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HeyLow, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know

I hope this doesn’t mean they will be opening up the email addresses for use after they delete/clear them

otter,
@otter@lemmy.ca avatar

I think that would be a security nightmare, so they probably won’t (and they’ll probably be forced to not do it if they try)

muhyb,

When deleting a Google account, they warn you about your username won’t be reclaimable. So I assume this will be the same.

nope, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know

an inactive Google account is one that has not been used for a continuous period of two years. Google defines “activity” as actions such as signing in to read or send emails, using Google Drive, watching YouTube videos, sharing photos, or downloading apps.

TheButtonJustSpins,

That feels okay to me?

averyminya,

It is, though 2 years is a little short. I just got back into my very first Yahoo e-mail not long ago and that wouldn’t have been possible with a policy like this.

But, they have so many that have been stagnant for so long so I’m not really faulting them for this particular move.

adespoton,

Microsoft killed off my pre-MS Hotmail account years back. Google’s got lots of company with the 2 years rule.

bedrooms,

Oof. What do I do with all those websites referring to my other gmail account I never use... I don't want my main gmail to receive these messages.

giloronfoo,

Sign into it at least once a year.

adespoton,

Signing in to what, though?

I have one account that only ever gets used via a third party email client. When I check my email, am I “signing in” by Google’s definition or not?

77slevin,

Yes, your 3rd party email client uses your username and password to SIGN IN, which constitutes as signing in for Google.

adespoton,

Are you sure? I’ve had accounts before where only signing in to the official web UI or client counted (because that’s where they showed ads and grabbed telemetry).

So while WE would consider using third party clients to be signing in, THEY may define it differently.

liv, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know

I thought they had already done it. I got the notification months ago.

loki,

yes, they did, but the actual pruning starts from december.

liv,

Ah that explains it. Thanks!

Grant_M, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

Stop threatening me with a good time.

ultratiem, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know
@ultratiem@lemmy.ca avatar

Do it mf. DO IT!!!

Anticorp, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know

It’s not the first time. Besides, they won’t even let you log into old accounts that don’t have recovery emails and real names set. I lost a couple of really good usernames from the beta era after they rolled out all of their account protection practices. A password isn’t good enough for Google.

adespoton,

They’ve got a “real names” rule?

They haven’t applied it against the online pseudonyms I’ve been using for the past 30 years. Thankfully.

Anticorp,

They wouldn’t let me log into a couple of accounts despite having the password, saying that I hadn’t used it for awhile and they couldn’t verify I was the account owner. Since there was no recovery email set, which was intentional because it was supposed to be an anonymous account, and none of the other information I set was real, they said they can’t verify me and won’t let me log in. They’re pretty insistent that passwords alone aren’t acceptable, even when you use all of your real information. Go try to log into Google on a new device from a new location and see what a huge PITA it is.

adespoton,

Ah; that explains it; I have multiple accounts cross-linked as recovery accounts. Sounds like I’ll be fine as long as I don’t run afoul of their “inactive” rules.

Anticorp,

It was disappointing. I had uber1337 and lost it due to them refusing to let me log back in. That name doesn’t mean much now, but it was pretty l33t back then.

Edit: I guess it’s actually a pretty stupid name now that there’s a taxi company named Uber. Cool, I just made peace with losing that account. Haha!

jamiehs,

They can leverage these terms if they want to. For example you’re also only allowed to have one account per person.

Wasn’t it the Terraria dev who got his account locked and they used that as an excuse as to why he was locked out of his account? They said he had too many accounts or something?

arstechnica.com/…/terraria-developer-cancels-goog…

They can enforce arbitrary rules when they need to if they wanna fuck you over; just like cops.

Anticorp,

I do only have one account with them now. They’re a terrible platform these days if you want an anonymous spam account. They were good back in the day because they offered 10x the storage as everyone else, and we hadn’t fully comprehended the scope of their snooping. My only email address with them now is used as a corporate spam address, since it’s completely overrun with spam anyways, after 20+ years of use.

bedrooms, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know

Exception for YouTube Video Posters:

Notably, any account that has posted one or more videos on YouTube will be exempt from the account purge, regardless of the period of inactivity. This exception ensures that users who have contributed content to the platform will not lose their accounts.

TroublesomeTalker, to technology in Google Announces to Delete Inactive Accounts, All You Need to Know

So. Years back. When they did that ad where parents sent a kid emails to their own Gmail and then gave them the account details when they were grown up… Everyone who ever did that are gonna lose all their work if they don’t think to log in periodically. Nice.

NotBadAndYou, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban

uBlock Origin has kept their filters up-to-date for me. Still no ads, and no blocks from YouTube, since day 1. I did disable my other privacy extensions like Privacy Badger and Ghostery on YouTube to stay on their “good” side however.

walden,

I recently had to disable ad blocking within Enhancer for YouTube, but uBlock Origin took over and it works great so far.

DarkThoughts,

Does that fix it? I disabled the whole addon because it interfered with the anti adblock measures. Unfortunately many features of it are pretty broken at this point and the author even removed it from the Firefox addon page.

walden,

Oh really? Yeah it worked for me.

Pantherina,
@Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

For me no blocks but ads just played?

cmnybo, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban

Yeah, probably lots of people uninstalling ghostery and adguard so they can install ublock origin.

Ebennz, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban

Yes, they uninstall and then install an adblocker that works. Click bait.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Yeah for a while I used Adblock plus and ublock. With this adblock plus was just tripping youtube so it was an immediate uninstall. Stupid article is stupid

DarkThoughts,

Why would you use two adblockers at the same time? That's just bound to cause problems. And that doesn't even go into the whole adblock plus drama.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I mean, I just did? Used both for 5 years like that and only had a problem now

MagicShel,

It’s not crazy. There are multiple blacklists that largely but not completely overlap. Sometimes program A works best on site B and program Y works on site Z. Or at least historically this has been the case.

Obviously a new game is afoot.

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

You can just add lists to uBlock to your hearts content, though?

AndrasKrigare,

Yeah, who’s gonna say “Oh, I’m not blocking ads on YouTube, better take the time to make sure I see ads everywhere else as well.”

Powderhorn, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban
@Powderhorn@beehaw.org avatar

This result honestly sounds like their best-case outcome. I don’t like much of what Google does, but I’m certain a lot of discussion went into what would be viewed as a “win” on this call, and my guess is “some number of people stop using ad-blocking software” actually beats out “some people are converted to subscribers” (an effect not measured here and somewhat necessary to get any context for one data point) by virtue of Google being an advertising company.

Regardless, they’re targeting only low-hanging fruit: people who use ad blockers to block ads. Sounds tautological, but this excludes anyone concerned about privacy. Nobody using an ad blocker in concert with other add-ons is going to be converted here. And I sort of wonder whether media coverage from when the crackdown started inflated ad-block installs among people who’d never used one, thus making this win less substantial on a longer timeline.

NightOwl, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban

I uninstalled chrome. Stopped logging into YouTube. And moved to freetube on desktop. Newpipe on Android.

lvxferre, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

The ad blockers in question were AdGuard and Ghostery, acc. to the article.
uBlock Origin is still working fine for me. And NewPipe in the cell phone.

EmperorMudBug,

Where do you get NewPipe and is it good

Itsamelemmy,

It’s on F-Droid. I personally haven’t used it in a long time because you couldn’t sign in to your account. Not sure if that’s changed. I’m currently using revanced which is great.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

As the other poster said, it’s on F-Droid. It’s mostly a Youtube frontend, although it accesses SoundCloud and PeerTube too. And more importantly, it doesn’t download advertisements from YT, so you don’t even need an ad blocker when using it.

tias,

Ghostery isn’t even an ad blocker, it’s just to prevent tracking.

lvxferre,
@lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

Ghostery does work as an ad blocker too, and advertises (eh) itself as such.

Plus, for corporate nowadays, tracking and advertisement are two steps of the same process.

tias,

Oh OK my bad, that was news to me. I stopped using it a couple of years ago when Firefox got the functionality built in, and it wasn’t advertised as an ad blocker back then.

terminhell, to technology in Ad blocker uninstall rises due to YouTube ban

Do other non ublock adblockers not have the ability to whitelist specific domains? Or are people just unaware of it? (Probably the latter id assume)

kent_eh,

Yes to both questions.

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