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AlexanderTheGreat, to news in Human remains thought to be found in Titan sub debris
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In email messages seen by the BBC, Mr Rush had previously dismissed safety worries from one expert, saying he was "tired of industry players who try to use a safety argument to stop innovation".

Seems as though he thought he was fighting against the stifling of innovation. In reality it seems he truly was unsafe and definitely should have had better oversight.

ivanafterall,
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To be fair, though, it wasn't the safety issues that got him, it was all that water.

Itsmeshakes,
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To be fair, though, it wasn’t the water that got him, it was all that pressure. Lots of commas

Flaky_Fish69,
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The pressure is why I’m wondering what was survived. I mean, fire pistons are a thing- and that’s a far smaller pressure differential. They were probably flash-steamed before they ever knew what happened.

metaStatic,

the forces involved in an implosion are significantly worse than the average person thinks. if they find anything that isn't raspberry jam I'll be very surprised.

Flaky_Fish69,
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Imo, closer to bacon jam. Yes. That’s a thing.

metaStatic,

Peanut Butter Bacon Jam, Peanut Butter Bacon Jam, Peanut Butter Bacon Jam, Peanut Butter Bacon Jam.

keeb420,

theres probably tiny bits of remains left that didnt get blasted out in a crease or crevasse.

_finger_,
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Innovation does not equal cutting corners just to increase your bottom line

HotDogFingies,
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But... but... muh profits

Flaky_Fish69,
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Exactly this. The reality is his submersible was dangerously unsafe, it’s a bit of a misconception that it was a ticking time bomb because of fatigue- that is a thing related to metallic (crystalline )structures and stress cycles-as a composite, CF doesn’t have that.

What Cameron was getting at is that with titanium and steel, it’s can be modeled very easily- and because steel has a relatively high tolerance before fatiguenstarts… they literally can engineer around it and make parts that effectively don’t have fatigue (unlike aluminum, where every elastic bend degrades it’s structure.)

The problem with composites is that they are very difficult to model. You degrade the polymer (that is epoxy) and it weakens the hull. You drop the sub on the deck, get a delaminated bit. Whatever, once there’s damage to the structure it’s done for.

CF bikes for example, used in professional bike racing are retired after a crash because there’s no way to examine delaminating off the edge, which makes them extremely dangerous to ride,

The kind of people unwilling to have 3rd party certification to do much as validate your pressure hill is thick enough is unlikely to scrap an entire custom pressure hill because some idiot screwed the monitor into it. (Or dropped it. Or noticed that there was some delam around the hatch or whatever else.)

I_Miss_Daniel,
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Yes I saw in another video that monitor stands were attached to the wall somehow. Screws straight into the carbon fiber doesn't sound ideal, although I think they had some sort of internal cage structure, so it probably wasn't that bad.

keeb420,

screwing into cf might be fine if youre putting wider fenders on your car or whatever, but that sounds scary af if youre in a submersible.

TimeSquirrel,
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It looked like a second layer, something with a bunch of tiny holes in it.

Flaky_Fish69,
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If I were building a submersible, I’d have an internal fairing to allow mounting things like that, yes.

But then I’d also have included seats, and used viewport domes rated for the pressure depth…. And have someone not me give the sub a certification- because I recognize that I’m human and sometimes make mistakes.

artisanrox,
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And now that bottom line has been increased... to a large portion of the bottom of the ocean.

Chetzemoka,

Deregulation WHEEEEEEEEE!!!

WHYAREWEALLCAPS,

Never was any regulation. It operated only in international waters.

Chetzemoka,

Just pointing out that perhaps the larger philosophy of broad deregulation maybe isn't such a great idea

XGC75,
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But that's not the case here.

There isn't any regulation of commercial submersibles like there is for ground or air. Anywhere around the world. So the "de" of deregulation is not applicable.

Should there be regulation? Yeah absolutely, if submersibles are going to be a thing. But that's just called regulation.

keeb420,

i think they are trying to say this is a perfect example of where things will head if we continue with deregulating industry as republicans think we should. where your boss can say "fuck safety i wanna make more money and if a few people are killed or injured well thats the cost of doing business."

Chetzemoka,

Bingo. I've been to lots of countries with far fewer safety regulations than the US, and can we please stop fetishizing the cheapening of human life and well-being for profit in the US? Please? We came out of that phase in our development for good reasons.

metaStatic,

What I'm hearing is we need a data center on a boat to make Netflix great again

Calcharger,
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Why would anyone in their right mind think that safety precautions are in place to stop innovation?

Ni, to news in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet
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Some crazy records being broken this year. There is also statistically outlying Antarctica ice melt but I haven't seen that story anywhere since first seeing it.

One thing you can do is write to your MP or representative.
Here is a letter template to write to your MP if you are in the uk - you could also use the template in the US or elsewhere in the world : https://www.theclimatecoalition.org/write-to-your-mp

Arotrios, to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
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Fun trick, if you write poetry to @BBCRD, you'll get your profile and your post listed on their server.

Proof

Caveat: poetry may or may not be required, but is much appreciated.

Not by the BBC, of course, just me. I always appreciate your poetry.

ivsbat, to news in Climate records tumble, leaving Earth in uncharted territory - scientists
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Unless everything stops right now. Literally. There’s nothing anyone can do to reverse it. All thresholds are long been crossed.

Ni,
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It does seem like we need a complete shutdown to deal with this. This current situation seems like an immediate emergency and not something we will deal with later down the track.

I think all we can try and do is what we can in out sphere of control and influence. Advice and tips are welcome!

lowdownfool,
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We saw how well shutting down worked for a global pandemic. In the US, half the population took it as a declaration of literal war. We're doomed.

Ni,
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It's true, I don't think you'd find consensus or cooperation with the idea, but we do seem to be at an impasse that we shouldn't (but probably will) just ignore.

bradboimler,
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Ni,
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Yes it will, which is even more worrying but we have to do something. I think it's going to have to be a joint carbon reduction and capture effort

jeebus, to tech in Instagram's Threads: 'Almost every influencer will be hopping on it'
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You know who's not?

^~ This guy.

I'd rather jump into a pit filled with rattlesnakes!

I also don't make a living trying to influence people into buying shit they don't need.

IntergalacticZombie,

I’m with you on that, but adjusts fedora why did it have to be snakes?

id_kai,
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I joined it with a fake account so I could check it out and immediately left once I realized there isn't a place to just see the people I chose to follow. I was being bombarded by so much shit that it was just an awful time.

quirzle,
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there isn't a place to just see the people I chose to follow

Given the direction of IG in recent years, this isn't very surprising.

printerjammed, to news in US-China tensions: Biden calls Xi a dictator a day after Beijing talks
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Trump would've shook his hand and called him a great guy. he loves dictators

loki, to tech in ChatGPT can now access up to date information

and up to date misinformation*

Gordon_Freeman,
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Who needs up to date misinformation when you can create your own misinformation?

It has happened multiple times, ChatGPT referenced to fake articles that were created by itself

Pons_Aelius, (edited ) to tech in ChatGPT can now access up to date information

And so the downward spiral begins as LLM's are trained on the output of previous LLM's.

It will be bullshit all the way down.

Of all the Iain M. Banks' books to end up in I was hoping to avoid the corrupted data chaos of Feersum Endjinn

xc2215x, to news in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet

More examples of climate change having an effect. The last two months especially.

Ni,
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It does seem to have ramped up in the last few months especially. On a local level we are really struggling to grow food (in our gardens) due to such bizarre weather and that is a tiny example of the effect.

AmidFuror, to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media

I've noticed BBC all over pornhub too.

shepherd, to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
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Here's their accounts, for the curious:

@BBCRD

@BBC5Live

@BBCRadio4

@BBCTaster

@Connected_Studio

@BBC_News_Labs

dumples, to fediverse in The BBC on Mastodon: experimenting with distributed and decentralised social media
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For those on a Kbin instance you can follow the whole instance to see everything they post:

https://kbin.social/d/social.bbc

If this is a success many more should follow

amanaftermidnight,

is there a way to subscribe to that from lemmy?

dumples,
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I don't think so since lemmy doesn't integrate with mastodon like kbin

pbaesse,
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@dumples @jocanib @amanaftermidnight how can i follow kbin from mastodon??

Teppic, (edited )
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Same old. Just follow specific users by copying their full ID (e.g. @Teppic @kbin.social without the space) onto the search on Mastodon and follow as normal.

We should perhaps use hashtags more here because that would would be another way for Mastodon users to find/follow kbin content.

Going the other way to contribute to a kbin magazine from Mastodon, If you want the post to appear in a particular magazine, simply mention it in the post content, for example, "@fediverse @kbin.social" (no space) Note it will appear in the Microblog section.

pbaesse,
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Ni, to news in Climate records tumble, leaving Earth in uncharted territory - scientists
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Very worrying, and incredibly frustrating!

We're reading more and more of these posts every day. I feel like we also need a top post of things we can all feasibly do to help.

Tyson712, to news in Oil giant Shell warns cutting production 'dangerous'

Dangerous... To their profits. Not so dangerous to the rest of us

Ni,
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I mean we must protect their profits at all costs.....

Godofthemachine, to news in US-China tensions: Biden calls Xi a dictator a day after Beijing talks

It’s true. Xi is a dictator. More at 11. But let’s be honest, when has the US ever had a problem with dictators. Heck the US basically installed half of them during the cold war.

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