eek2121,

uBlock Origin has no issues with blocking ads.

I get trying to fight it via legal means, but it is a solved problem.

nicknoxx,

As an English person I thought yay that means us. Then I remembered. . .

TWeaK,

The EU ruling was in 2016, well before Brexit happened in 2019, so we should have the same law.

Viking_Hippie,

Except that EU court rulings don’t count in countries that stupidly left, no matter when they happened.

You could pass a similar law yourself, but that’s probably not going to happen with either the abysmal Tories or the feckless centrist party Keir “I want to be Tony Blair” Starmer has turned Labour into in charge 😮‍💨

TWeaK,

Nearly all EU rulings up until the UK left in 2019 are a part of British law. If the ruling was before the Brexit referendum then it would definitely count. Specifically with GDPR, the government confirmed that they adopted the EU’s law.

Furthermore, this isn’t a court ruling, it was a written reply from the European Commission, ie the people that wrote the law.

Viking_Hippie,

I guess I sit corrected and pleasantly surprised then 🙂

BlueMagma,

It’s nothing to do with GDPR acording to the link of the post (people should read more than headlines…)

TWeaK,

You’re right, it’s the ePrivacy Directive, which predates GDPR by many years (2002).

hiramfromthechi,
@hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar
HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Not that the social media corps have ever given a shit.

HeavyRaptor,

They give a shit when they start getting fined based on a % of their revenue

sebinspace,

When it’s a percent of the revenue, it’s just the cost of doing business.

Colorcodedresistor,

“that’s a feature, not a bug” - business

themurphy,

Very much not true.

The app Threads from Meta had to be rewritten due to its extensive tracking in the US market. Not legal in the EU.

Colorcodedresistor,

truly rewritten or just, marginalized the tracking features elsewhere. For example, did they just add in a bunch of ‘gotcha’ bullshit;

“by clicking continue you agree to…”

“looks like you were trying to post on threads, agree to this statement to continue”

Zuck and co’ knew well in advance the EU laws, but they made threads as they did and EU was like ‘nah, change it.?’

Sounds more like zuck added in 300% tracking features and EU was satisfied when it got ‘dialed’ down back to 100% tracking features.

i don’t use threads or tik tok or facebook so it’s more of a tin foil hat opinion

TheBlue22,

Thank fuck for EU and GDPR

Hasuris,

“when has the EU ever done anything for us”

Gorgeous_Sloth,

Oh it did.

folkrav,

Almost like something/someone can do some good on one side, and also do stupid stuff on the other. Wild concept, I know.

BlueMagma,

It’s nothing to do with GDPR acording to the link of the post (people should read more than headlines…)

mr_satan, (edited )
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar
Tranus,

You linked a webpage as an embedded image. If you meant to make a link, use:

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/

If you meant to embed: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/210211_chatcontrol-1-1320x1320.jpg

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Thanks

Viking_Hippie,

Apart from the Orwellian scale and invasiveness of the whole thing, I also find the automatic inclusion of cops extremely troubling.

In most if not all countries, you don’t have to have done anything wrong in order for any interaction with cops to potentially harmful up to and including the risk of being murdered by them. And they’re just gonna automatically call them on every false positive of a likely extremely flawed algorithm 😬🤬

Pxtl,
@Pxtl@lemmy.ca avatar

… We’re gonna get another cookie click-through, aren’t we?

TWeaK,

Google: You will accept our legitimate interest and you will like it.

spiderman,

EU to the rescue again!

PM_ME_FEET_PICS,

Rescue lol. The EU is singlehandedly bringing forth the end of online privacy.

wizzor,

You should all go file a complaint with a data protection agency.

The thread in the linked social network suggests concentrating the complaints to the Irish DPC: forms.dataprotection.ie/contact

7heo, (edited )

expired

wizzor,

I didn’t know either, but I figured any option is better, the filings are read by humans after all. Still, as another poster pointed out, the agency is already investigating.

demosthememes,

I only just posted a meme about the EU flooring companies for going against their regulations. It was my first post too :)
I’d really like to add YouTube to it. Godspeed.
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pineapplelover,

The only government actually doing shit. *Also, California

eestileib,

All these fuckers are our neighbors and for many of us former employers.

We know exactly how they think, and what they think of us.

Andreesen is the tip of the iceberg.

Chefdano3,
@Chefdano3@lemm.ee avatar

Cool, so YouTube will start putting pop ups that require you to consent to the detection in order to watch videos. That’s what everyone did with the whole cookies thing when that was determined to be illegal without consent.

ElBarto,
@ElBarto@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nothing more fun than having to go through some websites shitty settings to toggle everything off.

DJDarren,

I can heartily recommend Consent-O-Matic. I’d say that it’s able to clear (and reject by default) the cookie warnings on 95% of the sites I visit.

gohixo9650,

ublock does it too if you enable the “block annoyances” option in the settings

DJDarren,

Sadly, no ublock for me on Safari, but good to know!

ToxicWaste,

Don’t use stupid browsers then ;-)

ddkman,

Still a curveball. Collecting your data and having to say ot to your face are not the same.

harlatan,

that would be illegal too, because that information is not strictly necessary for their service - they could only opt to not provide the service in the eu

JasSmith,

I don’t agree. They can reasonably argue that advertising is a requirement of their business model, so it is necessary to advertise. Therefore it is necessary for them to block access to those blocking advertising. The directive cited isn’t intended to make advertiser supported services effectively illegal in the EU. That would be a massive own goal. It’s intended to make deceptive and unnecessary data collection illegal. Nothing YouTube is doing is deceptive. They’re being very clear about their intention to advertise to non-subscribers.

Sphks,
@Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

There are multiple French websites that do this. It is legal (otherwise these websites would not do this anymore, it’s been a while).
There is a popup asking you if you consent to get cookies (for advertisement). If you say “no”, it leads you to another popup with two choices :

  • Change your decision and accept cookies
  • Pay for a premium service without advertisements
Honytawk,

That is just because the people who enforce the EDPB guidelines just haven’t come around to fining those websites.

That practice is still illegal.

Want to speed up the process? You can report those websites. The more reports the faster those get punished.

Sphks,
@Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

No, that’s not that clear for the moment.

Let me explain the French case :

  • Webedia is a big company that owns most of the famous French websites (jeuxvideo.com , etc.). All these websites have cookie walls with an alternative : a paid subsription. What they say, is that the website is now accessible with subscription only. However, if you accept cookies, you’ll get a discount (free access).
  • The CNIL (a big French governemental entity) tried to forbid this. If someone reports a website, it’s for this entity to take action. There is no need to report Webedia, the CNIL knows already :-)
  • The Conseil d’Etat (juridical entity of the French gov) said that “non”, it’s OK for Webedia to use such paywalls. The CNIL can’t forbid Webedia to use them.
  • The CNIL asked the jusrists at the European level… here we are. We still don’t know.

Here is a French website where the CNIL explains this :
cnil.fr/…/cookie-walls-la-cnil-publie-des-premier…

harlatan,

Well, seems like my gdpr knowledge got too rusty. at least to me its an interesting topic to actualise

KLISHDFSDF,
@KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml avatar

A lot of the cookie notifications can’t collect data until you accept them (or follow their annoying “opt-out” workflow). If you install UBlock Origin and go to its settings > ‘Filter lists’ and enable the “EasyList - Cookie Notices” you can block a lot of cookies. If they can never nag you and you never opt in, assuming they’re following the law, you shouldn’t be tracked.

HawlSera,

Everyday I think the European Union for preventing the internet from being worse than it could be. It’s sad that back when the internet was a cesspool was so far the best age for it. Normies really do ruin everything

DudeDudenson,

It’s not the sheep’s fault they’re led to the meat grinder

mitrosus,

If a private company has to succeed, it has to offer things ** that normies want.** FB/G is shit because this is what normies consume - the ego-display, the dopamine kick. In every enshittification of a service, there is a history of it being cravingly indulged by the mass. Now when the companies started rising up and used their monopoly, they (the normies) are realizing they have been shit-eating for a long time. One may argue the companies were not so in the beginning, but that would be a very myopic view.

HawlSera,

Normally it wouldn’t be, but these sheep were told “Do not go to this farm or you will be cooked.” and responded with “Pffft, that’ll happen to the other guy…” or “Pfft you’re just whining because you expect everything just handed to you”

Rengoku,

The same EU that threaten E2EE?

matz_e,

The EU has its faults, too, like this BS about sacrificing encryption. Overall, there seem to be a lot of benefits reigning in big companies, though.

Who else is looking out for their citizens? I think some congresspeople in the US ask tough questions, but in the end, business just goes on as usual.

scubbo,

Yes, the same EU. The fact that it’s considering some poor choices doesn’t detract from the fact that it’s actions thus far have been positive and deserve appreciation. Real Life doesn’t split people neatly into heroes and villains.

TheBlue22,

“Normies”? Seriously?

Because “normies” are responsible for the entshitification of the Internet right?

jecxjo,
@jecxjo@midwest.social avatar

I’m all for personal freedoms but you’re getting a service you pay no money for and then get pissed that they are getting the money out of you another way. Sound like people being petty.

Rupussy,

It is a service, but you aren’t the consumer, you’re the product.

boyi,

It is a service, but you aren’t the consumer~~,~~ and you’re the product.

elouboub,
@elouboub@kbin.social avatar

While I kinda sympathise, I won't be filing a complaint. I want Youtube to become so shit that even the average user will start looking for alternatives. I want ads plastered everywhere on that site and adblockers to fail miserably at blocking them. I want the average user to be so bothered by the ads that when they stumble upon an alternative they try and convince people to switch. I want content creators to be so bothered by it that they make videos promoting the use of another service.

Make this a competition for alternatives. Don't make it easy for users to stay on Youtube.

Broodjefissa,

Ok Satan

AnonTwo,

So is this basically saying youtube isn't allowed to detect an adblocker?

I'm not sure I really follow why that specifically is something they're policing.

Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.ca avatar

It about device detection and privacy. Websites in the EU aren’t allowed to scan your hardware or software without your permission, to protect the users privacy. Adblockers fall under this.

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