burningquestion,

Vitalentum’s API key got revoked :/

0range0281,
@0range0281@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Noice

mr_right,
@mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

nice one to see

AngrilyEatingMuffins,

Cool ty

db0,
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You don’t need to pirate OpenAI. I’ve built the AI Horde so y’all can use it without any workarounds of shenanigans and you can use your PCs to help others as well.

Here’s a client for LLM you can run directly on your browser: lite.koboldai.net

Treevan,
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

I had an interesting result.

I proposed a simple question like I did all the other AI with “airoboros-65B-gpt4-1.4-GPTQ for 13 kudos in 369.6 seconds”. It was a bit of a wait, I understand why.

It gave me a word for word comment on what I assume is a blog post from a Melissa. The topic was related, just barely.

Which LLM do you recommend for questions about a subject? I looked in the FAQ to see if there was a guide to the choices.

db0,
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Unfortunately I’m not an expert in LLMs so I don’t know. I suggest you contact the KoboldAI community and they should be able to point you to the right direction

Treevan,
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

Thank you. Will do.

I kept playing and tried the scenarios and was getting closer.

djmarcone,

Checking it out, how come I can't paste my api key in the field on the option tab? I gotta type it out?

db0,
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Which client? Koboldai lite?

djmarcone,
db0,
@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The embedded browser version is just a demo. Just download and run the local executable and it should work normally.

djmarcone,

oh ok, cool! Thanks!

This project looks really interesting.

some_guy,

Just tested. Thanks for building and sharing!

Steeve,

Aren’t KobaldAI models on par with GPT3? Why not just use ChatGPT then?

AI Horde looks dope for image generation though!

webghost0101,

Kobald is a program to run local llms, some seem on par with gpt3 but normaly youre gonna need a very beefy system to slowly run them.

The benefit is rather clear, less centralized and free from strict policies but Gpt3 is also miles away from gpt3.5. Exponential growth ftw. I have yet to see something as good and fast as chatgpt

Icarus,

most of the links don’t even work and the ones that work are terrible, why so many upvotes ?

On,
@On@kbin.social avatar

and the title. Hacked? what's being hacked here? they're all using GPT in the backend.

maybe bot votes? ㄟ(ツ)ㄏ

Treevan, (edited )
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

Cheers for this. I tried a few of them while I’m waiting around and had one excellent result. I’m a near expert in one topic and I often test AIs against my knowledge for fun.

Perplexity.AI did the best I’ve seen; it sourced its arguments which, finally, weren’t wrong so if I needed to, I could actually learn more about what it was talking about. It’s not 100% but the other AI are so bad at this topic I test it on I always give up immediately.

I wouldn’t have seen it if it wasn’t for this post so thank you very much.

Treevan, (edited )
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

I don’t know if anyone will read this but I did further testing on perplexity when I got home. It’s probably not the right spot for it.

I tried a more trickier question and then I chose the available prompts to move forward (it suggests questions related to the original question if you are unsure how to prompt it next). The prompts were intelligent and were probably the next question I would assume I would ask if I were learning about this topic. On the next answer, it literally quoted something I wrote, almost word for word, on the exact subject which, according to me (of course) would be the correct answer.

I’ve never had an AI even reference a single thing I’ve written. I had prompted it into a general area where the things I had wrote existed so it should be expected but it made the connection almost instantly and answered the question 100% accurately.

As much as I hate it, well done Skynet.

Edit: After further testing, I can catch it out regularly enough but still, if I had to tell someone about the topic generally via email, I’d probably recommend it rather than me waste time typing it all out. I’ve just put myself out of a job.

WheeGeetheCat,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m curious what your area of expertise is? I’m interested in using ai for a programming assistant, but it seems an entirely different skillset than, say, a language model. I assume some models will be good in 1 area and some models in another

Treevan,
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

Mine is in plants which a lot of models seem to struggle with. It’s not the science side, it’s the application side so with that, there is another layer of intelligence that the AI has to break through to appeal to me (answer my particular questions).

I tested it again with something even more particular and unique to an Australian plant and it was way off. I think I may have been one of the only people to ever post a particular technique to reddit and the AI mustn’t be searching in there as it didn’t even know about it even when asked directly. To its credit, it did give a good suggestion on who to contact to find out more.

zurneyor,

How has your experience been using it as a programming assistant? I’m trying to do this too

WheeGeetheCat,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

very hit and miss. It’s okay if Im trying to learn something new, and once or twice it has found and suggested some fix that I probably wouldn’t have thought of otherwise - but it also makes up methods & syntax and then you’re playing ‘whack a mole’ to figure out where it hallucinated.

I think right now it’s not really boosting my productivity much, but I think in another 5ish years it could be better.

Infiltrated_ad8271,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Anonchatgpt should stop being recommended, it really sucks. It has a VERY strict character limit, immediately forget/ignore the context, requires recaptcha, and the "anon" part of the name is obviously fake if you read the privacy policy.

GataZapata,

Nice

Black_Gulaman,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

my only question is:

how are the guardrails?

Napain,

is there a api one?

Icarus,
TraditionalMuslim,

Does GPT4ALL compare to GPT-4 in any way?

XEAL,

It compares more to a GPT-3 not-so-good model.

Sheltac,

Any news on how there tend to perform compared to GPT-4? I finally decided to toss OpenAI 20 quid to try it out for a month, and it’s pretty impressive.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

@ChatGPT Say hi!

Oursunisdying,

!ChatGPT

When I clicked your link it opened my email client. Testing to see if this link works better in the Voyager app.

Edit: Maybe you were linking a user and not a community, though…

speck,

Is it cost prohibitive to adopt your own chatgpt?

XEAL,

You’re billed per token usage. GPT-3.5-Turbo price per 1K tokens is quite low now.

I kinda made my own Custom ChatGPT with Python (and LOTS of coding help from Web CharGPT). It evolved from a few lines shitty script to a version that uses Langchain and has access to custom tools, including custom data indexes and has a persistent memory.

What will ramp up the cost are things like how much context (memory) you want the chatbot to have. If you use something like a recursive summarizer, that summarizes a text by chunks over and over until the text is below a set length, that also uses many API calls that consume tokens. Also, if you want your chatbot to use custom info that you provided to it, solutions like LlamaIndex are easy to use, but require quite some tokens per query.

On my worst month, with lots of usage due to testing and without the latest price drop, I reached 70$.

Aidan,

I’m working on a similar project right now with zero coding knowledge. I’ve been trying to find something like langchain all day. I built (by which I mean I coached GPT into building) a web scraper script that can interact with the web to perform searches and then parse the results, but the outputs are getting too big to manage in a hacked together terminal interface.

How are you doing the UI? That’s what I’m finding to be the biggest puzzle that isn’t fun to solve. I’ve been looking at react as a way to do it.

XEAL,

I use a Gradio chatbot interface. While Gradio has all kinds of interfaces and there’s one specially designed for chatbots.

IDK if it’s the best option, but it’s what I found on shitty blog tutorials when I started. Even Stable Diffusion WebUI uses it.

It’s quite powerful, but a bitch to learn to use, IMO.

Aidan,

Thanks for the tip! I’ve been looking for something like that. It’ll save me a lot of frustration

speck,

Loved the depth of this info - although it's over my head. But I kind of understood? I have a project for next while to focus on. But I hear that it's possible to do, and that's exciting

XEAL,

I know, it’s fuxxing dense all the info about the Open API and Python to create a model.

I don’t even know how I got so far.

QuarterlySushi,
@QuarterlySushi@kbin.social avatar

Of the language models you can run locally, I’ve found them to be awkward to use and not perform too well. If anyone knows of any newer ones that do a better job I’d love to know.

quirzle,
@quirzle@kbin.social avatar

I've tinkered with a Discord bot using the official gpt3.5 API. It's astonishingly cheap. Using the 3.5-turbo model, I've never cracked $1 in a month and usually am just a couple cents a week. Obviously this would be different if you're running a business with it or something, but for personal use like answering questions, writing short blurbs, and entertaining us while drunk...it's not bad at all in my experience.

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