JohnWorks,

After switching from an iPad to an Android tablet recently this is exactly what I was looking for

MonkderZweite,

Who tf calls his software “Molly”?

bruce965,
@bruce965@lemmy.ml avatar

Apologies, but why would one prefer the fork over the original? Aren’t they both FOSS anyways?

7heo,

No, the original depends on proprietary blobs. And so does molly, unless you use the FOSS version explicitly.

sugar_in_your_tea,

What do they use proprietary blobs for?

7heo, (edited )

AFAIK, Google Maps, Firebase Cloud Messaging, Authentication and (since v5.24.15) Wallet/Payments. Might be more.

bruce965,
@bruce965@lemmy.ml avatar

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Just installed the FOSS version, was greeted with a “you can encrypt your database with a passphrase” message, put a long password in both fields, and, well, app crashes. Not really trustworthy imo

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Shorter password and even just letters (yikes) doesn’t work either

sugar_in_your_tea,

So, encryption is just flat out broken then?

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

In my experience, yes. Can only speak for myself and my device though

nevial,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Okay, everyone, I installed the current update and the app no longer crashes 🥳 but now I don’t know how to import my Signal data from within the same phone (the local export/import doesn’t really work and doesn’t include messages)

andrzej85,

the two can co-exist as well… you can keep your Signal install on your primary device and you can install Molly on a tablet, and have it linked to your Signal app as a linked device. this way there’s no loss of data on your primary device

Jomn,
@Jomn@jlai.lu avatar

Oh that’s nice to know !

HughJanus,

I find it absolutely hilarious that deleting contacts is listed as a feature. Like why is that so hard for Signal to do?

UnfortunateShort,

Afaik they use your phones contacts. If you want to delete one, you need to delete the number from your phone.

HughJanus,

They import from your phone contacts but if you delete someone from your phone contacts, they stay in the app.

You also can’t delete group messages from the app.

HughJanus,

Does it support Stories?

backpackn,

The question everyone’s dying to know

smotherlove,

Yes

HughJanus,

Nice, thanks!

trash,
@trash@lemm.ee avatar

I completely forgot Signal added stories. People use that?

HughJanus,

Yeah it’s pretty much the only form of private social media there is.

keefshape,

Does it have sms/mms function?

cujo,
@cujo@sh.itjust.works avatar

It does not.

keefshape,

Dang.

SatyrSack,

No, but you still need to give them your phone number in order to sign up.

Jomn,
@Jomn@jlai.lu avatar

Can you simply use a signal backup to move to Molly ? And can you go easily back to Signal, if required in the future ?

penquin,

I want to know this, too. I have signal now, but don’t mind moving over if I simply didn’t lose anything.

merde,

you create a backup on signal and then restore from backup in molly. Nothing’s lost.

thejevans,

As long as the Molly version is greater than or equal to the Signal version, it will work. Molly updates usually trail behind signal updates, so you’ll have to either time it right or pause updates on you Signal app.

celmit,

also looks like few days ago Louis Rossmann made a substantial donation to Mollyim.

smotherlove,

Rossman’s embrace of FOSS is such an inspiration. Most people who claim to value freedom aren’t ready to put their money where their mouth is, let alone change their behavior at all.

sugar_in_your_tea,

Cool. I really respect his opinions, so I’ll definitely be giving this a look. I still need to get my wife on board though, since that’s what killed Signal for me last time I tried it (no point when the person I send the most sensitive info to doesn’t use it).

dauerstaender,

Is it interoperable with signal?

uninvitedguest,
@uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca avatar

I was curious, so I read the GitHub page:

Molly connects to the Signal server, so you can chat with your Signal contacts seamlessly. Please remember to review the Signal Terms & Privacy Policy before signing up.

dauerstaender,

Thanks!

eruchitanda, (edited )
@eruchitanda@lemmy.world avatar

Switched to Molly after this update.

How didn’t we have that until now.

AlecSadler,

How’s it working? I was going to switch over today solely for linked tablet support.

BobbyBandwidth,
@BobbyBandwidth@lemmy.world avatar

My name ain’t molly…

oneguynick,
@oneguynick@lemmy.world avatar

How long till they cut off access?

twistypencil,

You will likely need to update every two weeks or it will stop working

lol,
@lol@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

What do you base this assumption on? I wouldn’t expect there to be breaking protocol changes anywhere near that often, if at all. Also, if that were the case, any two weeks old version of the official client would stop working as well.

ubergeek77,
@ubergeek77@lemmy.ubergeek77.chat avatar

It’s not an assumption. The vanilla Signal app has code in it that disables itself after a certain period without updates. Unless they removed that from this app, then this will do the same thing.

twistypencil,

Not just updates, you need to periodically poll for messages as well, anyone who runs signal-cli runs into these issues

lol,
@lol@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Do you have a link to that code for Signal/Molly? First time I’m hearing of this and I’m pretty sure I’ve not updated Signal for more than two weeks in the past without any problems.

Trebach,

The second Signal works out that this exists.

HughJanus,

Why would they do that?

jmcs,

Their terms and services forbid third party clients for security reasons, and they have enforced it before. They have a bit of a point in that they can’t ensure that 3rd party applications aren’t spying on you, or more importantly other users you chat with, but that point is mooted when they refuse to document the risk of other apps, like your phone keyboard or “AI” assistant doing the same (which is already happening in some countries).

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