Switch 2 would arrive in the second half of 2024 and development kits are already out

The successor to Nintendo Switch named Switch 2 will continue to be a hybrid console that can be played on TV and in portable mode, it will be launched without an OLED screen (it will have an LCD) and it will have cartridges/cards for physical games , according to various sources. Anonymous to VGC, where they say that the device is “likely” to hit stores in the second half of 2024. They add that there are already development studios outside the Japanese company with the development kit.

Purplexingg,

If this is real fuck you Nintendo, so bull shit for not just making it oled. There’s a $50 difference right now between the regular and oled variant which could 100% just be worked into the new switch pricing. You just know they’re releasing the oled model 1-3 years after launch so people buy again.

KoofNoof,

I have an OLED model and cringed when I saw it will have LCD. It will honestly probably feel like a downgrade for me.

I already mostly play in handheld just because the visuals look so much better compared to my TV

PeleSpirit,

Look for sales, an OLED tv is a life changer.

ClopClopMcFuckwad,
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    PeleSpirit,

    You obviously haven’t discovered 4k nature channels on an oled then, I keep it on while I work and then look up and see all kinds of beautiful scenery and it calms me. I’m being legit when I say it’s life changing. The reds and blacks are amazing.

    JasSmith,

    I get you, but there is much value in learning to appreciate - truly appreciate - the smaller things in life. A good roast of coffee first thing on a cold winter's morning can be life changing, at least in its small part and moment. Many of us spend many hours with our televisions, and a great TV can also be life changing. I find life much more enjoyable when I appreciate the thousands of wonderful moments in between the traditionally "life changing" ones.

    Todgerdickinson,

    They are just being hyperbolic. Sir this is a Nintendos.

    Macaroni_ninja,
    @Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world avatar

    Then vote with your wallet. Don’t buy something for more money, which have inferior features to the last generation product. This is clearly a case of monetiseing exclusivity and FOMO to sell you something which was not designed to last.

    Anamana,
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    Perfect time to buy the switch 1 OLED when it comes out

    Chadus_Maximus,

    Why not get a Steam Deck and emulate Nintendo games instead? Along the thousands of games you play on Steam…

    KoofNoof,

    Too bulky for me

    ImFresh3x,

    Switch emulators have weird stuttering, frame rate, and various issues. I should know I tried to emulate them. It was a mess. Also, a lot of people really don’t want a handheld with all the hassles of a PC. People like consoles because they’re simple. Hence why the switch has sold like 150 million, and the steam deck has sold like 1.5 million.

    probablyaCat,

    Switch has been out a lot longer and has a bigger company behind it. I don't think anyone ever expected SD to catch up in sales. However, the SD has clearly had an impact on the handheld market. And without tinkering, it functions way more like a console than a full PC.

    And I don't know what setup you used for switch emulation, but I've emulated several switch games with perfect success. I certainly mostly play my switch games on switch, but I've put a handful on the deck for travel and it's been great. Along with my 3ds games since my actual 3ds went to electronics heaven.

    Anamana,
    @Anamana@feddit.de avatar

    Why buy a steam deck when you can emulate Nintendo games on your PC?

    danc4498,

    They probably have a lot of old LCD screens they need to get rid of.

    Honestly, I saw that and was grateful that I won’t have the urge to buy it.

    Kichae,

    The Switch has a screen? I've never really noticed mine.

    Chriszz,

    I’m pretty fed up with Nintendo at this point not planning to buy a new console

    _haha_oh_wow_,
    @_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I bought a Steam Deck and it’s amazing. 10/10 would recommend. Never really play my Switch anymore.

    Captain_Ender,

    I'm probably in the minority, but I don't mind a cheaper LCD model. The only time I see my switch screen is when I'm moving it from my living room dock to my bedroom dock. The only time I really use portables is like 8+hr flights, literally sits hidden under my TV 24/7 rest of time so I don't really need it to have a fancy screen. As long as both models have the same dock performance, I'm fine with it.

    Centillionaire,

    The people here really don’t understand Nintendo. They want the console to be as cheap as possible to get it to the most hands as possible and then make the real money on the games. Mom and dad see the price tag isn’t too bad and pull the trigger. Everything has a cost, including an OLED screen Vs LCD (presumably IPS).

    TwilightVulpine,

    Maybe but not all that much. Among all consoles, Nintendo Switch is the only one whose hardware is profitable.

    someguy3,

    only one whose hardware is profitable

    Really? Virtually all consoles aren’t, I expected the switch wasn’t. The Wii was, which really boosted their profits.

    TwilightVulpine,

    Yeah, it’s one of the reasons they stick to weaker hardware.

    mayo,
    @mayo@lemmy.world avatar

    Sales: 5.22 million standard Nintendo Switches, OLED 7.69 million units, 2 million Switch Lites. unit sales were down -21.3% year-on-year due to the global chip shortage, though the OLED Switch almost doubled its sales figures compared to the previous FY. 2023 - techspot

    I have a switch lite. It costs me $140CDN used (as opposed to $250-$300 for an OLED). No complaints. Just wish I could play games like RDR2, Ubisoft on it.

    electrogamerman,

    I mean definitely fuck Nintendo, but why would people fall for that?

    TwilightVulpine,

    Weren’t there rumors that they actually meant to release a new model years ago, but between the Pandemic and the Chip Shortage, they couldn’t get what they needed?

    That said, with things like the GBA SP, the DSi and the New 3DS, it isn’t off-brand for Nintendo to release minor improvements along the way.

    curiousaur,

    I’d bet money that the dev kits are just LCD, and there will be a huge revision between the dev kits and the finished product. Historically early dev kits look nothing like the actual console.

    V0lD,

    The screen on a handheld really doesn’t matter.

    If you cared about visuals, you wouldn’t play in a handheld, in the same way that if you want to watch high quality video, you don’t watch it on your phone either.

    The additional resources it needs are wasted on such a tiny screeb

    someguy3,

    It’s not going to be the Switch U?

    yoavlavi,

    I heard that they’ve named it the “SwitchCube Advance SP 3DS”

    Hotdogman,

    Oh… not the turbo edition then. Lame.

    Chongochingi,

    I’ll still call it a Gameboy

    SgtAStrawberry,

    Wasn’t supposed to be called The new Switch U deluxe?

    Chailles,
    @Chailles@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m voting for the SwIItch (or Swiitch)

    NecessaryWeevil,

    Unless I’m missing something here, this website does not provide a link to the original source and adds little to the discussion. They don’t even refer to them by their full name.

    This is the original source: videogameschronicle.com/…/sources-nintendo-switch…

    This is considered to be very scummy behavior not just in games journalism, but in journalism in general. If you can’t do your own coverage, at least have basic respect for the people who can.

    simple,

    What’s worse is that the title states this as fact when the original article claims it’s rumors from close sources, we don’t actually know when it’s coming or if dev kits are widely available.

    woelkchen, (edited )
    @woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

    Let’s call it what it is: blog spam. Probably falling under the low effort rule.

    Goronmon,

    Don't you see. The Switch 2 may have an LCD or an OLED screen! It also may, or may not, have backwards compatibility with the first Switch! It also may, or may not, release in 2024!

    How can anyone not be potentially excited about these things that may, or may not, be true!

    Jmr,

    It may or may not be able to take us to Mars

    RisingSwell,

    I mean, it probably has the computing power to do it. That’s not a super high bar given what we got to the moon with though.

    EzekielJK,

    My heart says “maybe”

    theragu40,

    SEO centric content farms are a cancer on the internet and on information in general. We have the capability of democratically crowd sourcing the absolute best quality information out there, and make it available to anyone in the blink of an eye.

    Instead we have an army of bots lazily rehashing half-content found on forums and reposting it as misconstrued fact, while battling with other bots for the top third of google’s increasingly godforsaken, ad-ridden search results page. All so us poor sods can be interested in something, search for it, and be consistently disappointed in the results we get back while our data is sold to people who will actively work to make the situation worse.

    It’s truly a sad thing to behold.

    dinckelman,

    The improved hardware will be a colossal improvement, but what we really need is some kind of a game pass alternative. Sometimes I want to just play MK8 with the homies but I don’t want to pay 60+dlc for a game i’ll be playing once every 3 months

    Blackmist,

    Don’t worry. Nintendo always keep up with the latest gaming trends. It just takes them an extra decade to get there…

    They’re hanging on to that old business model that’s served them well over the years, and I presume still does. BotW was a launch title, over 6 years old, and it’s still full price even now. Even emulation being possible while the platform is still current doesn’t put them off.

    Guess they’ll rethink it when it stops working.

    dinckelman,

    It’ll never stop working for the same reasons why Apple does business they way they do it. If you design your stuff a very specific way, only allow people to run software on your specific hardware, and also strictly control distribution, people will have no choice other than to spend what you’re asking. And since people continue doing that, that’s the reason why the new Zelda game is 70 Euro instead of 60, and why MK8 will never go on sale below 20% off

    Blackmist,

    It only really stops working when people go “wait, I can buy Nintendo and pay 70 a game, or I can buy Sony/Xbox and GamePass/PSN Extra for the same price and have games all year”.

    It’s especially a no-brainer if you have kids who finish games in a week because they have all of the time but none of the money.

    JackbyDev,

    Going back to LCD is shitty. If they fix joycon drift I’ll forgive it.

    Hyperi0n,

    They won’t. It’s likely to up a slight hardware improvement and different size carts so you have to buy Switch 2 only games.

    saffron,

    That’s my 2024 Xmas list then!

    Jmr,

    All Nintendo needs is a game library subscription kind of thing. I don’t want to pay £70 for Super Mario Wii U Switch 2 4K

    A2PKXG,
    @A2PKXG@feddit.de avatar

    I’ll rather pay once that 10 bucks a month for the next 36 months. I also like still having the game in 15 years, after the servers have been shut down, and when i wouldnt pay a monthly fee

    RedAggroBest,

    Amd then theyre stuck with a game they bought full price to play once for shits n giggles. Game passes are great for getting to try out games you might not play otherwise or would only want to play once.

    MeanEYE,
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    Steam’s approach is best. Buy the game at any price, frequently discounted, return any time without questions if you played less than 2h and two weeks of ownership. I think that’s incredibly fair. Plus you get to keep your games should Steam ever go under.

    HC4L,

    Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that’s what they’ll make us do.

    And paying 70 bucks for the first party games. Really can’t wait!

    CerineArkweaver,

    Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that’s what they’ll make us do

    This is what the SteamDeck (or ASUS ROG Ally) is for my friend 😊

    DaisyLee,

    Steam Deck exists people. Basically replaced my Switch for everything not first party exclusive

    mesamunefire,

    Heck, with yuzu it did replace the switch.

    I have all my switch, steam, itch.io, gog, ect…all in one console.

    drmoose,

    I’m not even sure my Switch works anymore tbh - Steamdeck completely replaced it for me. The games are cheaper, run better and it’s a full blown PC that can do so many things including emulation.

    ladel,

    Sounds like it will be a switch with upgraded internals… Which is fine, but a bit un-Nintendo-like when you look at their history.

    thepianistfroggollum,

    Hopefully they’re not switching to the Apple business model.

    ProxyZeus,
    @ProxyZeus@lemmy.world avatar

    DS->DS Lite->DSi->DSi XL->3DS->3DS XL->New 3DS XL I think it tracks perfectly

    pgetsos,
    @pgetsos@kbin.social avatar

    DS lite, DSi, DSi XL were just iterations of the original DS. Same with 3DS family. These weren't a new console, only 2 consoles - DS and 3DS

    Voyajer,
    @Voyajer@kbin.social avatar

    The DSi was a hardware upgrade and so was the New 3DS.

    pgetsos,
    @pgetsos@kbin.social avatar

    It was a PS4 Pro situation. It was still the DS family, same games etc. A Switch 2 with only updated internals would be totally different, it won't be the same console

    TheDarkKnight,

    Fine, Wii > Wii U

    pgetsos,
    @pgetsos@kbin.social avatar

    How were Wii and WiiU similar in anything but the name?

    GeekSquad1992,

    The GameCube, Wii, and Wii U all use the same basic setup: PowerPC G3 CPU and an ATi/AMD GPU with an upgrade each generation. They are, in effect, very similar to how the PS4 and Xbox One started their own current trends. In fact, the Wii U can run GameCube games natively with some effort, and Wii games out of the box.

    pgetsos,
    @pgetsos@kbin.social avatar

    But WiiU is anything but a Wii in another case. It is completely different in how you play the games through the controller and different to what the first comment was saying

    Dark_Blade,
    @Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

    NES -> SNES.

    brenstar,

    If it ain’t broke don’t switch it!

    someguy3,

    The Switch line was great because it integrated their console and handheld lines into one. They won’t go away from that.

    ladel,

    For better or worse, they don’t always stick to a winning formula (see the Wii U). I think it would be cool if they added a lid to protect the screen… Maybe another screen in the lid?

    someguy3, (edited )

    Wii U stuck to it. Same motion based, same wiimote along with new pad, same CD style. They marketed it very, very badly

    Jarmer,

    I do not care about the screen tech one bit, I think LCD is fine for handheld if the price is low, but what I DO care about is using somewhat modern cpu/gpu so games don’t constantly lag even trying to hit 30fps. That’s by far my biggest complaint about the Switch 1. So if they can fix that then I’m on board! If not, I’ll probably just honestly pirate everything and play it on my computer where it won’t run like dog ass.

    Captain_Ender, (edited )

    Yeah it has to be 4KHDR 30fps and 4KSDR/QHD 60fps docked to even market its difference. That's the standard now. It's like having an SD console during the Xbox/PS3 gen. So it needs a proper APU to be able to keep every game stable or have the new dock have an eGPU.

    Centillionaire,

    Exactly. It’s like when you start an RPG game where you choose how many points to put into each category. If Nintendo has $300 and puts most into CPU/GPU and not as much into screen, then I’m gonna be super happy. People forget that when the OLED switch came out, the other components were cheaper to buy, making room in the budget for the OLED screen.

    When components for the Switch 2 get discounted for Nintendo to buy, then they will add an OLED screen.

    JasSmith,

    Yeah it can barely handle Breath of the Wild. Some of the new AMD APUs are really impressive, so I hope they make the jump. However for compatibility and cost I think they'll just go with an upgraded Tegra.

    slumlordthanatos,

    Yeah, BotW was cutting it close, while Tears of the Kingdom really is too much for the Switch. I got real tired of the framerate taking a dive every time I used Ultrahand.

    MrQuallzin,

    I’m really surprised I haven’t had any major framerate drops in TotK. I’m using my launch-day system, so as old as they get, and playing hand-held almost exclusively it’s been pretty darn smooth.

    RisingSwell,

    For the few hours I bothered with totk I never had any lag either, also a launch switch. Maybe I didn’t go in far enough, but it ran smoothly all the time.

    Molecular0079,

    It would be interesting if they made the jump to x86, but in addition to what you mentioned, I don’t think they’d go for it due to the extra power and thermal requirements. I think people would bash on Nintendo if the Switch 2 was way beefier in form factor compared to the Switch 1.

    JasSmith,

    I think you're right on all counts, but RDNA 3, due out next year, is claimed to achieve a 54% increase in performance-per-watt. They could limit clocks/power and achieve similar levels of battery life with significant performance gains; all while keeping thermals down. One can dream!

    Molecular0079,

    I hope those rumors are true! Those RDNA 3 performance gains could do wonders for the handheld PC market as well.

    Jarmer,
    @Jarmer@kbin.social avatar

    Since the steam deck 2 will make use of the amazing gains, I wonder if people will really start considering the Deck as an alternative to Switch 2. There's already a TON of overlap in the indy game scene. SO many of those release on both Steam and Switch.

    Obviously the hardcore Nintendo IP fans will stick with Switch 2, but outside of that ... ???

    The Deck has really been a game changer!

    LegendofDragoon,
    @LegendofDragoon@kbin.social avatar

    I wouldn't mind a beefier switch, the original always feels so fragile in my meaty mitts

    Dark_Blade,
    @Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

    ARM chips have seen massive gains too. If they use a sufficiently powerful chip, then I’m sure they could easily match the performance of a PS4.

    RealFknNito,
    @RealFknNito@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah but… Steam Deck.

    Simmy,

    They should name it, Switched.

    atticus88th,

    Super Switch

    Potfarmer,

    What a strange business decision, especially given their comment about wanting to convert as many switch users to the next console as possible. On one hand this makes Nintendo look incredibly greedy, not at all a good look. On the other I feel this has to be done based on user data from the Switch right? Surely they are going by the data showing OLED sales were low and more users prefer to play docked… Right? RIGHT Nintendo? Personally I just find it annoying, I picked up my switch 6 months before they announced the OLED version, and got mildly screwed out of a slightly improved experience. NOT this time though Nintendo, I’ll just bloody wait. I don’t consider myself a particularly unusual person either, if I’m willing to wait for the “pro” version then I imagine many others will too. Perhaps Nintendo intends to split the docked and undocked consoles, focusing more on a “docked” Switch edition that has a worse screen, and a portable Switch with a better screen etc. Sort of like the way they split the 3DS with the 2DS, then again Nintendo has done the “two console” thing for a long long time, OG Gameboy Advance and the SP, DS and DS Lite, 3DS and DS, they even did the Wii and the WiiU, Switch and Switch OLED… So I guess actually it makes perfect sense they would screw their customers for some extra moolah, sigh.

    someguy3,

    The Switch was great because it combined the two product lines of console and handheld into one. They won’t split them completely, just have one that’s slightly better screen.

    Zarxrax,

    As opposed to the other source a couple days ago which said it will launch in March.

    Uli,

    And I’ve just made my own source which says it’s already launched.

    merthyr1831,

    cant get your games emulated on the steamdeck if the platform is too powerful to run on the steamdeck :^)

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