MagneticFusion,

Yet people will still use Chrome/Chromium based browsers

MapTheft,

I’m trying to make the switch over to FF, but Vivaldi just has so many features I find useful.

MagneticFusion,

Are they more helpful than extensions though? I love Vivaldi but their adblocker is so weak that it can’t block youtube ads, I may be wrong on that but thats how it was last time I checked. There are also redirect extensions on Firefox to take you to privacy friendly frontends for popular websites. Dark reader extension also makes the browsing experience better.

Edit, I forgot the best of them all. Firefox Multiaccount Containers

MapTheft,

The web panel is the feature I’m missing the most currently. I’ve tried, without success, to replicate the tab bar to the bottom of the window too.

dantheclamman,
@dantheclamman@lemmy.world avatar

I wish they’d add a tablet UI. Doesn’t seem to be prioritized whatsoever. Pre-Fenix they had it and have been patiently waiting for tabs to return on large screens ever since, but have lost hope.

mishimaenjoyer,
@mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social avatar

i hope mozilla is already working on an iOS version for the EU market ;)

aquarisces,

This is the only reason why I keep using Safari on iOS. If Firefox can get extensions working for iOS I’ll switch over the day it’s available.

mishimaenjoyer,
@mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social avatar

i miss(ed) exactly two things on iOS: a proper imageboard reader (fixed, there are now chance and janchan) and stand alone firefox, wich is now just a matter of time.

sab,

I don’t see how they would, since ios Firefox doesn’t use the same rendering engine it uses on other platforms, Gecko. Instead it has to use Safari, just like any other browser on there.

Duplicating support for all existing extensions would be pretty much impossible if you don’t control the rendering engine.

lustyargonian,

That’s going to change in EU as Apple will be forced to allow side loading apps.

mishimaenjoyer,
@mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social avatar

this. they simply have to port the version they're developing for android now and we're golden. i guess it might find it's way on non-eu-devices by community builds and testflight.

lustyargonian,

Yeah it’ll be a big task nonetheless. Firefox for Android needed gecko components to be ready to make use of gecko view, their rendering “engine”. iOS may be need its own version of gecko view, at least the bindings for it, as well as a new set of components for all the UI elements a full fledged browser may need.

sab,

I heard about allowing alternative app stores, but I’m not sure if that also removes the browser engine restrictions. (would make sense though, from an anti-monopoly pov)

lustyargonian,

The restriction is from App Store, and bypassing it removes that hurdle. Microsoft faced the same issue when they were trying to launch their cloud streaming service within their app, not because they technically couldn’t, but because Apple wouldn’t let them to.

sab,

Ahhh, that makes sense. Thanks!

hornedfiend,

That’s nice,but it would have been great to get certificates into Firefox mobile. Those are exclusive to Chrome browsers and that sucks.

just_another_person,

No clue what you mean. Explain.

hornedfiend,

I mean mainly allowing usage of user installed certificates required by mTLS,or at least that’s my use case. My company requires this in order to get access to company resources or better yet governments also require it for their online services.

mrvictory1,

Mobile FF is already awesome with UBlock Origin and YT background playback extensions. I wish to install an auto redirect extension. (Twitter to Nitter) I know it is doable on beta w/ extensions etc. but I want to see them on normal Firefox.

Thisisforfun,

I used to have an app to do the redirection on several sites automically but afair the Nitter thing was just so unstable that I removed the app.

fernandorincon,

Same, like 30% of the time it worked, the other 70% it would be very slow or not load at all

QuazarOmega,

It might have been some time ago, because even the main instance has been consistently working for me as of recent

Thisisforfun,

Yeah this winter and spring

Lord_Boffum,

Have a look at YouTube ReVanced if you want a much better YouTube experience on Android. :)

sir_reginald,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

use Newpipe, it’s free software, unlike revanced.

1ird,
@1ird@notyour.rodeo avatar

You can install tamper monkey and use a userscript to redirect. That’s what I do.

nix,
@nix@merv.news avatar

Orion Browser by the team that makes the Kagi search engine makes this possible on ios already

just_another_person,

Nah. They use hacks. This is native.

scytale,

It’s the next best thing on IOS because you can’t install extensions on FF.

just_another_person,

Next best thing aint the same thing. Blame Apple for that.

Prethoryn,
@Prethoryn@lemmy.world avatar

The user’s point still stands. He was offering an exception if you don’t want to wait on FF or Apple to change something for FF. Quit being smug aka an asshole.

just_another_person,

Not being smug at all. They are polar opposites to most people.

EyesEyesBaby,

I don’t care what others are saying, but I’ve never heard of this browser and I’m definitely going to give it a try. Wish I knew about this one sooner.

darth_helmet,

Orion supports Firefox and chrome extensions

ch1cken,

Only a very small set of them though, and their functionality would likely be limited. Hopefully non-webkit browsers will come to ios soon, with proper desktop addons, following the eu pressuring them into allowing sideloading.

callyral,
@callyral@kbin.social avatar

What about Kiwi and Iceraven (Iceraven is a Firefox fork which has more extensions)

clearedtoland,

Just when Google thought it could kill adblocking…

jpj007,

Well as far as adblocking goes, mobile FireFox already supports uBlock Origin.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Stop lying, Kiwi has been around for so long

DarkThoughts,

They probably mean official browsers, not random forks.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

How is Kiwi less a browser than firefox? Non-sense

DarkThoughts,

It's an inofficial fork of an official browser. Where are you struggling to comprehend this?

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

An “official” browser? So the web relies on named authorities now? That’s just disrespect from big players. This shall not be tolerated.

sir_reginald,
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar
Wyrryel,

Thanks for cross-posting instead of re-posting!

crowsby,
@crowsby@lemmy.world avatar

Kudos to them for rolling out support more widely, but it’s a bit misleading as Firefox nightly/Fennec has supported extensions for years (albeit via a cumbersome process), and Kiwi Browser is also a thing.

I can’t understand how folks out there are just rawdogging the Internet out there without ublock or at least a DNS ad filter. Admittedly, Chrome runs a hair more smoothly, but the ability to use extensions like uBlock / DarkReader / Consent-O-Matic make the Firefox experience a tier above.

I just hope this makes it possible to install the Bypass Paywalls extension again so I don’t have to hop over to Kiwi for that.

Mininux,
@Mininux@sh.itjust.works avatar

Doesn’t it already support them ?

edit: yes it already supports them, but it seems that now there will be more focus on mobile

edit2: also they forgot about kiwi, but then it’s not a major browser (and is it still maintained ?). still would’ve been cool if they corrected this

Wild_Mastic,

Yeah, kiwi is still supported and got an UI update a month ago. But it’s chromium based if remember correctly.

noodlejetski,

it also whitelists ad blockers from working on some, presumably “partnered”, websites.

sugarfree,
@sugarfree@lemmy.world avatar

Firefox does?

ominouslemon,

Kiwi does, not firefox

whats_a_refoogee,

What? You just install the uBlock Origin extension. Are you saying it overrides domain and element blocks from uBlock?

It’s open source so if you could point to the code that does it, that would be great: github.com/kiwibrowser/src

noodlejetski,
MrFlamey,

Didn’t know that. I also got some kind of shady vibes from Kiwi, but never run into any issues with it. Firefox was causing all kinds of problems with pages failing to load so I bailed, but would be glad to return if they fix the bugs and add full extension support.

Mininux,
@Mininux@sh.itjust.works avatar

oh I didn’t know, pretty cool

at least both chromium and Firefox get a version with add ons

XEAL,

Nightly versions and Fennec.

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Mull too

dansity,

This article was weird for me also I have all my extension already installed like bitwarden for passwords and all kind of adblockers and scriptblockers

hotwarioinyourarea,

But didn’t it used to support desktop extensions on mobile before the redesign about 3 years ago? Also, hasn’t Kiwi had extensions for like 6 years?

ladel,

Yeah, it definitely did. Then they all broke suddenly. I even ditched firefox for a while because of that.

radix,
@radix@lemmy.world avatar

That was definitely the most infuriating thing they’d done with the mobile browser. The whole project started decades ago with a simple plan: make the most bare-bones browser, and let people customize it with any extensions they wanted. Then all of a sudden, it turned into having <10 approved extensions, and fuck your customization.

It’s gotten much better over time since then, but damn if there weren’t a few really bad years.

sramder,

I think they went evil because letting google pay 80% of your bills isn’t really tenable… but some incredibly boneheaded decisions. Instead of offering their own suite of privacy focused products they tried to cram pocket down everyone’s throats.

I love Firefox but they have made some crushingly bad calls over the years.

z3rOR0ne,
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

It does make me suspect that when Google first funded them, the real handshake had little to do with using them as their default search engine, and instead had to do with cutting back on their focus on privacy to pursue literally anything else. But that’s just a conspiracy theory of mine.

asteriskeverything,

I like these types of conspiracy theories

Chickenstalker,

Google funds Firefox so that it serves as a controlled opposition and to avoid antitrust action. However, most of the stupid decisions by Mozilla are self-inflicted by top management who are more focused on being an NGO than a tech company.

notasandwich1948,

you still can get them, they are just hidden

juice,

First? What about Kiwi browser? Edit: I just remembered even old firefox supported most desktop addons…

lorkano,

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