What is the most secure linux os for torrenting and such?

Im very paranoid about getting into piracy and im not sure if i should or it or not but there are so many things i want that i cant afford.

is there a secure linux os that i can use without a vpn? im pretty use to windows 10 but i was told linux mint is good for this kind of stuff, is that true?

JoMiran,
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My favorite setup was a headless Raspberry Pi Zero plugged in and hidden behind furniture in the common areas of a high-rise condo building where I rented a unit for a few months. They have gigabit Internet access. Remote into it, schedule a batch download, then retrieve it from the Zero later. It was cool, but inconvenient. Proof of concept only really.

stifle867,

Cool project but doesn’t really address OPs concerns.

drwho,
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For an anonymous, disposable seedbox? It seems like it does, though it’s way overkill.

stifle867,

It’s only partly anonymous as it’s still a location they were directly tied to. Not really something you want to be risking if having the law come after you is part of your threat model.

Still a cool project and definitely overkill for internet piracy 😅

drwho,
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Abandonable Tor nodes can also be built this way. Not cost effective, though.

drwho,
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Did anybody find it?

JoMiran,
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Nope. It was there for a year.

drwho,
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Huh. Mine disappeared inside of two weeks. Then Pi’s got impossible to find and I gave up on it.

JoMiran,
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I put mine in a black casing that basically makes it look like a power adapter. The uncovered board is too conspicuous.

drwho,
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So did I. I think somebody said, “Hey, free Raspberry Pi!” and that was that.

VHS,
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piracy is not that deep… the OS doesn’t really matter in this case as what you’re concerned about is the ISP, not anything in your own PC. if you don’t have a VPN, your ISP could send letters bugging you for downloading stuff. you’d probably have to get dozens of letters before the ISP would cancel your service.

just get a VPN for $5/month and you don’t have to worry about it.

jbloggs777,

Your advice on ISPs is jurisdiction specific. As an example, in Germany and some other countries, you have private law firms involved, tracking down people with the help of the courts, shaking people down with threats of civil lawsuits. VPNs good, though.

RHOPKINS13,

You can pirate without a VPN, just don't use torrents. All major file hosts (like MEGA, Google Drive, etc.) use HTTPS. Your ISP can see that you're downloading from them, but they can't tell what you're downloading nor whether it's pirated content. People get busted for torrents all the time, downloading from other places (NOT P2P!)? Practically unheard of.

UntouchedWagons,
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The OS you use doesn’t really matter, what matters is what VPN server you use and to an extent what client you use. I’ve used AirVPN for about 3 maybe 4 years now with no issues and they allow port forwarding. qBitTorrent is a well regarded client and provides a setting to bind to a particular network interface (IE the virtual NIC provided by your VPN), this is much more reliable than a VPN client’s killswitch feature.

queue,
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All that matters is if you trust your VPN. You can torrent on Windows with a good VPN, and you won’t get caught. You don’t need linux to torrent safely.

If you’re worried about copyright notices, VPNs can help with that. If you’re worried about viruses, most viruses aim for Windows systems, but you can avoid them by keeping an eye out. There’s viruses for macOS and Linux, but due to the smaller scale of users, most people don’t bother hosting them online.

If you’re afraid your law enforcement is going to bust down your door, that isn’t going to happen even if you torrent hundreds of movies and shows a month. They mainly crack down on the people who host the content, your ISP would probably end your service before you went to court.

That said, if you want a more “secure” operating system, Linux can help beyond tormenting. Fedora, Linux Mint, Debian, are all solid choices for your first time use. Just know there’s going to be a learning curve, and if it gives you an error, read it carefully and search online, as others have had the issue before and are willing to help.

QuietStorm,

thank you for all this info.

over_clox,

Keeping an eye out for viruses? 😂🤣

Guess you missed the recent exploit with RAR archives where malicious actors can execute code without you even knowing, conveniently not long after Windows integrated RAR support.

Keep an eye out for what? Any RAR from this year forward can carry a hidden embedded virus.

Euphoma,

Do you mean the winrar exploit? I don’t know of or can find any other exploit related to rar files. If this is what you mean, it only affects winrar which is only on windows and most people use 7zip anyways.

over_clox,

RAR is an archive format. Whether people use RAR or not today is besides the point, it’s an archive format. Many people (including myself) still have RAR archives from 20 years ago.

You think I’m just gonna ditch 2 decades of archives because of a security flaw recently discovered? I literally can’t, unless I just said fuckit, lemme burn my whole existence down and start over. Cuz someone on the net says they like 7zip better…

Now don’t take that the wrong way, I get it. 7zip most likely is more secure. But I can’t just jump ship and burn all my previous archives in a bonfire, nor am I about to try converting terabytes of archives from RAR to 7zip.

Also, RAR is totally a thing on Linux, as well as Wine…

django, (edited )

Hey, I’d like to help here with some clarification: the vulnerability affected winrar, not the RAR archive format. In fact, it happened when opening zip files, not rar files.

7zip is not only capable of extracting 7z archives, but also zip and rar. Thus using 7zip to open a malicious archive would prevent you from being a victim of said attack, which is what the previous author meant.

So you wouldn’t need to change the archive format of your existing files, as this was only about not using winrar to open possibly malicious archives.

arstechnica.com/…/winrar-0-day-that-uses-poisoned…

nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2023-38831

over_clox,

I’d suggest Kali. Use responsibly…

www.kali.org

QuietStorm,

well ill do my best to follow your order but do i need a vpn?

db2,

Yes. You always will.

QuietStorm,

im very sorry but i cant afford a vpn because im a teen with no job and my family dosent see the point in using vpns unless your part of a big company, which annoys me at times.

db2, (edited )

You probably shouldn’t torrent anything dicier than Linux ISOs then.

601error,
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Tell them if no VPN, they’re getting sued by a bunch of copyright holders.

BCsven,
Euphoma,

p2p traffic for torrenting isn’t enabled on proton vpn free version. So using it would not protect your torrenting.

BCsven,

Ahh, OK. their paid plan is reasonable, plus you get email, drive, calendar, and password manager

stifle867,

Consider your threat model. Billion dollar mega corporations have no interests in going after jobless teenagers.

over_clox,

That’s not any sort of order, just a suggestion. Others may indeed have better advice than me.

_thebrain_,

Err kali isnt particularly privacy focused or piracy focused. It has its palace but it’s not really a daily driver imo

over_clox,

I didn’t say it was meant as a daily driver in the first place. If you want a private system, it should be isolated from your public system.

Never log in on your private system, half the problem solved. Want full privacy, use a VPN and/or Tor along with that.

Chewt,

You can’t get around not having a VPN if you don’t want your ISP to know you are doing. Sounds like you might not have a complete idea of what exactly a VPN is doing and why you need one.

variants,

You can use usenet to not use a VPN but then you are paying for the indexers and servers so still not free

db2,

I remember when it was free. 👴

TheObserver,
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Usenet is king! All hail usenet!

aksdb,

Which service do you recommend?

variants,

So there’s a map somewhere online about which backbones there are, usually I try one server for a year and maybe get a block from another server depending if it’s on a different backbone and their black Friday deals.

I currently am using eweka as the service and for indexers I’m on drunkenslug and nzbgeek

Diffuser5593,

I use NZBGeek as my indexer and Frugal as my newsserver. Have been happy so far.

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