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LifeOfChance, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

My wife found out recently that when she was 5 she apparently opened a credit card that went unpaid. To get it removed was a full time job…

TheSanSabaSongbird,

Doesn’t credit card debt go away after 7 years? If I’m doing the math right, your wife must be pretty young if it’s still an issue.

joker125,

Possibly, but identity theft cases usually involve much more bureaucracy than just ignoring the debt.

meliaesc,

Just because the card was opened when she was 5 doesn’t mean that’s the last time it was used…

afraid_of_zombies, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

And this is news how?

Shazbot, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

I feel that this can be addressed at application step. Any date of birth proven to be under 18 cannot apply without an in person interview. This protects minors from taking on debt without fully understanding the implications, and puts responsibility on the lender for providing credit to a minor. If credit is provided and defaults the debt should be the lender’s problem for taking such a huge risk.

Alternatively, the same premise with the exception that an adult is required as a cosigner. If the account defaults the burden is shifted to the adult as they have the cognizance to understand and take responsibility.

I wouldn’t outright ban giving accounts to minors. My parents opened a savings account in my name and kept it in good standing. This gave me a big credit boost that my peers never had. But I realize I am an exception, and the problem others face is very real.

Ibex,
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Companies don’t care. I had a collection agency call me before wanting paid for an unpaid Direct TV bill from when I was 13 that my dad had taken out in my name. I had to get him to read the part on Direct tv’s terms stating that no one under 18 can activate service 4 times before it finally registered to him and they dropped it. Still had to get it removed from my credit report too.

Stamets, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process
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Yup. Thanks Mom.

IHadTwoCows, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

Sue the parents and take their house.

ryannathans, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

Easily fixed, report as fraud, dispute and gets removed from credit repont

bustrpoindextr,

When she disputed the file with credit bureaus, parts were removed simply because certain creditors had gone out of business. Others, however, didn’t get scrubbed from her history until they aged off—which typically takes around seven years.

Turns out not so much

notepass,

How the fuck? That sounds illegal. How can you be held liable for others people bullshit?

Signtist,

Because it’s a hell of a lot easier to hold poor people liable for other people’s bullshit than it is to hold rich people liable for not honoring fraud reports. One can afford a lawyer, and knows the other can’t.

theneverfox,
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Because credit agencies aren’t related to the government. They’re literally just companies that made up arbitrary systems and convinced banks to go along with it

Birdie,

They’ll take off debts from active companies if you have a police report, because I’ve had that done when my identity was stolen.

afraid_of_zombies,

Oh yes, the credit agencies are known for being so understanding.

InvisibleShoe, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process
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jordanlund, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process
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Well this is new… article is blurred and unreadable and doesn’t even offer a paywall pop-up.

kaitco, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

This isn’t new. One of my cousins did this to three of her four kids. 😬 This has been a thing for ages.

tooclose104,
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My wife’s bio-birth pod did this to a few of her siblings. It’s kinda wild that it’s even possible.

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

What’s a bio birth pod? Another term for her biological family because they were no family to her?

TheOctonaut,

Well yes, the example given is from 2001

GiddyGap, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

Paywalled

ThatFembyWho, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

Hey now. Adults have been borrowing against their children’s futures for generations. It’s something of an American tradition at this point.

Maybe that is connected to each subsequent generation having less wealth, lower life expectancy, lower standard of living and generally being more miserable than the previous…

Nah I’m sure it’s just coincidence.

TheSanSabaSongbird,

Sure, if by “each subsequent generation” you mean millennials. Historically the trend in the US has always been the opposite; most people could count on being better off than their parents.

CmdrShepard,

There are already two new generations since millenials. I’m a millennial and I’m almost 40.

Tygr, to news in Parents are stealing their children's identities to access debt—and destroying their kids' credit scores in the process

AnnualCreditReport.com is free to get your credit report from all bureaus.

All bureaus allow you to freeze your credit when it is not in use.

FuglyDuck,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

that’s great. but children can’t do that, and even if they could, it’d really be their parents.

who are the ones stealing their identities in the first place. Fuck the banks that aren’t checking the age, though. You think that would be a massive flag…

Fredselfish,
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They never have. My mom got a phone in my name when I was 10. I born 1980. Also my dad ruined my credit just by living in same household. Did you know you can get bad credit on your report That isn’t yours just by an address and similar name?

They don’t even need your social to add by credit to you. The system is fucked. I am a Jr so I got all Sr bad debt even had the debt of a guy five states away he had a different middle name then me. We had never met.

Luckily the debt is easy to remove (well not real easy.) Can pay 1000 dollars like I did and they remove it quickly. Or you spend years before hand writing letters to the credit breuers and maybe they remove it.

How I know they don’t need your social well my dad owed the IRS and my credit report it had his social security number. It’s fucked up.

SARGEx117,

It’s almost like the whole credit system is a scam and is poorly regulated because despite any claims to the contrary the people who make rules have no clue how it all works behind the scenes,and get paid by the ones with money to not look too hard at it.

Gingerlegs,

If only the children knew!

JTheDoc, to news in Infosys billionaire founder Narayana Murthy wants young workers to have a 70-hour work week—and thinks it should be a matter of national pride

Passing all those skills down to his Son-in-law.

Rishi Sunak.

Isycius, to news in Billionaire Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman, the biggest owner of commercial real estate says remote employees 'didn't work as hard'

Even assuming that what he claim is true and can back with evidence, he would need to go further and show that loss of productivity caused by remote working is massive enough to: offset cost of borrowing commercial real estate (Or much larger real estate with corresponding maintenance bill in case on-site location is need for other reason), paying employee transportation, giving up remote talent, etc.

It is entirely his fault for not preparing for the time where people will actually bring out calculator when there was moon-sized sign post for several years.

exixx, to news in Billionaire Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman, the biggest owner of commercial real estate says remote employees 'didn't work as hard'

Fucking right. And I would love to inform him we’re still not at even 80% now.

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