Firefox to become first mobile browser to support desktop extensions later this year
Source: blog.mozilla.org/…/prepare-your-firefox-desktop-e…
Archived version: archive.ph/x9dHq
Source: blog.mozilla.org/…/prepare-your-firefox-desktop-e…
Archived version: archive.ph/x9dHq
krebstar, But not on ios…How do we get adblocking in ios?
redditReallySucks, Firefox on iOS is just safari with a Firefox logo
d7eeem, The weird thing is Safari has extensions
JTskulk, You don’t lol. Beg Tim Apple for it.
sir_reginald, you’re buying the wrong phone. this is a limitation imposed only by apple, forcing every browser on iOS to be Safari re-skinned
Mubelotix, Stop lying, Kiwi has been around for so long
DarkThoughts, They probably mean official browsers, not random forks.
Mubelotix, How is Kiwi less a browser than firefox? Non-sense
DarkThoughts, It's an inofficial fork of an official browser. Where are you struggling to comprehend this?
Mubelotix, An “official” browser? So the web relies on named authorities now? That’s just disrespect from big players. This shall not be tolerated.
sir_reginald,
jamms, Firefox on Android used to do this. I switched to Kiwi when they dropped it.
Parakeet, Have had same on my phone. Installed uBlock origin a long time ago
sir_reginald,
eeltech, (edited ) And yet they’ve turned their back on *Android tablet users and refuse to support the tab bar.
github.com/mozilla-mobile/fenix/issues/2344
Ridiculous. Only reason I switched to Vivaldi
CifrareVerba, Which is odd considering it’s been a “first class citizen” on iPadOS by supporting features: lowyat.net/…/the-new-firefox-for-ipad-now-support…
Vivaldi is great though, I hope you’ve enjoyed it thus far!
Goodtoknow, iOS/iPad OS is relatively much easier to develop and it’s a completely different branch from Android as it’s a skin on top of Safari Web View. All other platform use their own Quantum/Gecko Engine.
CifrareVerba, Right, however, a basic tablet UI which Firefox previously had and many browsers have shouldn’t be hard for Mozilla to implement on Android.
Android has scaling so a tablet UI should look normal on most devices.
sir_reginald, if you want to get things done, use a real OS and not an artificially limited mobile OS.
Ascend910, Everyone forgets Kiwi Browser :(
OskarAxolotl, Have been using it for years.
protput, (edited ) Kiwi is a mobile only browser if I’m not mistaken. This article is about DESKTOP extensions working on mobile. Firefox already supported a limited set of (mobile) extensions for a while.
Edit. Sorry. I stand corrected. Might try kiwi even.
QuazarOmega, Well yes, Kiwi supports Chromium extensions, it’s the same concept
sir_reginald,
mrvictory1, Mobile FF is already awesome with UBlock Origin and YT background playback extensions. I wish to install an auto redirect extension. (Twitter to Nitter) I know it is doable on beta w/ extensions etc. but I want to see them on normal Firefox.
Thisisforfun, I used to have an app to do the redirection on several sites automically but afair the Nitter thing was just so unstable that I removed the app.
fernandorincon, Same, like 30% of the time it worked, the other 70% it would be very slow or not load at all
QuazarOmega, It might have been some time ago, because even the main instance has been consistently working for me as of recent
Thisisforfun, Yeah this winter and spring
Lord_Boffum, Have a look at YouTube ReVanced if you want a much better YouTube experience on Android. :)
sir_reginald, use Newpipe, it’s free software, unlike revanced.
1ird, You can install tamper monkey and use a userscript to redirect. That’s what I do.
chemicalwonka, The more extensions you install in your browser, the more easier is to track your behavior on internet.
cyborganism, They already support uBlock origin and that’s all I need.
KneeTitts, On android I find its also a good idea to have a system wide ad blocker solution because android and all their apps are so inundated by ads, so I recommend dns66 (which can be found on fdroid) which has multiple blocklists you can subscribe to. This will cover some ads thats are built directly into apps and almost all ads that would appear in websites on a browser. This helps a lot since some apps will open a browser window for -reasons- and they sometimes have their own internal browser or they will just use chrome by default, not respecting your default browser choice, and in those cases you cant have ublock installed to protect you and those pages are so ad-overloaded that finding what you are looking for is next to impossible.
cyborganism, Yeah I wish I could edit my hosts file for example so it blocks all advertisement websites.
raker, Try Blokada
kamenLady, I’m using dns.adguard.com as private dns provider in Android s network settings. Am i doing it wrong? I never see ads in any apps or browsers though… they are blocked everywhere
wahming, Seems like many people aren’t aware that’s an option
time_fo_that, I’ve got a Pihole set up running on my NAS but unfortunately it’s really difficult to find ad tracking lists that both 1) block ads effectively and 2) don’t break a large portion of webpages
hellishharlot, Dark Reader too
gun, Whoa 🤯. Never realized this somehow. That’s awesome. No ads on mobile.
Moderator, On iOS or just Android?
cyborganism, Oh on Android for me.
rob_t_firefly, That’s nice, maybe they can finally re-enable about:config in the damn thing too. They removed it from mobile Firefox years ago and the lack of it aggravates the hell out of me.
SneakyThunder, It’s available in nightly (and I think dev) builds
notasandwich1948, probably in normal Firefox too, it’s just hidden in all of them
ChaoticNeutralCzech, If you don’t want to use the potentially unstable Nightly, Dev or Beta, you can use Fennec (stable builds with dev features).
viking, Fennec still supports it, just as it supports add-ons from the official Mozilla store. Don’t see any reason why I should go back to the official app.
balance_sheet, Fennec is awesome. I’m never going back to anything else.
viking, Yup. Unless they break anything, which I can’t really imagine at this point.
kubj31196, Is there an easy way to migrate from the official app to Fennec? Keeping accounts, extensions and settings?
viking, If you have enabled the sync feature in Firefox, it seamlessly works with Fennec; as does the integration between Fennec and Firefox Desktop. Simply log on with your Firefox account in Fennec, and you won’t even feel the difference.
kenbw2, How do I make use of this? I can’t see a way to install them on my Fennec from F Droid
limerod, You have to add a custom addons collection. That’s how.
lord_ryvan, I haven’t gotten around making them and using them, and it seems every guide online is vastly out of date
Mininux, Doesn’t it already support them ?
edit: yes it already supports them, but it seems that now there will be more focus on mobile
edit2: also they forgot about kiwi, but then it’s not a major browser (and is it still maintained ?). still would’ve been cool if they corrected this
Wild_Mastic, Yeah, kiwi is still supported and got an UI update a month ago. But it’s chromium based if remember correctly.
noodlejetski, it also whitelists ad blockers from working on some, presumably “partnered”, websites.
sugarfree, Firefox does?
ominouslemon, Kiwi does, not firefox
whats_a_refoogee, What? You just install the uBlock Origin extension. Are you saying it overrides domain and element blocks from uBlock?
It’s open source so if you could point to the code that does it, that would be great: github.com/kiwibrowser/src
noodlejetski,
MrFlamey, Didn’t know that. I also got some kind of shady vibes from Kiwi, but never run into any issues with it. Firefox was causing all kinds of problems with pages failing to load so I bailed, but would be glad to return if they fix the bugs and add full extension support.
Mininux, oh I didn’t know, pretty cool
at least both chromium and Firefox get a version with add ons
XEAL, Nightly versions and Fennec.
Blaze, Mull too
dansity, This article was weird for me also I have all my extension already installed like bitwarden for passwords and all kind of adblockers and scriptblockers
MrFlamey, I’ve been using Kiwi browser for ages and it’s had extension support the entire time since I quit using Firefox on mobile. I would still be using Firefox if it hadn’t just kept randomly not loading pages anymore and requiring a restart, because it did at least support the one extension I can’t live without; ublock origin, but the bugs were just too much. I might give Firefox mobile another shot when this new version hits stable release.
where_am_i, No, no, no! It was supporting all the desktop extensions. For years. Until the damn buggy rewrite for no good reason. And then we were suddenly left with like 5 of them.
For a year after that I was still running the last stable release. But unfortunately the web evolves too fast.
Racle, At least with firefox beta, you can create your own collection of extensions and use those. That’s what I do and I can install any extension.
More here: androidpolice.com/install-add-on-extension-mozill…
landsharkkidd, I have it on Firefox Nightly with the dev stuff. It’s pretty great tbh
lemmyingly, Not all extensions appear to be compatible at the moment. I know if I add a couple of my favorite desktop extensions to my collection that it breaks.
landsharkkidd, Hmm… interesting. I’m able to use ublock and two extensions for fanfiction. That’s interesting that it just breaks for you.
lemmyingly, Maybe you’re lucky with your extensions of choice.
I’m not saying all extensions I tried adding broke the collection - only a couple did; the other extensions worked as expected.
landsharkkidd, Yeah I suppose so. I have a BUNCH of extension on my desktop Firefox, but I don’t need much on my mobile version tbh. Especially since I have a few extensions that work for websites that already have apps (like I have sponsorblock and pockettube for YouTube but there’s no point in installing them on my mobile FF since I have the YouTube app so…).
lemmyingly, I actively don’t use the YouTube app.
No adblocker, sponsorblock, or return the dislike button.
I also don’t use the app for a website if the mobile website is good enough. Less software on my phone, so a reduced amount of storage used on apps, fewer updates, hopefully reduced CPU and battery consumption, fewer security issues, reduced data collection, and my phone is just a little cleaner to use. Everyone has their own preference, this is just mine :)
landsharkkidd, Fair enough. You’re a far stronger person then I am haha.
Blimp7990, “no good reason”
spoken like someone who has never tried to use that browser. it definitely supported addons, but tried to implement 2015 features to run on 2002-tier hardware
ChaoticNeutralCzech, It still does, experimentally, if you enable developer settings, rather unintuitively through a Firefox Add-Ons account. Developer settings are not available in the official release but the Nightly builds as well as some forks, like 🦊Fennec, include them. Of course the addon settings often look out of place on a small screen and things like uBlock’s Block Element picker do not work as intended.
Blimp7990, fennec is just the code name for the rewrite, hence the fdroid built-from-source name
theres a limited number of available addons in fennec unless you go through hoops (used to be you could make a ‘collection’ dunno if thats still the dumbass-workaround-of-choice for the dumbass devs)
ChaoticNeutralCzech, Well, the bizarre collection workaround is present in Beta and Nightly releases as well, and is intentionally well hidden. It also allows installing/uninstalling extensions quickly when testing on multiple devices, or sharing extension collections with testers. It is indeed needlessly convoluted for users but I would not describe the workaround as dumbass if it works well for the intended audience. You are correct, plenty of Firefox’s advantages can only be achieved by modifying the settings from defaults, often through developers’ hacky about:config keys. Mozilla thinks that mass adoption and their financial security is only possible if they make a noob-friendly browser with a few big buttons and Google search so tech-savvy people need to jump through hoops (profile importing etc.) to quickly set up the browser to their liking.
Blimp7990, (edited ) Its dumbass because if the addons work on mobile, let people use them. Instead they said “you can use these 5 addons, and you can use any addon you please if you jump through our hoops, like setting compact mode to enabled in about:config because we want to gather usage data that shows nobody misses compact mode”.
I’m *genuinely *shocked the folks at mozilla are even bothering to finish addon support.
Like don’t get me wrong, i love firefox and I support them in general, but holy shit is firefox gunning for its current userbase in an attempt to synthesize users that may or may not exist. And I think the way they manage these contentious choices is poor at best. Where the scale is from how-signal-removed-sms to the-windows-11-taskbar, they get 138.2.
spikespaz, Kiwi Browser
MichaelTen, Yep.
MichaelTen, Kiwi already does
noodle, It’s long overdue. I’ve been running Nightly to get around the shockingly limited number of addons available on Firefox for Android. Hopefully Mozzila don’t fumble the bag with this as its a great opportunity to steal users from Chrome.
raptir, I do find it funny when people talk about how few extensions are supported, when it has the best extension support of any mobile browser.
Like I get it, but still.
noodle, Relative to desktop, it is comparatively few.
Best on mobile, yes. The few they allow in FFfA stable is a tiny amount considering how many actually can work, but Mozilla arbitrarily decided they won’t allow.
NickNak, It used to be able to support all desktop addons but they for some reason took that away a while back
raptir, The reason was they completely rewrote the mobile browser.
NickNak, I didn’t know it was a mass rewrite, I just assumed they ruined the UI and features to “keep” up with mobile chrome, as most of these big tech companies do
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