Arthur_Leywin,

She looks like a penguin in that coat xD

SirEDCaLot,

I came here thinking this sounds like she might be getting woke-cancelled for suggesting Israel is pure as driven snow…

Khalifa even urged Hamas fighters to “flip their phones and film” executions horizontally in one of her posts.

Nevermind, she can go fuck herself with a cactus.

If you think military fighters executing civilians is an acceptable strategy, you probably deserve to be among those civilians and see how you like it.

Guest_User,

Telling a porn star to “go fuck herself” made me chuckle more than it should

SoleInvictus, (edited )
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

They took her comment grossly out of context for effect. The actual quote was…

“Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal."

Yeah, pretty tasteless, but it’s not what the article makes it out to be. She’s largely getting dragged for openly criticizing Israel’s genocide and the media is skewing the situation to make her look worse. Can’t have the masses questioning the party line and all.

Not_Alec_Baldwin, (edited )

The real controversy seems to be around her calling them fromage fighters.

Edit: FREEDOM fighters lmao, but I can’t bring myself to fix it.

Acters,
SoleInvictus,
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

OMFG, I want to be a fromage fighter so bad.

undeffeined,

Yes, please leave the fromage ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪

Carighan,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Fromage fighters? What a stinker.

coffee_poops,

Considering Israel is carpet bombing and entire city of non-combatants perhaps you should get some perspective.

TWeaK,

You don’t need to know that Israel are carpet bombing a city (which is wrong) to know that Hamas executing civilians is also wrong. Neither side are justified in the horrific war crimes they are committing.

coffee_poops,

Never said it was, dude.

Misconduct,

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  • spirinolas,

    Maybe check that again. Those reports came from a less than reputable Israeli newspaper and was based on claims from IDF sources. There’s no independent confirmation. It’s pretty much just war propaganda to dehumanize the Palestininans and clear the road for the atrocities to come.

    phoenixz,

    So two wrongs do make a right, then?

    FUCK Hamas with a cactus FUCK the Israel government with a cactus

    coffee_poops,

    Agreed

    Carighan,
    @Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

    Is this the right time to get into the cactus growing business?

    EndlessApollo,

    BOTH SIDES BAD !!! I’m very smart :)

    cactusupyourbutt,

    I see Im required here…

    SirEDCaLot,

    Your moment has come!!

    assassin_aragorn, (edited )

    !

    One of my favorite insults is saying someone should shove a rusty cactus up their ass.

    I think we just became best friends. Or at least, to not be presumptive, you’ve gained a new fan.

    paddirn, (edited )

    I don’t know if I can jerk off to her in good conscious anymore.

    poldergeest,

    The hijab thing got a whole new dimension

    Agent641,

    Ill never enjoy jerking off to her again. From now on, Ill only be angry and disappointed while jerking off to her.

    atetulo,

    Were they pro-Hamas or pro-Palestine?

    phoenixz,

    Since she was joking about civilians executions, I think they were pro go fuck yourself mia

    SoleInvictus, (edited )
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    Since she was joking about civilians executions…

    Except she wasn’t. That’s the line the media is pushing but, if you actually read what she wrote -

    “Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”

    there’s no reference, direct or inferred, to Hamas or civilian executions. The propaganda machine is working overtime.

    Peppycito,

    If the 'freedom fighters" aren’t hamas, then who was she talking about?

    Karyoplasma,

    Any of the civilians in the Gaza prison camp that documents the situation could be reasonably called a freedom fighter.

    Peppycito,

    Are they taking vertical video?

    SoleInvictus,
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    Here’s an article that slightly better explains the situation.

    She wrote…

    “I just want to make it clear that this statement in no way shape or form is enticing spread of violence, I specifically said freedom fighters because that’s what the Palestinian citizens are… fighting for freedom every day.”

    bitwaba,

    Anyone that gets their geopolitical opinions from a pornstar has some serious self reflecting to do. Firing her, or leaving her employeed, will make little difference in the world.

    phoenixz,

    I don’t think this was about her opinions as much as it was about here shitty taste of humor.

    SoleInvictus,
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    Pro-Palestine. One of her posts was ambiguous - "Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”

    The media propaganda machine was more than happy to pretend that was directed to Hamas, and then went on to fabricate that it was in reference to civilian executions, but it’s all 100% bullshit.

    RunawayFixer,

    If at a time when terrorists of Hamas are releasing a ton videos of their terror attacks, you say "Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.”, then you are calling those terrorists freedom fighters. And if you call terrorists freedom fighters, then you are tacitly supporting those terrorists and their acts of terror. Especially if you do this right after one of the most brutal attacks against civilians that we have seen in the last few years.

    SoleInvictus, (edited )
    @SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

    You can assume that’s what she meant, but you don’t actually know that - you’re just putting words into someone’s mouth. She even clarified later that’s exactly what she DIDN’T mean. This is also a time when Israel is bombing largely defenseless citizens. If you’re going to make assumptions about the intent of a statement, it’s also valid to assume she’s referring to this.

    Not every Palestinian is a member or supporter of Hamas, and not every person who fights for the freedom of the Palestinians is a member or supporter of Hamas.

    RunawayFixer,

    Pro Hamas. Right after the latest gruesome terror attacks, she called the terrorists of Hamas “Palestine freedom fighters” and proclaimed that actions by Palestinians were always justified, thereby expressing her support for Hamas and their terror attacks.

    deccanherald.com/…/mia-khalifa-shows-support-to-p…

    DaDragon,

    Well to be fully honest, freedom fighters and terrorists are the same thing, just from two perspectives. The average afghani villager probably won’t consider their current government terrorists, even if a large part of the western world does.

    One man’s terrrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

    RunawayFixer, (edited )

    An example of what you’re saying is the pkk in Turkey. Turkey calls them terrorists, while a lot of people still view them as a party fighting for freedom. But the pkk and it’s armed wing have never committed indiscriminate mass massacres of civilians. The endgoal of the pkk is also not the total destruction of the Turks, but rather the self determination of the Kurds.

    Hamas on the other hand has as endgame the total genocide of Jews and has no qualms in indiscriminately massacring civilians.

    About Hamas there is no nuance: they are genocidal terrorists.

    gressen,

    There is no proof Palestinian fighters ‘beheaded’ babies. The only source is a radical settler.

    Please be very careful. We don’t really know what the truth is but this story may be a part of disinformation effort used right now to justify military action against civilians.

    RunawayFixer,

    Ty, I’ll edit my comment.

    Roflmasterbigpimp, (edited )
    @Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world avatar

    Hamas are Terrorist. They don’t fight for freedom they fight for Terror.

    paddirn,

    Yes, those freedom fighters bravely raped and murdered a music festival full of people for the glory of Palestinian freedom.

    Plibbert,

    I just took a look at the pinned article but didn’t see any pro Hamas tweets, just anti-zionist and pro Palestinian.

    Can you quote it for me, I admit I did kinda skim it.

    RunawayFixer,

    *She posted on X on Oct 7, which now stands deleted, saying, “Can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontal.” She added "If you can look at the situation in Palestine and not be on the side of Pal…

    Read more at: deccanherald.com/…/mia-khalifa-shows-support-to-p…*

    The posts were in the article I linked + the one above (might be the same one, I just googled another one that has the quotes - I’m on mobile, don’t expect too much ;)). She is not using the name of Hamas, but she is calling them "Palestinian freedom fighters. **It is by the timing that we know that she was talking about Hamas. **

    She made those posts shortly after the attacks, when social media was being filled with footage of Hamas. Hamas fighters post videos in portrait format of them gunning down civilians, Mia Khalifa posts shortly after and asks the “Palestinian freedom fighters” for videos in landscape format. So she called the terrorists who were indiscriminately killing civilians, freedom fighters, thereby tacitly supporting their actions. Strike 1.

    In a second follow up post, she states that one should always be on the side of Palestinians, implying that in her eyes the atrocities that were committed just hours before, were justified because they were committed by Palestinians. No nuance, exceptions or caveats, for her, anything done in the name of Palestinians against Israël is apparently justified, no matter how heinous. Strike 2.

    A 3rd post was about Palestinians tearing down their prison walls, which mostly just went to show how incredibly stupid and ignorant this woman is. It’s possible that she misunderstood the situation and thought that those terror attacks were the start of a bigger offensive with the aim of ending Palestine oppression.

    There are plenty of people who support fully liberating the west bank without applauding terror attacks against civilians, but she chose to start applauding right after the images of the terror attacks hit the media. It’s only much later that she started retracting her statements and proclaiming that she wasn’t talking about Hamas.

    Plibbert,

    Ahhh yeah, I missed that deleted one.

    boatsnhos931,

    Playboy is still around? That’s more surprising than whoever that slut is…

    orca, (edited )
    @orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts avatar

    Ah yes, more misrepresentation and intentional misinterpretation of commentary in order to support the Zionist agenda. She didn’t praise or even mention Hamas in her comment at all. This article is just another cog in the propaganda machine.

    This pro-Israeli propaganda cycle has been the most disgusting I’ve ever seen. People that never have a comment on anything are coming out of the woodwork, frothing at the mouth over anyone speaking out against state-backed ethnic cleansing and genocide.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸

    TheBlue22, (edited )

    Reading these comments is fucking insane.

    Calling Hamas “freedom fighters” is an insult to every real current and past freedom fighter in history of mankind.

    Freedom fighters dont choose targets that are exclusively civilian, they don’t hunt down and execute civilians, nit caring about their beliefs or standing. They don’t spread terror among the civilian population. All of these things make the thing they are fighting stronger and puts the rest of the population against them. It’s what terrorists do.

    Why do you think people in the zionist government support Hamas?! Because it serves to justify the hanous things the government does against Palestinians as a whole.

    Real freedom fighters choose infrastructure, smaller military targets (that are reachable), political assassinations of the government officials they are against, et cetera.

    These cause civilian casualties, but the civilian casualties are not the goal, they are the byproduct.

    Palestinians deserve so much more than Hamas, but Hamas won’t let them choose. They silence or kill anyone who disagrees with them, be it Israeli of Palestinian.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸

    Fuck Hamas.

    Iceman,

    There is no such thing as “real freedom fighters” War is not a moral thought experiment.Terrorism is at the end of the day a a military strategy. Which freedom figheters, militas and regular armiees use all the time.

    ricdeh,
    @ricdeh@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s incredibly heartless to say such things

    vacuumflower,

    It would be if using or not using terror would be orthogonal to success in war. War is a zero-sum game and you simply can’t throw out anything giving advantage - you’ll be punished by evolution, as simple as that.

    Unless you are in some artificial situation where rules of war are respected and if they are not you are punished by neutral sides. Sadly our era doesn’t have any such mechanism despite all the declarations. It’s not Frederic the Great’s time.

    vacuumflower, (edited )

    It’s what terrorists do.

    This particular sentence is not entirely correct, as it implies that freedom fighters can’t use terror tactics and thus be terrorists.

    Say, if some Armenian force (there are none that’d have the balls) would bomb the Mingechaur dam, the pipes and infrastructure going through Tovuz, other smaller hydroelectric objects etc in Azerbaijan, - these would be actions aimed at fighting for freedom, but very important part of their effect would be terror.

    In some way any violent activity aimed at denying someone their feeling of safety is terrorism. Like, say, allied bombing campaign of Germany (its goals were even formulated like that).

    I agree that Hamas are not freedom fighters, their ideology is pretty Nazi.

    TheBlue22, (edited )

    There is again difference between blowing up a strategic dam and attacking a concert full of civilians.

    First can have some actual strategic importance, cutting out energy, interrupting travel, et cetera.

    It causes terror and civilian causalities, but that is again, a byproduct. If the latter is greater than the former it doesn’t add to the revolutionary goal, I would argue it damages it and causes more harm than good for the group.

    Second is pure terror, it serves no purpose for the group, vilianizes them to the public and makes the government they are fighting against stronger.

    Any action that doesn’t help with a revolutionary goal or even detracts from it, is useless.

    Any action with no strategic importance and only creating terror is not only evil, but harms the group more then it helps.

    There is a massive difference between terrorism and freedom fighting.

    I am not saying freedom fighting groups don’t do terrorism, we dont live in a perfect world. What I am saying that terrorism has no benefits and only harms not only the innocent but also the group commiting it.

    vacuumflower,

    OK, with this I agree.

    zbyte64,

    Putting aside whether terror is strategic, taking hostages is a strategy.

    TheBlue22,

    Killing houndreds of innocent unarmed civilians isn’t

    zbyte64,

    Are you saying if one element of their response isn’t strategic then it doesn’t matter about the rest?

    TheBlue22,

    Nope, as I stated otherwise.

    I am saying that non strategic acts harm the cause more than strategic help it.

    Hamas does much more non strategic acts than strategic acts, to such an extent that calling them a freedom fighting group is objectively false.

    Strawberry,

    She did clarify that she was talking about Palestinian civilians filming the missile attacks on civilian homes and such, calling them freedom fighters for documenting atrocities

    Shadywack,
    @Shadywack@lemmy.world avatar

    Good, fuck Hamas.

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