At least two brands have said they will suspend advertising on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, after their ads and those of other companies were run on an account promoting fascism. The issue came less than a week after X CEO Linda Yaccarino publicly affirmed the company’s commitment to brand safety for advertisers.
This is so incredibly inaccurate. Nazi’s killed communists before coming for other groups. In fact, communists were one of the largest roadblocks to Nazi’s gaining power so they were one of the first groups be be targeted and eliminated. Despite what the name of the National Social German Workers’ Party might have you assume, the Nazi party were very much capitalists. They deregulated, supported business owners, squashed unions and even privatized public industries. All of these are hallmarks of capitalism. The one thing I will agree with is being anti-fascist means being anti-nazi, however this doesn’t work the other way around. Equating communism with either fascism or nazism is asinine. Comparing fascism and nazism to neoliberalism would be much closer to an apt comparison.
Instances should ban other instances with heavy communist content and users that advertise the communist ideology, just like they’re most likely doing to nazism and other harmful ideologies.
These are both ideologies that pray on the weak minded and on their life issues. Oddly they began in the same way, they both hate someone because they were wealthy while some in society were passing through difficulties. In case of nazis they hated on the jews, in case of communists they hate on everyone that has any money at all.
my point being you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about, liberalism (which im assuming you are) has historically killed more people than communism and further more is activelly still killing millions of people in modern wars and trade embargos
And capitalism, and the resulting lack of basic medical care in America despite us spending the most money per capita on it, killed my son and my dad. Go fuck yourself with a piece of rusty rebar you inhuman piece of shit. Tired of trying to have good faith arguments with folks like you. I’m ready to just start shooting on sight
Even attempting to draw a parallel like that between race/ethnicity and material wealth is a fairly questionable take to most rational people I’d say, or at least hope.
They did it and with success. Sadly when people are having a hard time they will be always search for someone to blame, and that’s why those populist nazis/communists/socialists/fascists come in.
They always blame the problems on a specific class of people, then they present themselves as the “solution”.
Trump did the same with the mexicans, and it worked.
You may have misunderstood my comment; it was intended to suggest that I strongly question your values and priorities because you’re attempting to equate something as innate as race with material wealth. I’d go further to say that your conflating communism and socialism with nazism and fascism is merely ideological drivel.
The fact they seem to think communism, a ideology with scientific princables at its core and advocated for by Einstein reproduces by preying on the ‘weak minded’ clearly tells me how they view neuro-divergent people who dare to ask for representation too.
what the hell are you talking about? Victor d’Hupay was an aristocrat. John Goodwyn Barmby was a Chartist, one of whose literal tenets is “pay persons of modest means if they have to serve the interests of the nation”. Thomas Moore was the Lord High Chancellor to Henry VIII. Charles Fourier was the equivalent of a millionaire at age 9. Marx was a lawyer. Engels was the son of a wealthy mill owners. William Morris was the son of what today we’d call a Wall Street fatcat. Kropotkin’s family owned serfs.
Nearly everyone involved in suffrage movements started wealthy and observed the treatment of the poor and was moved to do something about it.
Yeah Lemmygrad and Hexbear are garbage. They’re not fully about communism though, they’re designed to look like communism and support the CCP (and Kremlin).
Exploding Heads is just as bad on the other end of the spectrum. They’re ruining Lemmy, I’d be ashamed to recommend it to anyone with all the authoritarian propaganda.
Ah yes, the ultimate form of communism: VENTURE CAPITALISM.
And I think you need to investigate how a lot of open source gets funded (if it does at all) and why. It’s definitely not communism and in some cases, it’s a worse model than even capitalism.
Because the internet itself functions based on the ideals of Communism… Literally.
There are many moving pieces to “the Internet”. Literally none fundamentally work based on Communism. Any “free work” is a fancy version of Black Friday doorbuster sales.
Who designed the internet?
The United States military and research universities. Universities fund research to attract prestige, patentable technology, court donations, etc.
Did they make everyone pay for it?
The early Internet was not available, period. For pay or not. Al Gore as Senator, pushed for it to open it for commercial exploitation and commercial ISP’s began. Unless you had 500 hours of free AOL dialup, you were paying for it.
Who designs and maintains the protocols the internet uses to communicate with?
Cisco, IBM, Google, AWS, and others hire engineers to sit on the IETF, w3c, etc committees. They publish protocols so their employers can sell new products or maintain marketshare. As a side gig, they also review and approve protocols like ActivityPub.
Do they charge licensing fees for you to use them?
No, the expense is recouped when companies buy products that are built around those products.
Who writes the encryption algorithms that make HTTPS actually secure?
RSA is a multi-billion dollar security company. HTTPS certificates are products that you purchase from Certificate Authorities. Let’s Encrypt is funded by commercial companies to ensure consumer confidence in their main products.
Are they open source?
Sure. The algorithms are also reviewed and approved by NIST, a Communist agency run by the Communist country, the United States of America. You generally do not commercially use use an algorithm if it has not been approved by NIST.
Can you use them without paying a licensing fee?
Yes. Again, the expense is recouped when companies buy products that are built around those products.
Who designs and maintains the HTML specification?
Google, Apple, Mozilla, etc.
JavaScript?
As above.
Video codecs that make YouTube function without royalties?
Streaming services are communism now?
Communism is EVERYWHERE, and it’s glorious. Why do you so utterly fail to understand what it even is?
You remind me of a quote: “Libertarians are like house cats: absolutely convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don’t appreciate or understand.”
Yes but not enough people will boycott everything that supports things they are against. A lot of people will have a brand that they say “yeah but I really like them”
And all corporations are evil, it’s not really a surprise
Sure. But I find it strange that people act like those evil fucks are a faceless building and not individuals you can point to and say, “Hey, no, it’s that guy, he enslaved those kids.”
It doesn’t look as good as you would think. The spacing between the lines in the “X” logo aren’t evenly distributed, which means the added lines aren’t spaced properly either.
Take my word on it, the end result looks more like a dancing cactus than a specific symbol used during World War II.
I'm glad companies are pulling out of X but I've never understood this reasoning for removing your ads tbh.
Every single person who sees your ad knows that it has just been served by the website and has nothing to do with the post/content or author.
Like on youtube, why do companies not wanna advertise on a video with cussing? We all know that the language used in the video has nothing to do with the ad playing before.
Nazis were very stupid people. Conservatives in Germany in the 30s were appalled at these chicken farmer bumpkins trying to tell them about what true German values were. They oozed of anti-intellectualism and refused to educate or read. Which is how these morons invaded Russia in winter.
I never understood the logic. I think someone with half a brain understands that the ad is given by the platform, not the creator of the content. The platform shows that ad to you because algorithms think you’re interested in seeing that, does have nothing to do with the creator you’re watching.
Out of interest can you give some examples of what you have gotten removed? Both on Reddit and Lemmy I have seen users post that they are not having success when putting in moderation requests. Either they are faking those screenshots or the moderation is at the very least hit and miss.
“The platform shows that ad to you because algorithms think you’re interested in seeing”
There’s your answer right there. The platform sees what you’re interested in and serves up this ad. “You seem to be interested in a whole bunch of Nazi shit, here’s an ad for my product” is not a good look for most companies. It’s very simple PR.
In this case since the algorithm doesn’t (obviously) have nazi advertising to show you, it shows what it has instead.
So the companies clearly don't want to then become associated with nazi-posting, because then it might have the connotation of being Nazi adjacent because they didn't say anything. That's basically the definition of tacit support.
How is it so hard to understand that normal people don't want to associate or even be implied to associate with Nazis or their content? Pulling out of twatter is the only sure fire way of keeping their ads away from the Nazi base that's made it's home on twatter with the express approval of its idiot founder.
Association is unavoidable regardless of logic since it is an emotional response. Much like disliking a certain food you associate with a person that was mean to you. Marketing is a Social Science not a Technical one.
IDK if you know this but… rarely is it the food, as long as they get it to temp it should be fine (and lets be honest most dumpser burger joints are overcooking their food). Most often its your own hands that are the reason for food poisoning. Think about all the things you touched (your phone?) between the time you washed your hands and the time you touched the food that went into your mouth. Especially with food that you eat with your hands.
It’s a platform that allows and encourages Nazi content. If your ad is getting served next to Nazi content on a website that allows and encourages Nazi content, it stands to reason that you do, in fact, support Nazis because you bought the ad in the first place. Twixxer or whatever tf it’s called has undergone a lot of fast changes and sometimes corporations are slow to react so I can give the benefit of the doubt up to a certain point, but at this point we all know that you’re supporting right wing terrorists by advertising on Twitter.
The only surefire way for these company to control what their content appears next to is to rely on themselves. I expect them to start experimenting with the Fediverse, especially Mastodon, soon.
… Shitposting on Lemmy is still superior for organic marketing though, especially for movies.
Well considering BMW and Mercedes were once war manufacturers for the OG Nazis and are now breaking into the EV market…I’d say it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch of the imagination.
Ads for brands including Adobe, Gilead Sciences, the University of Maryland’s football team, New York University Langone Hospital and NCTA-The Internet and Television Association were run alongside tweets from the account that had garnered hundreds of thousands of views, CNN observed.
Spokespeople for NCTA and pharmaceutical company Gilead said that they immediately paused their ad spending on X after CNN flagged their ads on the pro-Nazi account.
Ads for brands including Adobe, Gilead Sciences, the University of Maryland’s football team, New York University Langone Hospital and NCTA-The Internet and Television Association were run alongside tweets from the account that had garnered hundreds of thousands of views, CNN observed.
And there’s literally an entire black market of veterinarians recommending a very specific antiviral to cat parents unfortunate enough to have their cats be among the 1% of the global cat population whose mutation of feline enteric coronavirus (FECV) to feline coronavirus (FCoV) brings about Feline infectious peritonitis (FIP), and that specific life-saving treatment is behind Gilead Sciences’ refusal to release their patent to veterinary use…
How about a disclaimer for companies like people have when they play online. “Statements and opinions made by users do not reflect those of X” ESRB for ad companies to get it.
Because it’s annoying when a lot of good shit goes to dog shit when ad companies get involved with the creative side of things. Just have it in the contract up front if it’s not already and they can agree to be on the platform all in or all out.
Something like that is already in law as a kind of default. Companies are not responsible for the content posted by their users on the basis that no entity could possibly police that much content, with two exceptions:
-Content must be removed if it is illegal and has been specifically pointed out by appropriate authorities for removal.
-If an organisation willingly polices their own content in any way then they also take on responsibility for it.
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