uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

To be fair new social housing looks like this:

https://id.cdnstroy.ru/dc6eiwpa6fb3j_poh5uc_h-720_w-1200.jpeghttps://img4.teletype.in/files/f1/86/f186d4d8-4f00-4303-a026-ca53f74801e4.jpeg

Not enough trees and first batch was mostly single-room(as in one bedroom, one kitchen, one toilet and one bathroom in appartment), but better than humant colony.

UnverifiedAPK,

The murals are a nice touch, let’s see how the white paint looks in 50 years though.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

As in 50 years or 50 years without any maintanance and in complete neglect.

Siegfried,

I really like russian appartement complexs, there is always green surrounding the buildings…I hate russia though

trashgirlfriend,

I’m from eastern Europe and those green spaces are usually not very well managed. And they also end up looking kinda sad when you live there.

Rusty playgrounds, plants not managed and growing all over the place in a not very aesthetically pleasing way, completely destroyed or very quickly patched up walkways.

I do think it’s still better than the American suburbs, but it could be so so much better if cities invested more into making these areas enjoyable to be in.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I do think it’s still better than the American suburbs, but it could be so so much better if cities invested more into making these areas enjoyable to be in.

Agreed. If anything is mismanaged it will be shitty, if something was mismanaged for 30 years and did not fall on itself, then it was built good.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I hate russia though

You probably hate Putin instead.

drmoose,

Honestly I’d take homeless any time of the year over the culture that is fostered in those Russian type block houses. It’s far worse.

Barbarian,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Have you ever lived in one? I do, it’s actually really nice people. In mine, there’s basically 2 big groups: families with young children and the elderly.

2ez,

Right, well even though San Diego might have state park beach front property, we shouldn’t have a tent city filling it up. This quickly becomes unhygienic, and crime rises, among other issues.

dangblingus,

Yes, you should have a tent city filling up. San Diego is just like every other city in North America. We’re seeing the endgame of late stage capitalism. Rampant homelessness, at the risk of being redundant, is a feature of capitalism, not a bug. There is only so much money in circulation and most working class people have none of it.

Pointtwogo,
@Pointtwogo@lemmy.ml avatar

oh no you’ve been a victim of misinformation oh dear 🙄

iByteABit,

Oh no I hate sharing good affordable housing with many other people, how could the damn socialists do this to us 😭

Pointtwogo,
@Pointtwogo@lemmy.ml avatar

I know right? It’d be downright awful.

IzzyData,
@IzzyData@lemmy.ml avatar

Is this really even a meme? Just seems like some random slice of depression.

Novman,

North Korea have more births than South Korea, having half of population. Capitalism is a demographic failure.

LufyCZ,

Yeah because people have few activities they can do for leisure compared to “the west”, so sex it is.

Not having money/access to contraceptives probably doesn’t help either

Novman,

So having activities for leisure and money is a problem? Cause demography is the capitalistic problem. It consumes a population to produce leisures and money?

i_stole_ur_taco,

They also have an infant mortality rate of 17 per 1000 vs 2.5 per 1000 in South Korea. I don’t think counting births is super useful here.

Novman,

Infant mortality doesn’t change the numbers a lot. North Korea have a much better demography than South Korea. Modern capitalism destroy the populations the embrace it.

w2qw,

This more because of the local planning in a lot of western countries. Authoritarian countries force housing through much easier

Habahnow, (edited )

I think what they’re trying to say in thr meme is that the building is government funded. In the US, we also a made some government funded buildings, “projects” but it did not go very well (combination of bad optics, and supposedly bad funding) . So the US basically said fuck public funding for housing, the free market will fix everything. And instead of the “ugly” buildings that Russia has (the idea pushed onto Americans) , we ended up with a large number of unhoused people because of spiraling out of control housing costs

Bitrot, (edited )
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The US uses vouchers, but they are underfunded (years long wait lists) and not accepted in many places. Some of the places that do accept them have similar issues to housing projects.

trailing9,

There is only the illusion of a market. Construction codes and lack of construction sites prevent that there is a surplus that drives down costs.

bernieecclestoned,

China has 300m homeless people though?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9326182

Gork,

300 million homeless in China? What the hell, that’s like almost the entire population of the US.

knatschus,

Depending on how one defines homelessness, China has either a very tiny homeless population or an extremely large one. Compared to other countries, there very few vagrants: people living on the streets of China’s cities without means of support. But if one counts the people who migrated to cities without a legal permit (hukou), work as day laborers without job security or a company dormitory, and live in overcrowded and unsanitary conditions on the edge of cities, there are nearly 300 million homeless

The source of your source

jackoid,

Yeah no. There is no way 20% of the Chinese population is homeless. Your source is a US government website, I’m sure they’re not biased about China.

bernieecclestoned,

Yes. Well spotted…

The author is Zhaohui Su who is Chinese and works for:

a School of Public Health, Southeast University, Nanjing, 210009, China

b Center on Smart and Connected Health Technologies, Mays Cancer Center, School of Nursing, UT Health San Antonio, San Antonio, TX 78229, USA

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

this confused me

Grumpy,

Whenever there is a major affordability housing project, it usually gets shut down by its area residents who get to have a say. They’ll often say things like how it’s unsightly because it blocks their views or overshadows their detached homes. Which in turn decreases their own house value. There are plethora of reasons, but I believe that is the one OP is making. NIMBY in other words. Alternatively, OP may be making comments about how government housing projects is socialism/communism and some people are rejecting simply on that basis.

Lack of supply in housing is a severe crisis in certain regions, like Toronto for example, which is now rated as the #1 housing bubble in the world according to some banks with the biggest reason being lack of supply. There’s an estimated shortage of nearly 6 million homes for the Canadian population, most of which is around Toronto. The rapid housing prices is in turn making homelessness spike up.

Indirectly, but effectively, the local population is saying they’d rather have tents pitched near their homes rather than an affordable apartment near by.

Decompose,

Stupidity at its purest form: vote for socialism and leftism, and then when it destroys your city, call it capitalism. You guys come stragiht out of a comic book.

It’s 100% a coincidence that more leftist cities have bigger homelessness problems. You deserve this. You voted for this. Enjoy!

And hey, I don’t give two shits. I’m laughing at you.

Demuniac,

Thats funny because I live in a country that is significantly more left leaning than the US and yet our poverty and homelessness is significantly lower than yours.

Oh and it would help if you stop blaming each other for the problems in your country and start looking at the ones actually making the decisions to be responsible for them as well.

Decompose, (edited )

Your country is not perfect and has its problems. I went to many European countries and saw the beggers everywhere. So spare me the bullshit. Besides, it’s a fact that the US leftist states have bigger homelessness problems.

MJRul3s,

The tents might actually have a better heat isolation xD

Llama0822,

Totally true!

Omega_Haxors,

More like “This doesn’t exist, we’re going to deal with it just one minute” 🤗

nekothegamer,
@nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

there’s no worse/better they’re both worse

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