YouTube is now fully blocking ad blockers around the world
cross-posted from: lemdro.id/post/2787773 (!google)
cross-posted from: lemdro.id/post/2787773 (!google)
DaCrazyJamez, I installed an invidious extension on firefox that auto redirects all youtube links. I recommend it.
ikidd, Libredirect + Piped server = better youtube than youtube ever was.
LoyalOrange503, Is there a fediverse alternative to youtube?
noxy, No, they most certainly are not.
Orbituary, Shhhhh. Don’t tell anyone the way.
JustMy2c, Be brave, tell everyone
ryan_, I’m self hosting an invidious instance and not once have I noticed any interruptions. 10/10 just use a public invidious instance and be done with it
Anonymousllama, I get there’s a heap of people on here who’ve somehow never seen these new anti-popup measures before, but they’re definitely becoming more prevalent.
I switched to uBlock and purged the caches and it seems to have fixed the issue (for now anyway)
At some point I’ll have to find a more permanent solution like switching browsers but right now things are working
Yinchie, Use clients such as LibreTube. It works great and even allows skipping sponsored content.
snausagesinablanket, purged the caches
Do this daily.
yata, I only had to do it once. Haven’t seen the pop up since.
aniki, deleted_by_author
perviouslyiner, deleted_by_author
atrielienz, No. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
LordKitsuna, a more permanent solution would be using an alternative front end like piped. there are a lot of public instances available
doctorcrimson, But it’s difficult to trust Piped and other 3rd parties with your login credentials. Especially for people who make a living on YouTube. Even if they themselves might be trustworthy, they can’t be perfectly secure, so it becomes added vulnerability.
LordKitsuna, wait what? piped doesn’t use your login in any way tho? you manually import subscriptions from Google checkout and you create a piped specific login for syncing that across devices. at no point will piped ever ask for your Google account
doctorcrimson, Ah, cool then.
yata, I saw them, then I purged ublocks cache and updated and they have been gone ever since (also on firefox, because I switched as soon as I read the news that they would pull this stunt on all chromium browsers a year ago).
Nihilore, If you have a VPN just set your location to a place they don’t run ads
iAmTheTot, I have not changed anything about my browsing habits and I spend like 12 hours a day on YT, haven't yet seen this. Not very universal.
rurutheguru, 3 similar but different questions:
- Where do you use YouTube (phone, pc, etc)
- Where do you use YouTube (country, location)
- Where do you use YouTube (browser, app, etc)
imPastaSyndrome, Pc, usa, chrome
breakfastmtn, PC (ubuntu) and Android both w/ FF & uB. Have yet to see this in Canada.
But it does typically take Google a little while to remember that we’re part of the world…
iAmTheTot, My phone, my partner's phone, home pc, my partner's home pc, work pc, laptop, tv. Canada.
registrert, I don’t get it, I use a variety of browsers and apps, with or without VPN. I even scrape channel RSS from the same IP and have never seen this.
rurutheguru, You didn’t state if you use an adblock extension, which is what this is all about.
registrert, Using some sort of ad-blocking is default. I haven’t seen more than the occasional ad before the filters update for more than a decade and a half.
meldrik, Switched to FreeTube. Problem solved.
JoMomma, Did someone forget to purge their uBlock caches?
systemglitch, Exactly. Takes five seconds.
guyrocket, I'm not having YT problems but have never done this.
Could someone explain how?
Krudler, Open the uBlock Dashboard, then in the Filter Lists tab click the Purge All Caches button (then the Update now button)
_dev_null, For quicker syncing, you can:
Open uBlock Settings -> click Filter Lists tab -> type “quick” into search box -> click clock icon for “uBlock filters – Quick fixes” -> click “Update Now” button up top
That will only clear the cache for the fixes that actually counter the youtube countermeasures. Helpful if it takes a long time to download and refresh when all of the caches are invalidated.
ReginaPhalange, Question. Wouldn’t the catch-all solution for YT is to pair the AJAX calls for the video with a “view video key”, and that key to be found out after running a deeply obviouscated javascript served with the html of the “view video” page?
They could even bundle some of the key-building-js with the ad being served.
At some point in order to “block the ad” , the ad blocker would have to run or analyze tons of JS code , making the ordeal to difficult to compute.
Corngood, My guess is they can’t afford the complication on the server side.
They could probably force the ad to be decoded by asking the client for proof. They couldn’t prove that it was actually shown to the user though.
What I don’t understand is why they don’t block downloading the video during the period where an ad is supposed to be playing.
cypherpunks, I think that is actually what they’ve already been doing for at least a decade?
Whenever you download a youtube video using something other than a js-enabled browser, then I think something like yt-dlp’s jsinterp.py needs to evaluate some javascript to extract the key.
Treczoks, No, it doesn’t. I have neither seen a block, nor have I seen ads. Is that a Windows-only problem then?
FartsWithAnAccent, lol, good luck with that Google
melroy, (edited ) No problems using Firefox (as always)
TrickDacy, Such as?
melroy, Sorry I meant to say: No problems using Firefox. :D
hanni, I’ll just use an ad blocker-blocker
netchami, uBlock Origin has that feature built in
yata, That is what google uses, after all they attempt to block your adblocker. You would need an ad blocker-blocker-blocker.
verysoft, Firefox + uBlock Origin here still holding strong.
netchami, LibreWolf (Fork of Firefox without the crap like Pocket or Sponsored sites) is great too. It also comes preinstalled with uBlock Origin. It’s what I recommend to everyone.
verysoft, I'd rather not personally. I can just disable all that anyway.
netchami, LibreWolf also makes significant privacy and security improvements by applying certain settings from Arkenfox user.js and from the Tor Browser. Sure, I can debloat and harden Firefox myself, but all of that is already done on LibreWolf, so that’s what I recommend to new users, as they like to stick to the default settings.
verysoft, Yeah its fair enough, but it's easier to just use FF for me, I don't care if they want some anonymous usage statistics and trying to be fully private online is a fools errand. Base FF is good enough imo.
netchami, It’s not just Mozilla telemetry that LibreWolf protects you against, it also prevents random websites from fingerprinting you and the preinstalled uBlock Origin blocks trackers and all of that shit
TheGreatFox, I’m also on Librewolf, but most people are not all that tech-savvy, so basic Firefox is better for them just because it has auto-update.
ZeroCool, (edited ) It’s also not that difficult to configure hardened Firefox. It takes a minute or two and there are plenty of written and video guides that’ll have even the least tech savvy people up and running quickly. The tech literacy required to reasonably protect your privacy isn’t very high anymore. The biggest hurdle is getting people to care about their privacy in the first place.
Librewolf is a wonderful project but not something I recommend very often in my personal life, if only because most people just don’t need or want that level of protection at the expense of convenience.
netchami, Where does LibreWolf compromise on privacy or security?
coolmojo, You can also use the Firefox profile maker which is basically lets you create a new Firefox profile with the features and hardening you want. The website: ffprofile.com
netchami, I keep forgetting that Windows doesn’t have a proper package manager. From a software architecture point of view, an application shouldn’t be responsible for updates, this should be handled by the operating system or a specific component of it, the package manager (which Windows doesn’t have, at least not by default).
joker125, I still haven’t run into any issues with this setup.
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