paying attention, in the meantime.
These, if I am correct, were the original links on HackerNews from around 4 months ago. Not exactly major advertising blitz from Google or anything, mostly wonky/technical documents.
They are still going to pursue it, just under a different name and rolling-out timeline. What they changed is only the way they are announcing it publicly.
It’s going to be “DRM for the Web, but with extra steps”.
I partially agree. They created a monopoly because they offer the best search engine service. You can’t be accused of making a monopoly if your competition is embarrassingly bad and no one wants to use any service but yours.
What they are doing now, regardless of how they gained this monopoly, is ensuring that every cow that feeds on the grass of their field yields profitable milk.
Noone would care if they only had a monopoly in the search engine market. But they are also the biggest ad network, email provider and browser maker, and they also own the (effectively only) video platform.
But if you implement something in your browser that allows websites to block anything that isn't an accepted browser (and websites use it because they don't want their precious data to feed random AIs) you effectively prevent any potential competition from crawling websites to build a search index that might threaten your position.
This is what I meant, if everyone is running googles web integrity API it also effectively allows google to ban other browsers from even existing by denying them access to all major sites.
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