This may seem kind of stupid but I am kind of stupid, is there a list somewhere of phrases that are stupid or insensitive racially or gender biased?

I just got up from conversation with a couple of older black men, that I said “well I got to go back to work and start cracking the whip.” And it occurred to me then that it was probably a really insensitive stupid thing to say.

Sadly, it hadn’t occurred to me until it’s already said.

AnarchistArtificer,

This is a great list for ableist terms . autistichoya.com/…/ableist-words-and-terms-to-avo…I’m disabled in multiple ways and there were a few on here that caused me to re-evaluate my lexicon.

A list has limited use because language evolves, and so do people, and on top of that, context is everything — but it can be a good place to start

PotentiallyAnApricot,

Hey I just want to say i think this is a really good question and I’m glad you asked it. So many things get recycled into the language and we don’t know/ever get taught their original meanings. I think it’s good to look into, not just to avoid social slip ups, but because language and idioms have an impact on how we think about things. I’m glad to have these links on my radar

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yesman,

For years I used the term “shylock” as a pejorative for greedy people while being ignorant of the connotations of using the characters name that way. I didn’t even know it was from a Shakespeare play.

nothacking,

Unfortunately, this keeps changing. Old slurs get recycled or forgotten, and new words become offensive. Corporate guidelines are often hugely overbroad to avoid offending anyone. The best way to avoid things like what just happened, by checking slang in a dictionary before using it.

skullgiver, (edited )
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  • dorron, (edited )

    jumping off point

    Woah there, corporate informs me this is insensitive to Lemmings

    Lemmy HR will be in touch

    Cinner, (edited )

    I fucking hate n********. Usually. I preferred living in the country. Both of them that I have right now suck. The one to the right of me leaves their pitbull out all night in the snow and I’ve called animal control multiple times after confronting her and even suggesting I buy her a heated dog house. The new one that just moved in to the left of me walked into my fenced backyard without as much as a knock because he wanted to mess with the fence. Some old Santa looking biker dude.

    George Carlin had a lot to say about this. The 7 Dirty Words.

    Once he read a headline where it said verbatim, ”John McCain to [some politician]: F*** Y**"

    Everyone knows exactly what “F*** Y**” means, no one is unclear and they think it when they read it, but if the paper were to have the words ACTUALLY printed out so people saw them instead of just thinking them? Oh my gosh, the moral dilemma that would bring!

    rbhfd,

    Is this Grok output?

    Cinner,

    Neighbors. Come on man. You’ve never hated your neighbors?

    It’s an old joke. Older than your mom probably.

    youtu.be/TLnUJzueBOQ?si=Q7_STRptccZ4hnTG

    pingveno, (edited )

    Oof. At work we currently have a project for words deemed insensitive. For the most part I think it’s worthy, but some things are overboard. The project group cast a very wide net, ignoring context and etymology. My biggest disagreement is over “black” and “white”.

    Take “black box” and “white box” for types of testing. These are based merely on the properties of light. I have serious doubts about anyone ever having felt excluded by their use. And yet, we’re wasting time coming up with non-standard nomenclature to satisfy this supposed slight. There’s a whole laundry list of words like this.

    xor,

    I’m still mad about git master

    Master as in “the master copy”

    And they went and broke a bunch of tools and workflows to change it

    pingveno, (edited )

    Yeah, master has a few uses like this. Master bedrooms came about in the 20th century and had nothing to do with slavery. Then there is master in a pupil setting, though that is fairly uncommon in the US anyway. It’s more of a European/UK thing I think.

    Again, I have nothing against changing things that are genuinely problematic. I just have a problem with busy work that is being demanded for items that aren’t actually offensive.

    AdolfSchmitler,

    You should call them “box that absorbs all light” and “box that absorbs no light” you fucking racist

    TheAnonymouseJoker,
    @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

    Saying “I am hungry” or similar phrasing usage in Hungary can get you arrested.

    HexesofVexes,

    “Seek offence and you shall find it” - The secret mantra of Tumblr users

    It’s a tricky one because if someone wants to be offended, they definitely will be. I once knew a guy who, for some reason, found the use of the word “slug” (in any context) intensely offensive. To this day, no-one ever learned why.

    vivadanang,

    where does everyone stand on cretin? IMHO it’s medical use is obsolete afaik, so really it’s just an insult right?

    kboy101222,

    I think it’s medical and insulting use are obsolete lmao

    vivadanang,

    I dunno man, cretin perfectly describes Trump…

    kWazt,

    He’s wealthy, or at least he’s treated as such most of the time, so the word you’re looking for is eccentric.

    vivadanang,

    No, shitbag, fuckwit and narcissistic treason douche are all more appropriate than eccentric.

    being rich doesn’t mean you can’t be a fuckwit, and he’s proven it time and again.

    feedum_sneedson,

    Isn’t it somebody that experienced an iodine deficiency in childhood. There’s a particular look, he doesn’t have it.

    vivadanang,

    No, you’re thinking of hypothyroidism (iodine deficiency)…

    feedum_sneedson,

    I’m thinking of cretinism.

    Melatonin,

    I think it might have originated in the Bible. Paul says in Titus‬ ‭1:12‭-‬13‬ ‭NIV‬‬

    "One of Crete’s own prophets has said it: ‘Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.’ This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith.

    I always found it comical that Paul, the great apostle, endorsed this stereotype of the people of Crete.

    nitefox,

    phrases that are stupid

    We haven’t invented a storage big enough for that yet

    About the others, there are some obvious ones but other than that it mostly depends on context and culture. Some pointed the ricing thing for Linux, but I don’t think anyone in the community, myself included, thought about Asian ppl when calling themselves a ricer; nor I think it’s racist, so again: aside for obvious insults or widely known slurs, it basically falls back to context

    SpezBroughtMeHere,

    You’re overthinking it. You didn’t say anything insensitive or stupid. It will offend some people, but they are usually looking at how to be a victim and that gives them an opportunity. It’s just words, don’t worry about it so much.

    HandBreadedTools,

    This is wrong. What OP said was very much offensive, comparing yourself to that of a slaver. It is a rare figure of speech, and while not intentional it is still offensive. However, the context of who you’re talking to doesn’t matter, it is an offensive statement regardless of the history of the person you’re saying it to.

    For OP: it is okay to make a mistake, especially when you recognize it.

    cheese_greater,

    You can’t be stupid, otherwise you’d be on Reddit 😊

    TheGiantKorean,
    @TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

    When I was younger, I thought the term “cracker” referred to white people being pale like a cracker that you’d eat. I did not realize until later that it was referring to whipping.

    chaos,

    Oh, fuck. This would have been nice to know sooner.

    vagrantprodigy,

    To be fair, in Florida at least it referred primarily to the whips used to drive cattle, not anything slavery related.

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_cracker

    pastabatman,

    I’m 38 and I did not know this.

    ULS,

    So you’re telling me Saltines aren’t part of my American heritage?

    Thisfox,

    Huh. Never heard of that before. But then, am Aussie and don’t know much yank idiom.

    BellaDonna,

    Whip cracker is actually probably false etymology, like a retcon of the origin that is popular, but actually not true.

    TheGiantKorean,
    @TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, after I posted that, I did some searches and found lots of possible origins. I just remember being told the whip crack thing by a black friend of mine.

    lolcatnip,

    Ok but “Cracker Barrel” still refers to the customers, right?

    hightrix,

    No. It refers to the answer a man gives when asked about their bathroom experience.

    “Did you use your Cracker Barrel?”

    Kwakigra,
    @Kwakigra@beehaw.org avatar

    This is a misled approach. Rather than trying to list out the myriad phrases in our language based on historical prejudice, it’s better to just understand that prejudice yourself so you can determine what you want to perpetuate and what you don’t. That being said this won’t prevent something like this from ever happening again, and sometimes things you would never guess are rooted in white supremacy or other ism. No one knows the full extent of it themselves and no one is expected to know everything. If it happens on occasion and you realize it like this and avoid it in the future it’s fine for most people. If you keep saying something you don’t realize is messed up and stop when you learn it’s messed up, that’s also fine. It’s only when it’s obvious that you know it’s wrong but you insist on doing it or get defensive about how it shouldn’t be a big deal when it becomes a real issue.

    detectivemittens,

    100%. We’re all human and so many phrases are just in the vernacular.

    I grew up hearing the word “gypped”. I didn’t know that’s how it was spelled (thought it was jipped.) It wasn’t until I was in college that I realized gypped -> Gypsy and extremely offensive. I’m still embarrassed that it took me that long to figure out.

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