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force,

god damn new generation cats don’t know what work is

force, (edited )

Aw what? I’m trying to move to Slovakia partially because I want to escape this nonsense (though also because my grandfather’s family is Slovak-Hungarian and I like Slovak language), this is devastating news for my distaste for being crushed by large objects travelling at fast speeds

force,

To be fair I’m pretty sure Abrams (and most other modern western tanks) have really good driver’s/commander’s sights compared to any vehicle at all

force,

Oh, gotcha

force,

only $42 / month

jesus christ as if i needed even more reason not to be addicted to nicotine

force,

romania (and the rest of eastern europe) have almost non-existent theft rates compared to literally all of western/northern europe, except for spain and portugal because everyone in those two are poor so there’s nothing to steal anyways

generally the more prosperous/capitalist the people in a country are the higher the rates of stealing are. this says a lot about our society

force, (edited )

If you’re doing college at 30 you’re probably not stupid, stupid people wouldn’t do school at all when afforded the chance to. Unless they already have a position in the industry they wanted to and a degree wouldnt help advance their career enough to warrant the time and money spent

30 is young, you still have at least a good 10-20 years of enjoying your life ahead of you right

Also idk about in the US but in a large part of Europe you get paid to do a graduate degree (or at least a PhD), and the courses are often in English, if you want to you should totally look at Germany or Slovakia/Czechia or Norway/Finland (although I think Norway recently made tuition no longer free for foreigners), or even Panama or Brazil, you can get free college and cheap housing (well, not in Scandinavia, but the rest of the countries). You should be able to get in depending on the major’s demand, and they’re very nice countries to exist in other than Brazil… although Eastern Europe would probably be a massive culture shock, a lot are pretty “blunt” or “dark” in their mannerisms I guess.

force, (edited )

There isn’t a multiplication symbol though. By your logic something like 8÷2x would mean (8÷2)*x because order of operations

Or if you read 8÷2√x as (8÷2)*√x

Just notate 8÷2(2+2) as 8÷2x; x=(2+2) and you get it, you can substitute any complete expression with a variable in an equation and the logic stays the same.

force,

The UK is as much of a member of Europe as Greenland is a member of America… you could count it, but you could also just not. When people are talking about North America they’re usually not thinking about Greenland. In the same way, the UK is often not considered when talking about Europe (although it is more tied to mainland history). When people say Europe they often mean to exclude some countries like the UK or maybe Turkey (but not always).

This may seem kind of stupid but I am kind of stupid, is there a list somewhere of phrases that are stupid or insensitive racially or gender biased?

I just got up from conversation with a couple of older black men, that I said “well I got to go back to work and start cracking the whip.” And it occurred to me then that it was probably a really insensitive stupid thing to say....

force,

and public transit is either dirty, unreliable, or unsafe?

Or non-existant. See: most of the US (please send help, passenger rail doesn’t exist here and I live less than an hour from a city)

force,

Ah, so France

force, (edited )

The “evidence” is a story in writings aged thousands of years… it is not something we can observe or have physical or visual proof of, all we have is words that go against all scientific evidence, so it’s not “evidence”. You have to actually believe in magic to believe in that kind of stuff, it holds as much salt as any other pseudoscientific garbage.

It’s laughable to say that you must respect the beliefs of people into astrology or flat earth or electric universe or anything of the sorts, and it’s just as laughable to say you have to respect the beliefs of people who believe in supranatural/divine beings. Because false beliefs actually cause harm, and religion especially has caused far more harm than any other pseudoscience (and the amount of good it may have done is extraordinarily outweighed), it is currently causing a lot of harm, and it will likely continue to cause great harm in the future.

I personally value the lives of hundreds of millions to billions of people more than appeasing some long outdated beliefs (and especially the people who exploit those beliefs for personal gain), but that’s just me. I’m agnostic, I don’t choose a belief, there might be some divine being or afterlife but I see that it’s completely insane to propogate any of said beliefs, it causes suffering and has set us back potentially hundreds of years progress-wise.

Honestly all of humanity would probably have much less suffering if it weren’t for organized religion and its consequences, including but not limited to either directly causing or being the biggest contributor to the far-right and fascism & corporatism, and a large amount of general imperialism/authoritarianism (divine right anybody?). Guys banging other guys was the norm in most of the world until Abrahamic religions came along and brainwashed the entirety of the west lol, then it became a heinous crime and caused a over a thousand years of suffering and oppression for gays, people of “heretic” religious beliefs, anyone that opposed the authorities of an organized religion, those who faced the wrath of most imperialism/conquest – which was generally propogated by religion (and would have been a lot less strong without religion scaring people with eternal damnation) in Europe and the Americas and even in Asia, and often in Africa, etc. etc. And now modern religion is once again making society try to regress.

On paper religion alone isn’t bad, but people can’t handle religion, up to this point humans just try to find things to hate each other for and religion is BY FAR the most successful & easy tool to use for that, nothing else comes even close, sure if religion was gone other things may go up in usage as reasons to arbitrarily hate others, but it won’t have even near the power of religion, nothing’s more effective than threatening people with fiery hell for them or their loved ones, or offering them eternal glory in the afterlife, or whatever, because that’s forever and Earth life is temporary!

force, (edited )

The “story” aged thousands of years are several historical documents that popped up in the first century,

Several conflicting documents that give completely different accounts of the same things, in the same exact book used by the people following this religion.

all talking about a man who was born of a virgin, performed miracles, was crucified, died, was buried, then rose again and ascended into heaven over a month later.

That is something similar to what a LOT of random dudes did at that time period, Jesus was no different than the others, he was just “lucky” that he blew up.

They don’t contradict and have marks of being an honest account.

Yeah that is just verifiably incorrect. You can probably just jump to a random part of the Bible and find contradictions, but the easiest one is the differing accounts of Jesus’ ressurection – there is no consistent story, the details are wildly different from each perspective in a way that makes them disagree with each other heavily. It’s a testament to how warped rumors like that can get over a short period of time, especially ehen there’s no reality to base it off of.

And then there are accounts which are not even from people who believe the guy. So this “story” which is about God coming down to earth in flesh, and rising from the dead was large enough to cause several of these documents to appear and then only a few hundred of years later have more archaeological evidence appear showing signs of an early church.

You can say the exact same shit about any religion, say Islam. Christianity isn’t special, this is typical religion and pseudoscience stuff. I can say the same about ancient world mythology.

It was big enough for us to start counting years from roughly when this Guy was born.

Yes, we count years like this because a cult took over the center of the civilized world, we also count the months July and August because a guy was the ruler of an empire that fell over a century ago lol. That doesn’t exactly make all the mythologisms about ancient emperors any more true either.

“Because it was/is popular” is not an argument with any substance and it does not help your claims.

But what archaeological trace would Jesus leave personally? He lived a life in the same land, didn’t own an army, wasn’t a king, possibly didn’t even have a house. So the writings we have are obviously the best evidence for Him.

That’s not exactly a good excuse for bad evidence that goes against science, literal verifiable facts of nature. Any nutjob can just point to stupid things like that as evidence and it’d hold the same amount of value.

Y>ou refer to pseudoscience. Is this stuff like miracles and Jesus rising from the dead? We don’t believe that science can allow someone to rise themselves from the dead, rise others, turn water to wine, etc. Which is why it was kind of a big deal when Jesus did it.

Except he never did it. It was a big deal to peasants when random people claimed he did it many decades after the fact, sure, but that goes for any infectious lie.

Christianity has not set us back. In fact, quite the opposite. The Catholic church spurred on most early scientific research.

Sure, but this would have happened in a similar time period regardless – look at e.g. China, which actually became more developed and wealthy than the west some time after Christianity successfully took over the Roman Empire. China only started lagging behind during the increasingly secularizing renaissance, when their own religious philosophy consumed their state and caused them to devolve, and they closed themselves off to the world. Europe could have been much farther ahead if religion didn’t slow them down immensely.

Also worth noting that Athiests held back the idea of the big bang happening because the scientific consensus at the time was that the universe always existed and that the idea of a beginning was a Christian belief.

“Athiests” are a lot less of a similar, generalizable grouping than “Christians”, since Athiesm is the default and there isn’t anything that can exactly tie together athiests culturally or even belief wise, “atheism” is about as effective of a religious grouping as “theism”. But regardless of religion people can have stupid scientific beliefs.

Basically all capitalism goes against what Jesus said

That doesn’t stop people – as I said, religion itself isn’t inherently bad, but it really just serves as a tool for people to use to do bad stuff.

and is grounded in a belief in no god

A majority of nations that were/are extremely Christian and extremely capitalist disagree with you my friend. Capitalism and corporatism were built on Christianity, then exported to infect the rest of the world.

I fail to see how it has anything to do with religion except lack thereof.

Again, capitalism was built by religious people, in a religious culture, and thrived because of the regressive beliefs propogated by organized religion. The entire justification for monarchies and conservatism for a large portion of the world was religion, religious justification of hierarchies that put wealthy royals at the top and the majority of the population at the bottom is why anti-peasantry was the norm for so long, it’s why we’ve continued this dynamic of a large poor population that generates all the value against a small rich population, religion has dictated European politics for a millennium and a half, the religious people who controlled the god damn continent would have put an end to this LONG beforehand if it were an actual morally positive thing.

In fact, Cadbury’s was run by Christians

EVERYBODY is a Christian in such cultures, they have to be because Christians label otherwise as a bad trait. In these cultures, being religious is synonymous with being moral, even though it’s not true at all. I’m pretty sure the UK has never had a publicly athiest monarch, and no publicly athiest prime ministers until the 20th century, and the US has had no athiest presidents ever.

I fail to see how Capitalism is any religion but the lack of one, or it’s own.

See above.

Hitler - Claimed to be a Christian, but very much wasn’t. Was only doing it to try and appease. May have claimed islam was a better religion at one point. Imprisoned clergy for speaking out.

As I said, people use religion as a tool to control. This literally corroborates what I said. It doesn’t matter what they actually believe, it matters what they spew out to everyone else – religion is fine if you shut up about it. But the entire concept of widespread religion is being like an infectious disease, it’s supposed to spread as much as possible and get as much of a hold in society as possible, and those people are brainwashed by the organized religion to believe stupid but extremely harmful shit. It is practically impossible to have a religion like that and it not only be used as a tool for evil.

Mussolini - Was a big athiest, brutalised Priests and Catholics who opposed him.

Roman Catholicism was the state religion of Fascist Italy. The church generally leaned towards tolerating or supporting Italian fascism. Italy is still noticeably fucked up politically today because of this, they are the closest modern example to a religious state in the west due to how much Catholicism has its roots sinked into it, and it causes the country to legally be ass-backwards in many ways.

Franco: - Roman Catholic, I’d give you that one. But I doubt it had anything to do with the faith and not power

It’s both, it is using religion to consolidate, justify, and project power.

Other states that caused mass murders? Soviet Russia - Athiest. Maoist China - Athiest.

Of course, as I said though – athiesm isn’t an entity, it isn’t an organized thing like Christianity or whatever. You cannot morally implicate athiesm/agnosticism like you can implicate organized beliefs, it’s just illogical. You might be able to make an argument that you can implicate anti-thiesm, though, connecting oppressing religion with authoritarianism. But even that’s a stretch, the anti-theism wasn’t a massive justification or drive/focus, it was just a side-effect of trying to oppress people to be “non-problematic” to the state. Meanwhile religion is usually the primary justification for authoritarianism/monarchy, from divine right.

Imperialism would have happened with or without religion. It’s still happening nowadays through capitalism.

Remind me which camp is significantly more popular with devout Christians, Muslims, etc.? The left-leaning/demsoc/socialist camps, or the “I want to decintigrate gay/trans rights, workers rights, and want more conservative corporatism” camp? Sure, a fraction of serious Christians might support human rights, but a majority lean towards or strongly enable the people who want to strip you or your neighbours of their freedom.

So, back to the evidence based argument - How come the belief in these things which are actual ly perfectly reasonable to many should be destroyed.

Flat Earth is perfectly reasonable to many. Scientology is too. So is the belief that modern medicine is bad and essential oils will cure all your ailments!

What makes your opinion that all of this didn’t happen outweigh that it did. How does your belief in whatever dismisses the evidence away outweigh those who don’t?

As I said, it didn’t happen – you’ve been gooled into a lie. There is no viable scientific evidence. Simple as, it goes against science and cannot be proven. Anti-scientific beliefs are only acceptable when you can eventually back them up with observation/precise consistent predictions, which in that case would make it science. The only “predictions” Christians have is “life sucks now, all these natural disasters which are totally not triggered by our destruction of the environment are happening, also the gays have rights, this must be the prophecy coming true!”

force, (edited )

I could literally make the same argument for Athiesm causing harm. Does that mean that I should respond to you by saying “we should destroy Athiesm?”.

As I said, athiesm isn’t an organized belief. People are born athiest (seeing as how your usage of “athiest” also encompasses agnostics). You only get brainwashed later. It’s just illogical to group them like you can group a certain religion or sect.

Or should we realise that both of our religious-based beliefs should be tolerated.

I tolerate religious beliefs that don’t believe in the concept of eternal punishment, or don’t promote the idea that some groups are in any way “lower” (including “more sinful” or “less holy”) than others. Most kinds of Judaism, for example, they’re fine, they don’t have eternal damnation, the entire idea is to be good in your Earthly life. But even that kind of religion eventually branches off into e.g. maniacs that believe the same type of garbage that Christians do, or a theocratic Israeli government subjugating others…

A religion based on a benevolent God kind of falls apart when you consider it chooses to let the majority of people suffer, or it chooses to let the majority of people burn in Hell because they were born into and lived their life in an environment without that religion, or chooses to let people burn in Hell at all. And you save yourself by… believing in one specific random thing that happened before your entire traceable family tree even existed that is just one of many and could easily be the “wrong” one? In the case of Christianity the only thing you can bring in is the “Satan” argument or the “but he gave us free will and then Adam and Eve ate the apple so he makes us all suffer now!”. That is just absurd, and it inherently promotes the idea of punishment as a core of the religion – the religion is based around punishment.

Otherwise – I’ll tolerate religion about as much as I tolerate an Anti-Vaxxer’s beliefs or a Scientologist’s beliefs or a Flat Earther’s beliefs or the beliefs of someone who follows Greek Mythology. Just infectious, harmful brainwashing that shouldn’t be promoted or enabled by the jurisdiction as it is now.

force,

Can you have sex in front of class in schools? Not legally? Huh, that’s oppressive. People should be allowed to have threesomes during parliament.

The argument is silly when you apply it to other things, but religion, oh that’s different. As if wearing religion-mandated clothing somehow deserves more protection than e.g. the ability for people to be nude.

force,

Ah, so you want to abolish figurative language too. I like where this is going

force,

giant, gigantic, ginger, gist, gin, giraffe, gibberish, gingivitis, giblet, giro, giron, gingal, gipsy / gitano, gingili, gigot, girasole, giaour, …

logic, tragic, agile, agism/aging, legit, sigil, magi, magic, argil, algid, aegis, vagile, algin, digit, legible, legislature, surgical, intellegible, …

looks like a lot of palatal affricates to me dawg idk, i think you’re the one doing mental gymnastics trying to justify it not being pronounced the way the creator specified. “gif” the way you ask for just sounds weird

force, (edited )

That is the most anti-linguistic take ever lmao. There is no such thing as an objectively correct pronunciation, both pronunciations of “gif” are valid in the context of most English conversations.

On another note, the guy who created it said it’s pronounced /dʒɪf/, so if any pronunciation is more “correct” it’s the one you hate. It’s not “some people tried to claim”, that’s what it actually is “correctly” pronounced like according to the only one that can come close to being considered an authority on what the correct pronunciation is.

Your comment being so pretentious and stuck-up about you not liking a pronunciation leads me to believe you’re making the whole “we” thing up, and instead of a group of people being dumbasses and laughing at a correct pronunciation, it was just one person (you) malding about it in their head. Because being the kind of person to actually laugh at something like that in real life, face to face, would be too embarrassing for anyone to actually go through with it. God even just reading your comment makes me feel like I’m looking at made-up Reddit stories again…

Also how people speaking other languages handle names doesn’t have anything to do with this, there’s a big difference between calling someone “wrong” for pronouncing a loanword differently than in the parent language because of the languages’ phonetics & phonotactics not aligning with each other, and insisting that everyone else is “wrong” because their completely linguistically valid, common pronunciation challenges your understanding of the language.

Oxford uses /dʒɪf/ as the primary pronunciation with /gif/ as the secondary in most of their resources (although a lot don’t specify a primary or secondary), Dictionary.com lists /dʒɪf/ as the primary pronunciation, some like Merriam-Webster list both equally, Cambridge less consistent but list both. Clearly the people who’s job is language disagree with you, even if you don’t want to ask for linguists to tell you, they literally make the language references you use. If you want to be stubborn and insist on being wrong, so be it.

You can now continue malding about the fact that you use the incorrect pronunciation for the rest of your life, since apparently that’s how you see language.

force, (edited )

If understanding is also the only metric then a hard g would still be preferable. Not only does a written g tend to make people lean to a hard g in my experience, but there’s more words that could be mistaken for a soft g pronunciation.

What? That’s just a silly claim, the word “gift” is generally pronounced [gɪft̚] with the /t/ having no release, often the last consonant isn’t even perceived by speakers, if anything that is extremely easy to mix up with “gif” using a /g/ as opposed using a /dʒ/, compared to any other words (well I guess there’s “jif” the peanut butter brand?). You make a bad argument.

Also yes, if someone pronounced or used a word one way and then went to some theoretical place where everyone else pronounced or used it in a way where it becomes mutually unintelligible, then yes you WOULD be saying it “wrong” if you insisted on pronouncing it in a way nobody can decipher it, if you can call anything in language “wrong”. French speakers can’t just go say shit to Sicilian speakers and expect to be understood.

But no, there are no rules about word construction or pronunciation. The closest thing we have to “rules” is loose standards that people commonly us. And in the context of this conversation, most English standards don’t invoke any sort of phonemic spelling like e.g. Spanish or French or Polish or Korean or whatever. There are no “spelling rules” that dictate that a certain sequence of letters or words has to be pronounced a certain way regardless of context, even according to standards of English. None of that “exceptions” bs, Modern English spelling is mostly based off of a writing system of a language that Modern English speakers wouldn’t even understand, and as such there are only a few sometimes-consistencies-ish, like using certain constructs to differentiate lax vs tense vowels like doubling the following consonant letter vs appending an “e” at the end, when applicable. It’s just infeasible due to the history of the writing system to apply a consistent convention for phonemic spelling without reforming the entire orthography.

This is opposed to, say, French, in which standard spellings have actually consistent throughout the entire language rules for how a certain combination of letters is formally pronounced (regardless of how much French speakers like to claim their spelling is nonsense), sometimes with secondary/uncommon pronunciations, and with exceptions to those rules. And consistent rules for phenomena like liaison. And applying those rules, you can systematically pronounce a majority of words accurately even if you’ve never encountered the language in your life. Here’s a table just for fun: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_orthography#Spelling…

This is not something you can do in English.

And even using the argument of standards, the most common descriptions of Standard English (e.g. Oxford’s dictionaries, Merriam-Webster, AHD) all list both /gɪf/ and /dʒɪf/.

Also you claim that the latter is falling out of favor, but that seems to have come from thin air. All the resources on the matter in the first place are online polls with a small sample size and a lot of bias in terms of the location of the respondants from like a decade ago, idk how you determine that one is more popular than the other in a way other than “I hear X pronunciation more than Y”. The fact that this argument is seen all over the internet and is extremely contentious should be proof enough to show you that that claim is fallacious.

force,

I don’t think you’ve ever had a single bit of education on linguistics in your life and it shows.

force, (edited )

But, there are patterns to the language and using a soft “g” sound doesn’t follow those patterns, so it’s objectively a less correct pronunciation.

Who makes these mystical “rules” that English surely follows? And who says the patterns you see are objectively more correct, there are a ton of other words with “g”/“gi” that pronounce it with a /dʒ/, you have to do some real mental gymnastics to justify one of them being more correct. There is a point where you have to paint a massively arbitrary line to which patterns are more “correct”, it is a completely subjective matter.

Who cares about that guy?

He’s the only one that can be considered an authority on how the word is pronounced LMAO.

He made a mistake, he should have looked up how words are pronounced before trying to get people to mispronounce “gif”.

Pronunciation isn’t based on spelling, it’s the other way around. Writing is a tool made to accomodate language, and said writing isn’t a pronunciation guide. You’re lobotomized if you think otherwise, especially in English. But regardless, see below.

If he’d said it was supposed to be pronounced “dug” people would have just ignored him, but his attempt wasn’t that absurd, it was just slightly wrong, so not everyone ignored him the way they should have.

But he didn’t pronounce it like “dug”. He pronounced it consistently with another common 3-letter word “gin”. Is “gin” wrong now? You can cope with being wrong all you want, but it doesn’t make you less wrong.

It really sounds like you didn’t have friends. The rest of us did.

Yeah no that writing reads like a fake Reddit story, I refuse to believe even the dumbest teenagers would act like that.

Of course it does. How you pronounce things depends on the language you use. How people pronounce the letters “gif” is based on their language. In English, it’s a hard g.

The English writing system isn’t the English language, and the English writing system isn’t consistent enough to make estimations for a pronunciation like that. The only two words in the language that contain “gif” are “gift” and “fungiform”, plus derivatives of course, the latter of which is generally, by standard, pronounced with a /dʒ/ sound. If you think that’s enough basis to go off of to make rules for every other word containing “gif”, and then insist that your pronunciation is “correct”, that’s a you problem.

The same goes for any language – German has mostly-consistent generalized spelling conventions for the language that approximate pronunciation, but a LOT of common words break this convention, including “guken”, “orange”, the ending “-ig”, “toilette”, “vase”, etc. which are pronounced differently than their spelling would lead you to believe. In fact it is most common for Fremdwörter & Lehnwörter to not be spelled typically. Is every German speaker pronouncing those words wrong now? What about Italian languages, which often do the same thing but significantly more? You can look at less and less standardized languages that contain more and more irregularities, until you get to a language like English and see that the “irregularities” in the writing system completely outweigh any actual “regularities” you see and it becomes completely pointless to try to enforce a pronunciation based on a certain spelling. It’s why people learning a language like English or Tibetan or even Danish will have often cite the spelling as an extreme pain point (I can corroborate the first based on my experience teaching ESL), it is an inconsistent orthography where the spelling is almost entirely dependent on the etymology or something else, rather than any current pronunciation.

It’s also convenient how you left out the entire part about the dictionaries. Almost as if that was a silver bullet for your flawed argument and you can’t acknowledge it because it would make you look too crazy. Because the people who are the most looked up on for “correct” language by most English speakers say you’re wrong. Hmmm.

When you consider that a large number of words in English which are spelled the same have different pronunciations or are pronounced wildly phonemically differently by different speakers or in different dialects, like “minute”, “combat”, “perfect”, “read”, “bass”, “close”, “agape”, “object”, “sewer”, “wind”, “wound”… “apricot”, “leisure”, “often”, “crayon”, “either”, “been”, “caramel”, “garage”, “yogurt”… your argument about pronunciation based on “spelling rules” falls apart pretty quickly.

Present your argument on how English works to any linguists or even anyone who has basic knowledge of linguistics and you’ll be laughed out of the room.

force, (edited )

Yeah you see you’ve omitted most of my argument because it’d be absurd to argue against. Including the part which I bolded specifically – the part about e.g. Oxford or Merriam-Webster completely disagreeing with you.

I already mentioned, there are plenty of words with “gi” that say it /dʒ/, including things that end in “-giform” (e.g. “spongiform”, “fungiform”) which has “gif” in it. That on its own disproves your point. You’d have to do some real mental gymnastics to justify it, like “gift is shorter” or “only words that start with gif count”, which is just grasping as straws making arbitrary lines. At that point I could just say “only 3 letter words count” or “gift doesn’t count because the syllable isn’t /gɪf/ but /gɪft/ with a consonant cluster, therefore it’s invalid, only things where “gif” represent a standalone syllable count” or something else. Oh and by the way, some dialects like West Country pronounce gift like it were spelled “yift”, because using a yod is the “original” pronunciation. Since your criteria seems to be if dialects pronounce it that way, that means I can go ahead and pronounce it like “yiff” and be correct in your eyes, no? Or, maybe, maybe, the “correct” pronunciation of a word is THE MANY WAYS WHICH GROUPS CAN BE OBSERVED PRONOUNCING IT rather than some arbitrary prescriptive “correct” way based on stupid and inconsistent arbitrarily made rules, and the idea of one being correct is completely subjectively defined and made up.

Also no, that’s not “how spelling works”, if it were then words like “gimbal” wouldn’t have 2 or more pronunciations (/dʒ/ vs /ɡ/ like in “ɡif”). Spelling is not tied to how language is pronounced, in English it’s roughly tied to how a few random Middle English to Early Modern English dialects spelled and pronounced it, which is extremely detached from how it’s pronounced today – most words used to have over a dozen spellings based on the writer and we created standards based off of multiple arbitrarily picked writing styles. You can pick out a few inconsistencies, but as I said the irregularities vastly outweigh the regularities. This is especially apparent when you look at words that contain strings like “gh”, “gi/ge/gy/ci/ce”, “oo”, actually anything at all with a vowel really.

And who are you to determine what a “slight” difference is? It’s all subjective. Someone with a thick welsh accent, or a rural southern Irish dialect, or who speaks Scottish English, or who has a thick north Indian accent, will have a hard time being understood by the average person who speaks e.g. an accent from the west coast US or Chicago. You can find many clips online where English MPs/politicians have a considerably hard time understanding Scottish people because of the linguistic differences.

By your logic, British people pronounce “schedule” wrong because they generally pronounce it starting with /ʃ/ (although both pronunciations are found and used), while Americans pronounce it with /sk/. I mean, who do they think they are, would you say “school” like that? Or “schematic”??? Or “schizophrenia”! They sound like those dirty Germans, pronouncing it differently than me… and other words that contain “sch” but are pronounced differently don’t count because… reasons? They’re way less common maybe? That’s how you sound right now.

In the same vain, most west Slovak speakers can understand Czech with little difficulty and vice versa. Actually Slovak speakers can interact with most slavic speakers to a good degree. By your logic, Slovak is correct Czech or Ukrainian, but Scottish English isn’t correct English. Hmmm…

You are silly for thinking that your pronunciation is “the correct” pronunciation. Your pronunciation is just as absurd as any other. Also people pronounce it with /dʒ/ because it just makes sense, and it generally is more common in certain areas of the country, you’re acting like /gɪf/ is the pronunciation people first think when they see the word.

Also let’s use your logic on other acronyms. NASA – well clearly /næ.sə/ is wronɡ, look at the other common word containing that sequence like “nasal”! Or how about LASER – well words like “eraser” and “chaser” disagree! Or yolo – “myology” and “embryology”. OSHA – “turboshaft” and “goshawk”. NATO– “senator”, “anatomy”, “urinatory”, “natoma”. How is GIF somehow the exception to not being consistent with pronunciation of words containing the same sequence of letters? Which by the way, as I pointed out with e.g. “spongiform”, it is, but even if you want to ignore that.

I don’t even care about you addressing the rest of my previous comment, I just want you to tell me, do you really think you know better than the dictionary folks? The people who’s job is basically deciding what is ““correct”” language? The prescriptive linguistic institutions?

Why is everything in consumer / American life so fucking shitty now - and companies literally just say 'oh bc profit margins' and we're now expected to swallow that and sympathize?

like I went to taco bell and they didn’t even have napkins out. they had the other stuff just no napkins, I assume because some fucking ghoul noticed people liked taking them for their cars so now we just don’t get napkins! so they can save $100 per quarter rather than provide the barest minimum quality of life features.

force,

For a lot of cases the answer is lobbying, e.g. in medical/healthcare there’s practical 0 competition for a lot of products because of anti-competitive laws like really shitty intellectual property laws that let prices be controlled by few (collaborating) companies. Plus there’s a lot of things that are technically illegal, but in practice laws only apply to the poors so they’re not really illegal for corporations: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-competitive_practices#…

force,

Me when languages have homophones/homographs 😱

force,

chicken

force,

Using a VPN makes your traffic travel through the VPN server to get encrypted before reaching the destination.

Using Tor basically does this 3 times, but it’s decentralized so it goes through multiple different random relays before reaching the destination. And it changes which relays you’re using every 10 minutes.

When using a VPN you’re basically relying on your VPN service giving it their all when it comes to protecting your privacy, and also on them not bending over to the government if it wants to monitor you. Which you won’t get with a lot of VPNs (especially not free VPNs).

Since Tor is decentralized and changes your connections frequently, it’s virtually impossible to monitor someone using Tor. The chance that all 3 relays your traffic travels through are controlled by people coordinating to get you are slim in the first place, without even considering the relays changing.

You can also use both Tor and a VPN at once, but to do so properly is a lot more convoluted than just turning on your VPN and using Tor at the same time.

force,

Really the only reason to use Tor is if you really need a certain type of privacy, or to bypass certain restrictions on websites. It’s definitely not something to use as a daily driver, it can be cumbersome and using it incorrectly puts you at risk.

It doesn’t have a lot of features that normal browsers use – it doesn’t save history, some sites don’t work on Tor because it does a lot of fancy stuff like blocking trackers. You shouldn’t use extensions on Tor either, that can get you deanonymised.

It also doesn’t guarantee a lot of protection against malicious actors on the web. You still have to be as cautious about what websites you use as you would on any other browser.

You also can’t really do things that demand a lot of bandwith like downloading large files on Tor – speeds are extremely slow due to all of the privacy measures they take, and it causes a LOT of strain on Tor nodes and makes the experience worse for everyone. If you’re pirating/torrenting, just use a VPN.

You shouldn’t do anything on Tor that exposes personal/sensitive information, including logging onto websites with your personal accounts, that defeats almost the entire purpose of using it for the average user (anonymity) and can actually put you at risk.

Especially don’t do anything like online banking or shopping on Tor. It’s not suitable for secure online transactions.

Basically only use it for stuff that DOESN’T require personal/sensitive/identifying info, and stuff that DOESN’T use up a lot of bandwidth.

Honestly for the average person, Tor is completely useless. Most should only use it if they know there’s something they may need to hide from a government/ISP/etc. Otherwise just Firefox with some extensions and changed settings will do.

force,

sleep is depression, i say as someone with adhd-induced inspmnia on top of just regular insomnia who can’t sleep for shit

i spent 3 hours lying down with my eyes closed not being able to sleep after getting 2 hours of sleep the night before, after staying up for 24 hours straight. end me

force,

Fuel is NOT a basic human need, especially in countries where gas stoves are extremely uncommon or banned from being used in new houses (which includes most of Europe). In fact, in most of the US electric stoves are also by far the most common type (with the exception of California, NY, Illinois, and New Jersey).

Fossil fuels as a “need” is manufactured, it’s completely artificial, it shouldn’t even be legal to install stoves or heating that require gas. The US and Canada also shouldn’t have shitty car-dependent infrastructure. The only reason we have these problems is because of propoganda from fossil fuel corporations promoting garbage like “gas stoves cook better”… whatever that’s supposed to mean… or lobbying to keep cars as the only viable form of transport for the past hundred years.

I agree with the rest of your points though.

force,

People when normal language evolution exists: 😱

english language arts classes have set us back millions of years

force,

if it’s an anime about lesbians it’s bad

actually scratch that, 99% of animes are bad copy-paste fan service trash meant to appease (usually edgy) middle school boys in the first place

force,

what

force,

You have 0 idea as to what you’re talking about lol

force, (edited )

wtf kind of cursed programming language is this? JS? it’s so ugly, in no universe should a function look like that

but obviously as a rust enjoyer i have to do it like


<span style="color:#323232;">fn max ⟨T: PartialOrd + Copy⟩(nums: ⁊[T]) -> Option⟨T⟩ {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    let mut greatest: ⁊T = ⁊nums[0];
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    match nums.len() {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        0 => None,
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        1 => Some(*greatest),
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        _ => {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            for num in nums {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                if num > greatest {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                    greatest = num;
</span><span style="color:#323232;">                }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">            Some(*greatest)
</span><span style="color:#323232;">        }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">    }
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>

edit: lemmy formatting REALLY hates references and generics it seems… time to go back to medieval times

force,

lol that’s not actually how rust is written, it was just a joke

it’d really be written


<span style="color:#323232;">if x > y { x } else { y }
</span>
force,

There doesn’t really exist an “healthy” or “unhealthy” food, it’s just about your eating habits…

force, (edited )

Anyone that says that has no idea what they’re talking about lol, the F-35 is completely unmatched in terms of multirole aircraft (along with the F-22 for a more fighter-focused role) and likely will only be surpassed with gen 6 aircraft.

The SU-57 and practically any “modern” Russian aircraft are complete jokes that will fall apart with 2 seconds of airtime, and the J-20 and a majority of Chinese aircraft are cheap imitations of western (mainly American) technology which although much more capable than Russian aircraft, still fall behind a lot due to the corruption/authoritarianism in the Chinese military & government absolutely crumpling any hope of having actually competitive engineering & building.

European aircraft aren’t even worth considering as competition either (although are far superior to the previous 2 nations’ mentioned, in most cases). Eurofighters are just another one of the projects European nations had that was plagued by issues from the fact that it was multiple parties with differing requirements/interests/goals trying to develop something. Gripens are less effective budget alternatives to American gen 4 fighters. Etc. Etc.

The combined capabilities in technology, resources/wealth, and pool of experienced/intelligent engineers that the US has at its disposal makes it extremely hard to even dream of touching their capabilities when it comes to aircraft. Even with ground vehicles, the only real competition is Germany… but German armed forces are kind of in a state of disrepair right now, they’ve really neglected their military. It’s really only the defense companies like Rheinmetall and KNDS which can be pointed to as successful currently.

Europe has a long way to go to compete with American military aircraft. Right now the US just has so much more experience and knowledge when it comes to fighter jets & more modern technologies present in said jets. It’d require a lot more investment in aerospace engineering and technology as a whole really, not just when it comes to aerospace. And Europe is currently even more desperate for tech workers than the US atm afaik.

force,

And “proper cause” is objective?

force, (edited )

Ok but that requires some sort of objective way to sort out what’s harmful and what isn’t. And to what extent “harm” counts. And have an objective way to say who exactly was the one that caused the harm, who’s the agent and who’s not an agent. And to what exactly can justify harm. And what can even be harmed. That’s just an impossible thing to do.

It’s definitions all the way down – you can’t make anything like that “objective”. All the words you use are subjective, all words have loose meanings that differ from person to person. “Doing harm” has no objective meaning.

It’s like trying to find objective beauty. There is no objective beauty, there is nothing that applies to everyone that says how beautiful they are. It’s majority based on understandings gathered from culture and life experiences, which differ greatly from person to person. Morality is the same.

What you described isn’t “objective morality”, it’s the NAP. That’s just a discount conservative philosophy.

force, (edited )

Ok but one can use “harm” to mean whatever they want. It’s not as simple as saying “harm = bad”. Someone has to decide if something counts as harm, which would be completely subjective and arbitrarily decided.

force, (edited )

Simplest moral dilemma – trolley problem. Is it immoral to doom 1 person in order to save 4 people? Is it immoral to sacrifice any number of people, animals, etc. for some “greater good”? That’s something a lot of people would argue about. And do you do something immoral if you don’t take action at all on it?

You can try to pick an answer and call it morally objective, but anyone who tries to do that is a joke.

force,

That’s your morality. You can be Thanos all you want but it doesn’t make it objectively moral.

New to America USA, how do you socialize and meet new people?

I recently moved to the USA, from the middle east. My English is pretty good, and I don’t have a lot of trouble communicating with people at work or in stores. I also don’t know anyone here at all, outside of work. All my family is still back in Gaza, and I’ve been here over a year now, and still feel cut off from American...

force,

Generally if you’re outside of a city, the (often only) way to meet new people is things which are “necessary” for you like work/school, or having neighbours, since there isn’t really a “third place” in most of the US. If you can find a group/club/etc. for a hobby you have (e.g. drones, model trains, whatever) then that’s usually your best shot outside of that.

force,

your bio: age 14 years, she/they, bisexual, #stopputin, white american (i know, i’m sorry), slava ukraina!

genuinely if you think harassing a random indian online will help any problems india has you probably don’t belong on the internet. there are 1.4 billion indians

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