borzthewolf

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which distro has the best version of deepin desktop?

I’ve really been memorized by deepin, but I feed into the fear of the actual distro and China blah blah. I honestly dont know, but figure better safe than sorry. So I’ve tried Ubuntu DDE and it look like ass… Maybe they’ve update it since. I tried installing it on my fedora 38 workstation and it didn’t play well....

borzthewolf,

I can’t for the life of me setup DDE on fedora properly!!! I’ve tried numerous tutorials but it always ends up janky and not working!!! I’m simply looking to explore other distros that the same old KDE, gnome, and xfce…

borzthewolf,

Good to know! I officially gave up on the Fedora experiment last night and downloaded manjaro. Haven’t had the time to mess around just yet. And I’m interested in solus but also nervouse about about support, maintenance, longevity

borzthewolf,

I fear gentoo!!!

borzthewolf,

ARCO is a strange one… I’ve looked over their website before

If I'm trying to have a software program to help optimize my computers overall health and performance what should I be looking into?

So I am currently running stacer, tbh idk if its working good or not lol. Sometimes my computer still flares up randomly with high CPU usage and the fan going, but I try to use htop to pinpoint, but that tool is probably way more in depth than I know. I’d rather have like maybe a daemon? Or always on app that automatically...

borzthewolf,

No, I think you may have misinterpreted my post. By performance, I just mean overall performance, preferably optimized for the perfect median… Not trying to squeeze more performance, just trying to work with what I got and ensure all the moving parts and software and such are playing fair and on the same page… Basically looking for just smoothness and proper running of my systems at all times. I’ve had so many issues over the years, most likely user error, with just freeze ups, overheating, high CPU usage when I’m not really doing anything intensive at all and not to mention many WiFi issues, but that’s probably a whole other topic. I dont quite know what aspects or programs I should configure or how or if everything should just be default, etc. Sometimes I just wing configurations to things that make sense to me. Needless to say, I just want to ensure my system stays on the same page and runs smooth, how it should, with fewer errors or slowdowns or other annoyances.

borzthewolf,

Oh man I’ve done a lot of research on various performance issues and I end up wormholing and getting even more confused. Hence why it would preferably be nice to have tools to do it for me lol. I’ve had many random issues over the years; errors, freezes, overheating, high CPU and/or ram usage when I’m seemingly doing nothing but browsing the web (normal browsing, nothing intensive), overall slow downs or crashes, not to mention WiFi issues. I’ve trouble shot that to death and could never get anywhere so I installed a freaking Ethernet jack the other day in my living room, where I typically use my laptop. I’m just looking for tools to monitor and ensure things are running as they should and to help optimize in real time, so like daemon programs I suppose. Whenever I run into a serious enough issue that I can’t troubleshoot, I just end up wiping my drive and reinstalling a new distro. Thats not the ideal way of troubleshooting haha

borzthewolf,

No no I’m sorry, you guys seem to be misinterpreting things a bit, I’m not really looking for MORE performance because there are obvious hardware limitations, I’m just looking for tools that help optimize what I have to work with. To ensure things are balanced and smooth and running within normal bounds. Trying to enhance I guess health and overall usability. Make sure things aren’t running out of control or consuming more resources than they should. I mean I can look at htop and understand some things, but I by no means know how to use that info to manually configuring things myself, ya know? Just like the many monitoring tools out there, but ones that automatically make adjustments accorsingly, so daemon type programs I guess?

borzthewolf,

Sounds like a complex undertaking. I dont quite even know where to start with learning how to do all of that. I figured there are tools out there, like the ones I listed, that are supposed to automatically optimize aspects for you.

borzthewolf,

Thanks. See these are the things I dont know. I pretty much only use the browser on my laptop. I try to keep most things within the browser, but obviously have some apps/tools/programs like bitwarden, vlc, libre word, a textpad, just your basics… The only intensive thing I do on my computed is browsing. Sometimes I’ll get into researching and use the browser heavily, lots of tabs lol or I’ll stream videos I.e. Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, whatever… Thats about it. No email, unless I use the browser. I typically use my phone for emailing. I do always try to look for light options as well. But I have zero knowledge of the technical workings under the surface, so I would have no idea how to properly configure certain aspects that may need fixed or configured. If I ever do configure something I either go by the manual or just use settings that I want. Idk I just wanna make sure everything is always properly balanced as possible, but as I’ve explained, I do have many strange issues here and there whether they’re errors, hangs or freezes, slowdowns, overheating, high CPU or ram usage at random times when I’m not using heavily, idk. Linux is a complex system and I dont have the knowledge yet to understand and tweak the inner workings yet. Too confusing and dont know where to start

borzthewolf,

Thanks a lot! The issue is that linux is very complex with many aspects and I am not pro lol. Like niceness, I’ve heard of it and seen it in htop, but idk if the settings are correct. There’s so many programs, daemons, software, and actual hardware, idk where to start exploring and tuning the system myself. Its very overwhelming, so I figured maybe some of the tools I listed may help. For instance, I’ll spend hours And hours trying to understand logs or reading tutorials to help check for and fix errors or problems or broken things or misconfigured things but I just get lost and none of it makes sense. Like I’ll read an error line in a log, but I have no clue what it means. I’ll google it and sometimes try solutions, but even then, a lot of that is confusing and leads me down other rabbit holes too lol. Its vicious really… So needless to say, I have no idea where or how to start properly fixing or tuning things myself yet alone pinpoint actual issues. Its tricky but I’ve gotten better over the years, usually trial and error

borzthewolf,

Thanks so much. Wow those are some tricky questions lol. My only computer and main device is my dell xps 13 9310 laptop with Intel i5 evo processor and I think 8 GB of ram. Storage isn’t a concern as I never really store anything and if its important enough, I put it in the cloud. I am currently using linux mint 21.2 with cinnamon desktop.

I just installed it a few weeks ago because I was using debian 12 bookworm and was having issues with freezing and errors and WiFi problems and I could not successfully troubleshoot them (my only helped is chat gpt lol) so I wiped my drive and installed mint. I’ve been doing this same thing for a while. Swapping distros either due to boredom and curiosity or I break them to the point where idk how to fix it, so I reinstall.

I believe I have installed apps outside of official repos, sometimes successfully other times not. I try not to do that though. And the big problem is I can’t ever really tell what triggered the issues and a lot of times its hard to pinpoint WHAT is causing the issue and sometimes if I’m lucky, I can narrow it down to a certain thing, but there’s usually a ton of errors and such I find along the way. I do successfully troubleshoot and fix some things, but there’s more complex stuff that is out of my wheelhouse and I usually make things worse in my troubleshooting efforts lol

borzthewolf,

Thanks, I’m starting to realize this. There are many different aspects and tools to use to assess different parts of your system. I just want to ensure my system is bug and error free. I just have no idea where to start and with what tools and how to understand and implement things. I know logs are a popular option, but even those confuse the heck out me me. Like I KNOW there’s issues within my system but its difficult to find the right way to pinpoint and address things. I sorta wanna be like an investigator for my computer lol I want to really dig in and make sure everything is proper. Its just so daunting and vast and confusing. Chat gpt helps me with some stuff, which is actually very useful because answers on forums and what not can be all over the place and a lot of times the solutions dont quite work.

borzthewolf,

See thats one thing I’ve been weary about as well. I mean every computer is different so I figure just a fresh, default install won’t necessarily mean the system is configured and running properly simply due to the nature of all the different hardware and bits and bobs for each setup. How am I supposed to know if things are configured and working properly even after a fresh install? Linux really is a beast with so many aspects

borzthewolf,

Thanks for the recommendation but honestly, I’ve been trying to ween off of google lol

borzthewolf,

Well this is good to know. Even programs such as tlp? It seems like everybody and their mother recommend that one lol

borzthewolf,

Oh gosh that sounds interesting, but way above my pay grade haha

borzthewolf,

Nope! Not a gamer at all

Seeking info on all of the many, lesser known desktop environments

So I am an aesthetics guy when it comes to my distro and desktop environment. I like things to look clean and visually appealing. Last night I kinda took a deep dive into the world of different DE’s. Of course there’s the popular ones that everybody knows about i.e. Cinnamon, Xfce, KDE, Mate, Gnome, etc., however there’s a...

borzthewolf,

Fantastic resources! Thank you

borzthewolf,

I’m sorry, I should clarify, when I say clean I dont mean minimal, maybe sleek or stylish (but now gaudy) would have been better words

borzthewolf,

Hmm I need to research windows managers more. I know nothing about them lol

borzthewolf,

Thanks a lot!!! And any and tweaks to the environments can be done simply with the distros tools and settings or is there more to configuring appearance than that? Just because as I noticed. Two different distros could have a gnome desktop but look vastly different, sometimes almost like completely different desktops. Thats the part I dont quite understand.

borzthewolf,

The thing about budgie I’ve noticed from screenshots is that the environment looks vastly different on each distro that supports it. IMO solus looks way best, but at the moment solus is up in the sir lol

borzthewolf,

Never heard of this, I’ll have to look into it and cde for that matter

borzthewolf,

I have checked out screenshots of trinity and to me it looks sorta dated and weird… Unless you know of a distro that has a pretty version? Lol it is a different feel for sure

borzthewolf,

Wow lots of info here, thanks! See, I know nothing about window or tiling managers and not necessarily know if I need to go that deep, but maybe! So the two more random desktops I’m interested in are probably cutefish and deepin oh and paperde, but I cannot find that on any distro so it must not be maintained. Sorta the same deal with cutefish, though I know it actually IS available. DDE is one I’m on the fence about. Just the bad security issues I’ve always read has kept me from deepin, but figure the environment is safer? Lol and again, it looks vastly different on each distro.

Sooo basically two things I dont understand. You said you can get any DE on any distro,but thats not true ime. I’ve searched numerous distros repos or packages and some distros had DEs that others did not. Also, why does it seem like so many desktops vary so much in appearance. How do I know what each looks like on each distro? Because I’ve found a lot of variance and I dont know enough about the inner workings of DEs lol thanks man

borzthewolf,

I dont understand this at all. I mean I’ve heard of iceWM but know nothing about it. The screenshots I’ve seen, it looks super minimal, complex, any ugly, but I’m sure I’m missing so much info on how you can actually use it

borzthewolf,

Lol its clear that I know nothing beyond the DE . so basically do you choose your de based upon what the display manager supports?

borzthewolf,

I need to check this out, thanks. Is it a de or just like a window manager?

borzthewolf,

Like, idk what you’re supposed to do with these though?

borzthewolf,

I feel the same that it feels off and kinda ugly lol its different for sure, sorta like Bunsen labs, but just very strange and not necessarily appealing

borzthewolf,

Yes it does, thank you. So if the desktop is “officially” supported by a distro, they should all relatively look the same?

borzthewolf,

Ahh ok so this is basically my point. I’ve done a lot of distro hopping and noticed some distros GNOME or KDE or whatever, desktops look way different from other distros using the same desktop. I have no clue what goes into such customization and I’d rather not install a lesser know, possibly unstable distro just because of their specific spin of a DE, ya know? I suppose I need to learn more about customizing environments myself, but don’t know where to begin, other than the obvious built in settings you can tweak

borzthewolf,

Awesome! Thank you. I did check my Linux mint repos last night and there was only a cutefish base package. I downloaded it but couldn’t get it working. There’s clearly something I’m missing lol not saavy enough to know what

borzthewolf,

It looks like they reopened as there’s a cutefish reborn distro that recently came out, but I’m obviously a skeptic and it seems sketchy to me. Idk I figured just the DE should be fine, but again idk

borzthewolf,

Thank you!

Still trying to figure out this Lemmy ordeal. lots of overlapping and not enough specific groups, so I feel this should belong here (lemmy.world)

So I’m struggling to understand all the different types of usb standards like 2.0, 3.1, 3.2, 4.0, etc. I am interested in only USB c to USB c. I’ve read about higher data transfer speeds? I’m confused by what that actually means. Is that like transferring files from your laptop to an external drive? Basically sending files...

borzthewolf,

Not sure if snark or sincere? But thanks? Its so hard to get a feel for this placecomparesd to reddit, its mostly nasty, snarky individuals

borzthewolf,

I’m sorry this went over my head, but what do you mean by this?

borzthewolf,

Ahh ok so you connect your laptop to the dock via thunderbolt? Thats sorta been the idea I’ve been thinking; just focus on first getting one great cable to link the laptop to a docking station

borzthewolf,

Thanks a lot! So to be clear, the cable that links my laptop to a dock isn’t as important as I’m thinking it may be? Or are you saying I’d be best off investing in a nice thunderbolt 4?

borzthewolf,

Thanks, I just dont quite understand this data rate portion of these cables. Is that strictly just transferring files within your network to other devices?

borzthewolf,

Thanks a lot for this info. Even after getting one usb c port replaced on my dell xps 13 9310, but still, the sensitivity of usb c has been so frustrating! Its like the slightest little jerk or bump of a plugged in usb stick will cause it to disconnect or just the slightest movement of a charging cable will disconnect, it ughhh its annoying. I really need one nice, fortified usb type c connector cable to plug in and just leave it plugged into the dock. Then no more using the shoddy usb c ports on my laptop! But determining just exactly what cable would be best for the link from laptop to dock has been difficult for me to determine. I’m thinking a ugreen right elbow cable. I feel the 90 degree elbow would help in reducing strain and allowing a better connection

borzthewolf,

Man I get stingy and always have to go for the nicer products, even if I dont need them lol I’ve been eyeing thinkpad, dell, anker, and pluggable docks mostly. There’s a brand called wavlink too that has great deals but can seem to find much info on them

borzthewolf,

Wtf??Gosh this Lemmy universe is so much different. Doesn’t feel extremely micromanaged lol

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