RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

I actually agree with you. Chocolate is great, but you never know heaven till you had white chocolate.

morphballganon,

Tell me you only buy low-quality confections without telling me you only buy low-quality confections.

Buy yourself one of these: m.media-amazon.com/…/81+PzvS1KpS._AC_UF894,1000_Q…

Then here’s the trick: only eat a small piece at a time, like 1 square inch. Savor it. Don’t immediately follow it with anything. Let the flavor completely leave your mouth on its own before you have anything else.

MonkderZweite,

Shut it. Debating taste is pointless.

Dangdoggo,
@Dangdoggo@kbin.social avatar

What! I mean, yes, it is pretty unproductive. But occasionally, incredibly rarely, debating taste leads to a phenomenal new innovation, some new understanding. Just not among non-chefs I guess

TheBlackSwordsman,
@TheBlackSwordsman@lemmy.world avatar

You’re wrong

FruitfullyYours,

So technically speaking the % dark is the amount of cocoa (solids+butter) / total. There really isn’t a standard way that dark chocolate is defined otherwise.

Therefore you can have a 75% dark chocolate that is well balanced (70% cocoa, 5% added cocoa butter, 25% sugar) but have it be less dark than a white chocolate that is 80% cocoa butter and 20% other stuff since it’s technically 80% dark.

Not really sure where I’m going with this other than to say generalities in chocolate, like saying all dark chocolate is sour, suck. In any case, white chocolate is usually crap

BCsven,

White Chocolate we are talking about here right? the ivory looking cocoa butter bar with 0 browness.

Lowered_lifted,
@Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world avatar

They’re saying that the % in dark chocolate is percentage of cocoa in general, which would include both cocoa butter (the only “chocolate” part of white chocolate) and cocoa solids (the fermented product of the cocoa bean, what I would consider to be chocolate). I’m not sure how accurate this is because I always thought it was a measure of percentage of cocoa solids, not just “cocoa” in general which would include the butter. I could be mistaken.

BCsven,

I see. I always assumed darker % meant more of the fermented chocolate, since at some point it is almoay dry tasting without the buttery component.

Lowered_lifted,
@Lowered_lifted@lemmy.world avatar

I always assumed that too which is why it was a weird comment. I explained it but I don’t agree with it

jmanjones,

Does anyone have any white chocolate candies they recommend?

YooBitches,
@YooBitches@lemmy.world avatar

I’m very much in love with Schogetten white chocolate. It’s not candies but it’s split into pecies and they just melt in your mouth.

NuPNuA,

It’s not even real chocolate. Dark chocolate for the win. At least 70% or bust.

naticus,

I have to stop about 70%. Every 80%+ tastes like plastic to me, it’s a weird sensation for me. Have always loved 70% dark chocolate though, as well as milk.

White? It’s mostly a toleration rather than an enjoyment. I like it in a few specific things like a white mocha or a few varieties of cookies. But never by itself.

Nacktmull,

I tried 99%, it is not for everyday but really interesting, complex flavor.

Nacktmull,

I tried 99%, it is not for everyday but really interesting, complex flavor.

NuPNuA,

Yeah, I’ve had 99%, think it would have been great for cooking but it just formed a bitter mush in my mouth when I ate it. No snap at all.

Nacktmull,

Sounds like it was not conched properly during production

julietOscarEcho,

This is the real unpopular opinion. 99% is like eating coffee grounds. I assume it only exists so people can feign sophistication.

Nacktmull, (edited )

Yeah right, if you don´t find it interesting, it must be fake when others say they do

julietOscarEcho,

Have you tasted 99% though. Bleurgh

Nacktmull,

I tried 99%, it is not for everyday but really interesting, complex flavor.

Magicianfox,

I also think white is better than dark chocolate, but what kind of dark chocolate you’re eating that’s sour? Dark chocolate is supposed to be bitter.

spiffeeroo,

American chocolates (like Hershey’s) tend to taste more sour because they have more sugar and less cacao. The milk also tends to have a more butyric acid taste for some reason. Perhaps the difference is how the milk is treated, but those are trade secrets.

Reliant1087,

I was surprised the first time I bought a Hershey’s bar and it tasted a bit like vomit.

Urbanfox,

Same, my brother returned from the US and I was excited to try Hershey’s and was horrified to find it tasted like puke. The next one did too.

They all sat on the table for weeks before they got thrown away which is unheard of in our house with sweets.

Cadbury isn’t the best in the world or anything but not tasting like puke is like, up there in the list of things that make chocolate good.

deadbeef79000,

butyric acid is more prevalent in US chocolate for some accident of history.

So, to non-Americans, American chocolate takes like vomit.

Rotten_potato,

IIRC, this “accident” is simply because chocolate producers figured out it’s cheaper to make the milk slightly taste like vomit (something the Americans apparently didn’t mind too much) than cooling it properly. I think nowadays that wouldn’t really fly but back then cheaper chocolate was maybe so desirable that consumers didn’t mind the weird taste.

agnomeunknown,
@agnomeunknown@lemmy.world avatar

Adam Ragusea did a great video about the history of Hershey’s and how that flavor probably came to be so prevalent. Very worth the watch. youtu.be/J44svaQc5WY

Reliant1087,

That’s kind of fucked up. Especially since chocolate isn’t an essential food.

Reliant1087,

Same. Cadbury is pretty okay.

Koboldschadenfroh,

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  • kaffiene,

    US chocolate is really bad

    PelagiusSeptim,

    But OP mentions dark chocolate, not milk chocolate

    M1k3y,
    @M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Wow I didnt know that this is such an unpopular opinion. There’s nothing wrong with liking white chocolate.

    Liking white chocolate doesnt mean not liking chocolate. When i want sth sweet, i prefer white chocolate, but I’m also a fan of dark chocolate (60%-80%).

    antik,
    @antik@lemmy.world avatar

    As a Belgian I consider myself a bit of an ambassador on chocolate and after discussing this with all my fellow countrymen we came to the unanimous conclusion that you are wrong. Please apologize and remove this post.

    themeatbridge,

    I asked the Netherlanders what they thought of your comment, and I couldn’t understand a fucking word they said, but they seemed angry.

    Hyggyldy,

    Are you sure they weren’t American? We’re always getting angry at things we don’t understand.

    hubobes,
    @hubobes@lemmy.world avatar

    As a Swiss I feel like I can easily out-ambassador you and I will disagree. White chocolate is awesome and OP should keep loving it.

    1d420,

    If you prefer white chocolate to other kinds you just don’t like chocolate that much, which is fine, but don’t lie to us about it

    BeigeAgenda,
    @BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

    But you are missing out on all the good stuff in dark chocolate like theobromine, there’s much less of that in white chocolate.

    cley_faye,

    Maybe because it’s not chocolate and we should stop calling it this.

    throwsbooks,

    Depends! If you consider chocolate to be food derived from the cocoa bean, then white chocolate is chocolate because it’s made of cocoa butter without the solids!

    The powdery stuff you call cocoa is what’s left over once you get rid of the cocoa butter. So if you feel that cocoa solids are required for something to be classified as chocolate… Then no, it’s not chocolate.

    Nacktmull,

    Now let´s also consider the fact that cocoa butter is free of chocolate flavor because all the chocolate flavor remains in the cocoa powder after the separation.

    Otakat,

    Hence white chocolate

    Nacktmull, (edited )

    white chocolate aka chocolate without any chocolate flavor

    mranachi,

    I guess it’s the same as asking if vegetable oil is a vegetable.

    kaffiene,

    Chocolate is cocoa and cocoa butter by definition

    idunnololz,
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    It scratches the same itch for me ¯*(ツ)*/¯

    LonelyWendigo,

    Wait, is dark chocolate actually sour to you? Dark chocolate is definitely not sour for me. Bitter maybe, but absolutely not sour.

    orrk,

    if they are American then dark chocolate can very well taste sour, look into what Hershey did, literally use soured milk to make chocolate…

    AA5B,

    In the US, we’ve gotten some really good chocolate over the last couple of decades and I’ve mostly avoided Hersheys over that time. We especially have some excellent dark chocolates. Your “bad chocolate” stereotype was all too true and may still be on average, but things are changing.

    I’ve never tasted good white chocolate though

    EhList,
    @EhList@lemmy.world avatar

    High amounts of criollo beans can grant a sour taste if I recall correctly particularly if they are lower quality as can the method you choose for conching (one of the steps in chocolate making) that Milton Hershey created. If they are thinking of something like Hershey’s Special Dark that has a bit of that sourness to it.

    Anti_Weeb_Penguin,
    @Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world avatar

    I am not a native english speaker and i always forget about the word “bitter”, i will correct the post, thanks.

    NotMichaelCera,

    Im glad you like your sugary milky butter. Have the day you deserve.

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