Your thoughts on The Orville?

When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

Gbagginsthe3rd,

It took me a few episodes. But now I think it’s entertaining and wholesome!

It’s my utopia of what humans could become in the future

Lucidlethargy,

Wait until you watch Star Trek!

In all seriousness, Star Trek does an amazing job at this. It’s a fully fleshed futuristic utopia. The many episodes and movies that go back in time are hilarious, as they show the dichotomy of future utopia and the “dark age” present in a great way.

Teknikal,

deleted_by_author

    •
    ThreeHalflings,

    Nothing against anyone, you just don’t want homosexual people to be portrayed on TV shows?

    Here’s some news, that’s something against someone.

    Teknikal,

    That’s not what I said they just used the same gay alien plot in way to many episodes I was bored of it.

    Ace0fBlades,

    “forced homosexuality” that episode where they put Seth McFarlane in a ball gag and made him fuck another dude was bizarre I’ll agree with you there. Really didn’t even have much to do with the vastness of space now that I think about it.

    Vorticity,

    I strongly disagree with you. There was one prominent homosexual couple on the show and that couple served as an important plot device to make commentary on our society. There were plenty of heterosexual (and even robosexual) relationships that we’re just as “in your face”.

    To me it always seemed nice to see a homosexual relationship placed on the same level as heterosexual relationships. I also thought it was a clever way to discuss homophobia through a lense of heterophobia and to discuss trans issues through a lense of forced transition.

    NeroAngra,

    I loved it. I thought the actors did a great job with some of the more sensitive content. It was pretty generic in general, but I didn’t mind that. I like shows that don’t take themselves too seriously.

    ArtificialLink,

    It was/is the best modern “star trek” thats coming out. Loved that you could see all the writers and seth were just huge trekies. The moral dilemma’s are almost always good. And the mostly episodic episodes are a huge bonus.

    FlexibleToast,

    I would agree with you, until Star Trek Strange New Worlds. That show is fantastic.

    ArtificialLink,

    Ive yet to watch it but ive heard good things.

    FlexibleToast,

    I was in the same boat as you until recently. I was burned so bad from Discovery and Picard I just couldn’t go through it again. I heard all the good things, but still I just couldn’t get around to it. I’m so glad I finally did. I know there is some recency bias but I think I would go so far as to say Captain Pike is my favorite Captain now…

    ArtificialLink,

    Damn it’s like you know me LMAO. I swear I will check it out soon.

    FlexibleToast,

    I bet it was common in the Trek community. I guess the positive side is you have two seasons to be able to binge when you finally get around to it.

    RojoSanIchiban,

    I find it to be very much the opposite, but infinite diversity in infinite combinations.

    thal3s,
    @thal3s@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Renewed for Season 3!

    FlexibleToast,

    It’s so good I didn’t even consider that not being a possibility. Glad to hear it though.

    kennocha,

    Along with Lower Decks as well. The crossover to Strange New Worlds was great.

    FlexibleToast,

    Lower Decks is fantastic, but it’s almost its own thing while still being a love letter to earlier Treks. It is obviously aimed at a different demographic while still being one of the best modern Treks. That crossover episode was almost all fan service, but there is nothing wrong with that every once and a while. It was a very fun episode. The end where the SNW cast was animated had me laughing, it was very well done.

    NightOwl,

    I haven’t caught up with the most recent season, but I really liked all adventures the crew went on. One thing I did remember wishing was for the show to drop the Ed and Kelly relationship subplot, since I liked the more friends and professional dynamic. And I miss Alara too, and wish she’d be part of the crew again.

    Weylandyuta,

    Alara comes back, but just not as a crew member.

    Custoslibera,

    Pretty sure Seth and the actress that played Alara (Halston Sage) dated IRL and broke up which is why I suspect she left the role.

    WhiteTiger,
    @WhiteTiger@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I believe she left for a movie career… that started with X-Men Dark Phoenix, which lost over $100 million at the box office.

    RoyalEngineering,

    I think that’s my least favorite part about the show is that awkward relationship.

    They should have written some other role for them.

    Lucidlethargy,

    I really disliked it. I thought it was a really poorly constructed clone of “Star Trek: The Next Generation”, and not a subtle one at that. The cut scenes, the sounds… It was all so incredibly “old” feeling.

    The relationship between the robot and the doctor was excruciatingly cringy. It was so insanely contrived, and I can’t conceive of why anyone tolerated it, let alone enjoyed it.

    This said, it’s not all bad. I enjoyed one or two episodes, I liked the comedy aspect, and I also enjoyed many of the CGI special effects.

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    Whatever you think of the show, it gave us one of, if not the most, epic CGI space battle. It was so damn long and intricate.

    Lucidlethargy,

    Which one? I either don’t recall, or I need to check that out! I’ve seen something like 80% of the entire series, if I recall correctly. I did admittedly skip a few of the episodes, though.

    NotMyOldRedditName,

    The main battle against the robots at earth, but one of the other ones as well was really good.

    The earth one was exceptionally long for a space cgi battle.

    rufus, (edited )

    Wow, i don’t know many people who dislike it. I think the TNG-clone feeling is deliberate. I think like science fiction holds up a mirror to our world… they chose to hold up another mirror and simultaneously copy The Next Generation. There is the doctor, a robot/android… you quickly catch many similarities… but further along things start to get skewed, sometimes your expectations get fulfilled or ruined and they play with the stereotypes. I think it’s kind of genius and often times gives it one or two additional layers of depth. Especially when they simultaneously discuss philosophical stuff and simultaneously play with TNG storytelling tropes. Like when they introduced people on the orville are vegan. and star trek still struggles with that today and people far in the future are super advanced, but randomly kill cows to eat them.

    I also think the relationship between the android and the doctor has a certain cringy-ness to it. We currently see AI slowly becoming reality. It is very up to date to discuss people having relationships with machines. But they somehow do it in a weird and strange way. And too dramatic. But remember, there’s also Wesley Crusher. And Captain Proton and some weird robots on Voyager’s holodeck.

    I don’t know why you associate that “old” feeling with something negative. It reminds me of good times, watching star trek series as a kid. And to this date i like those sounds more than the atmospheric sounds of recent Star Trek. And I also like the light and bright spaceships more than the recent tv shows that all happen at night and have dark and dimly lit sets. like Picard.

    ashok36,

    Like when they introduced people on the orville are vegan.

    Malloy’s line delivery in Season 3 when he confesses to killing and eating animals really goes a long way to show how far the ethical mores of future society have moved. He basically felt like a murderer because, to him at least, that’s exactly what he felt like. Contrast that against his prior characterization as the goofy, prankster guy and you get so much more depth of character from him.

    It’s like Marty McFly admitting to Doc Brown that he killed and ate Biff because the Doc left the two on a desert island and timey wimey weirdness meant he showed back up two months later than he expected. Heavy stuff.

    Blamemeta,

    Better Star Trek than actual Star Trek.

    hal_5700X, (edited )
    @hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

    Modern Star Trek, right?

    EDIT By “modern Star Trek” I mean every show from Discovery to Strange New Worlds.

    Blamemeta,

    Yup, you got it. Fucking nutrek. That shit tier writing belongs in star wars, not star trek.

    Custoslibera,

    Ahhhhh Lower Decks came out between those two shows release dates and it’s a great show.

    Yes I’ll die on that hill.

    sramder,

    I just rewatched it’s namesake episode of TNG… it’s dark.

    CarlsIII,

    It’s a good show and I like it.

    rufus, (edited )

    Best show ever. I almost peed myself when Ed Mercer tried to eat those stones in the admiral’s office in the first episode. Took me like 5minutes of the first episode to love it. And it has so many good episodes, etical dilemmas and thought provoking stories. And I like the Moclans. And i like the storytelling. Especially that most stories take one episode.

    neomis,

    One of my favorite moments was when they were trying to teach Isaac about pranks and he removed Malloy’s leg.

    RoyalEngineering,

    When Alara throws the leg over her shoulder 🤣

    Eldritch,

    The humor, humanizes it. TOS was great. But often a bit sterile and preachy. Still fascinating and a good watch. But nowhere near are relatable.

    A lot of people were concerned that it was gonna be family guy in space. With all the toilet humor that involves. But honesty it was all tasteful, generally witty. And mostly seemed to genuinely add to the episodes.

    WhiteTiger,
    @WhiteTiger@sh.itjust.works avatar

    But honesty it was all tasteful, generally witty. And mostly seemed to genuinely add to the episodes.

    Ehh, having one of the main characters quote a Destiny’s Child song in a scene set in the the year 2400, that aired in the year 2017 was pretty cringe.

    db2,

    It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times

    That’s Seth humor in a nutshell.

    Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough

    Name a show that started off any other way though. Even SG1 is cringe in the first season. Lexx maybe, but even that one grew different after the first few episodes.

    Izzy, (edited )
    @Izzy@lemmy.world avatar

    Good points. I’m was just unsure whether that was actually the case and I got used to it or it actually improved.

    xNIBx,

    I liked it, it is pretty star trek the next generation(which i love) though sometimes it gets really up its own ass. I like more philosophical/ethical subject episodes than constant interpersonal relationship episodes.

    Norgur,

    I didn't think the Star Trek formula would work with silly jokes instead of everyone taking themselves super seriously.
    I was wrong.
    Love it, way better than Spores-are-actually-the-Force-now-all-of-a-sudden-Space-Jesus

    Klanky,
    @Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Microwave reheated Star Trek. I feel like it started out being too humorous, hit the perfect balance, and then veered into trying too hard to be Star Trek. If your Star Trek parody isn’t a parody anymore I’ll just…watch actual Star Trek. Lower Decks filled the Star Trek comedy hole much better.

    piskertariot,

    When Orville was brand new, Star Trek Discovery was the only other option. And Orville was amazing by comparison.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
    @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

    The Orville is absolutely more Trek than Discovery ever was

    Disgustoid,

    A-freaking-men. Orville held down the camp while Discovery was busy doing whatever it was trying to do, spitting out endless melodrama, crises, and crying. I definitely enjoyed some Orville episodes but the show as a whole just felt like a pale imitation of Star Trek. No doubt MacFarlane can write/produce a good Trek-style episode but I’m not convinced he can run a whole Star Trek show.

    I love SNW and Lower Decks. Between those shows and Prodigy (which goes weirdly dark at times for a show aimed at kids), I won’t miss Orville if the third season was its final one.

    GuyFleegman, (edited )
    @GuyFleegman@startrek.website avatar

    Bingo. It was kinda cute at first when it was still trying to be funny, but as the parody pretense slowly fell away it just got boring.

    The strangest part about it is how each episode is a remix of a Trek episode and yet the remix makes it very clear that the writers just don’t get it. For example, season 2’s “Blood of Patriots” is a rearrangement of “The Wounded,” but the subplot about Mercer and Malloy being best friends forever trivializes what TNG successfully depicted as a nuanced dilemma.

    There’s no accounting for taste, but it genuinely surprises me that there seems to be so many Star Trek fans who think it’s any good. On the other hand, it seems pretty safe to say that season 3 was the last, so clearly the actual numbers were unremarkable.

    EmperorGormet,

    I loved the jar of pickles joke. It somehow got me every time. Then they seemed to just drop it out of nowhere. Well I guess once she left, but still.

    SpeedLimit55,

    I thought it would be a parody show at first but its good casual sci-fi entertainment. I liked the first two seasons better than S3.

    freamon,

    I’ve never seen it, but in that poster, Seth is one of the few actors who looks like he’s got his head on correctly. Greenie on the left looks like her head might actually fall off. (I’d probably watch it if that was one of the plots)

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • •
  • random
  • uselessserver093
  • Food
  • aaaaaaacccccccce
  • test
  • [email protected]
  • CafeMeta
  • testmag
  • MUD
  • RhythmGameZone
  • RSS
  • dabs
  • TheResearchGuardian
  • Ask_kbincafe
  • KbinCafe
  • Testmaggi
  • feritale
  • Socialism
  • oklahoma
  • SuperSentai
  • KamenRider
  • All magazines
    •