nayminlwin

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nayminlwin,

What do you think of zig?

nayminlwin,

I’m still hoping for browsers to become some kind of open standard application environments and web apps to become actual apps running on this environment.

nayminlwin,

I started my career as C# dev and thought highly of Java because it’s what C# is ripping off of. Then I actually tried writing Java and had a new found appreciation for C#. This was over 10 years ago though.

nayminlwin,

I’m thinking more along the line of ubiquitous offline first PWAs. Imagine google doc running offline in a browser and being able to edit local docs directly. I guess secure file system access is one of the major road blocks, though I’m not sure of the challenges associated with coming up with a standard for this.

Seeking info on all of the many, lesser known desktop environments

So I am an aesthetics guy when it comes to my distro and desktop environment. I like things to look clean and visually appealing. Last night I kinda took a deep dive into the world of different DE’s. Of course there’s the popular ones that everybody knows about i.e. Cinnamon, Xfce, KDE, Mate, Gnome, etc., however there’s a...

nayminlwin,

There’s also a lesser known Enlightenment-based Moksha desktop. From what I understand, they rolled their windows manager and a set of applications. The creators went all-in on eastern religion terminology. Try Bodhi linux to get full experience, even though I think the UI is quite a bit off and ugly.

nayminlwin,

There’s also E Corp from Mr. Robot.

nayminlwin,

There was even a scandal involving cancer causing work environments with Samsung like in the show.

A different kind of programming workflow paradigm

Over 10 years ago, I had this sort of a prediction that, with the massive adoption of a dynamic language like javascript on both client/server sides and test-driven development gaining a lot of ground, the future of programming would be dynamic and “feedback-driven”. As in, you would immediately see the results of your code...

nayminlwin,

I am familiar with hot reloads. What I had in mind was something more fine-grained, not just the UI. A simple example would be that I declared a function signature. Then I write a test. As I start to implement the function, there would be constant feedback visible based on the inputs to the functions from test I wrote. If I declare a variable ‘x’ by adding function params ‘let x = y + z’, the feedback view would show a watch expression of x based on the test’s input. If I changed it to ‘let x = y * z’, the watch expression would immediately change. I would be constantly seeing the result of my actions. May be this is asking for too much with the current technology we have. I don’t know.

nayminlwin,

infinitest looks interesting though. Will check it out, though I’m not much of a Java dev.

nayminlwin,

Nice, JetBrains does not disappoint. It’s been a long time since I last used one of their tools. What I’m hoping for is the first-class usage of a similar tool. There would be no debug mode. May be you can say the “debugger” starts as soon as you open up your project and is constantly giving you feedback as you code. For me, I value frequent feedback with potentially unsafe code over having to satisfy the compiler. Sure, having both would be nice as well.

nayminlwin,

I’d imagine there would be no need to give up type safety, unit testing and all that though. I’m thinking more about language and tool creators’ focus and efforts going mostly into compiler and type safety.

nayminlwin,

I’ve looked into Elixir livebook that’s probably inspired by jupyter before. Yeah, something like that but for a much more general use case.

nayminlwin,

I wouldn’t say it’s in a bad place either. Most enterprise grade technologies already have great debugging tools. Sure, those hot reloads, live updates are nice for UI development. But, I was thinking more of something built from the ground up to be, well, “feedback driven” in general. Most new stuffs that came out in the last decade touted their compiler as a killer feature first and rest of the tools are only developed as the ecosystem mature. May be that’s just the best way to go about creating new successful language ecosystems, I don’t know. Sorry if it feels like I’m being vague about the specifics. That’s because I really only have vague ideas about whole the whole thing would work.

nayminlwin,

It’s the same with elixir and it’s interactive REPL! I really love working with it.

nayminlwin,

Oh, I completely forgot about smalltalk. Better look into again.

nayminlwin,

Watching it now. So far he’d been describing exactly what I had in mind. Thanks for this!

nayminlwin,

I think elixir/erlang is also in the same class of languages as clojure in that sense. A lot of lisp-like languages tend to go into that trend, I guess. I love working in it.

May be my headspace was a bit too much in systems that benefit from rapid prototyping. Other class of systems might benefit greatly from type safety and unit tests. Even though, I still felt a bit iffy about unit tests and almost ideological spouting points of it. I struggled with unit testing for a few years and now I just use them for automation of bigger picture behaviour testing. Call them integration tests or whatever.

nayminlwin,

I live in an obscure asian country and I rice while I eat rice.

nayminlwin,

There’s “Nga Loe Ma Thar” in Burmese - Son of a woman I f-ed

nayminlwin,

I have a cousin that’s the same age as I am and we were practically siblings growing up because we lived in the same apartment building and went to the same school. And I was really mean to her during our late teen years. The worst thing I did was stole her IRC chat logs with her bf and shared it with some of our friends. I apologized to her a few years later and we were on good terms since then.

nayminlwin,

Been using foot for like 4 years.

nayminlwin,

IOTs are pushing us towards subscription hell-scape. We must demand dumb, non-connected machines and devices.

nayminlwin,

Don’t know why people are such sticklers for msoffice even when they’re not power users. I’m having a hard time pushing just libreoffice, let alone Linux in my company.

nayminlwin,

Non-IT. Which makes it harder. Just a mid size distribution business. The thing is we’re from Myanmar and everyone’s so used to cracked proprietory software, even big companies. Got virus? Reinstall everything.

Now we’re trying to make everything legit and licensing fees are getting a bit much, especially O365. For now I’m just trying to push non-power users toward libreoffice.

nayminlwin,

We’ve been using a customized ERPNext for about 7 years though. But it’s just a web-based application, so any client’s fine.

nayminlwin,

Forgot to mention it’s a non-tech company.

I just wanna know if there’s any small company running mostly Linux ecosystem with some IT governance like LDAP-based authorizations and policies. There are probably clients of companies like red hat doing that, but I think they might be giant corps.

nayminlwin,

Thanks for this. Guess things will remain a bit of a mishmash even if there is a transition.

nayminlwin,

Big Bang Theory and Modern Family.

They the first western sitcoms I watched and the comfort from watching them stuck with me.

nayminlwin,

3 Idiots, a feel-good Indian movie.

nayminlwin,

What happens to me is the opposite. I got used to Ctrl+w to delete a word in terminal and accidentally closed browser tabs many times while typing in them.

nayminlwin,

What happens to me is the opposite. I got used to Ctrl+w to delete a word in terminal and accidentally closed browser tabs many times while typing in them.

nayminlwin,

Gotta be KDE for a full featured DE.

But using Sway for now.

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