Your thoughts on The Orville?

When I first started this show I found it to be a really awkward mix of comedy and seriousness. It had some jokes thrown it at the most inopportune times as some kind of comic relief from a really serious situation. Perhaps the first half of the first season was actually a bit rough or maybe the show just grew on me, but by season 2 I found myself loving this show.

To me it seems as every bit as comfy, intellectually interesting and even funny as some classic Star Treks while still clearly being its own thing. I wish more comfy space shows like this would get made.

What are your thoughts on The Orville? Also I miss Alara.

CaptPretentious,

For me after DS9, The Orville is (to me) the next canonical Start Trek series. Everything after is, from what I’ve seen is trash that exploits the name for an established fan base. Now I haven’t seen everything, but like, how many times do you need to be kicked in the nuts to know that you don’t like getting kicked in the nuts and you just stop!

I loved, FUCKING LOVED, TNG. Honestly, that show shaped a lot of who I am, especially since I didn’t have a good father figure growing up.

The Orville isn’t perfect. Seth for better or for worse tries some jokes and some of them really don’t land. But to his credit he tries. And it felt like as the show went on it got more refined in what it wanted to be.

The people who are in charge of modern Star Trek can shove it up their ass. You can’t tell me a single one of them ever sat down and ever actually watched Star Trek. TOS, TNG, VOY, and DS9 I’m here for it all. Everything after, Jesus Christ, just awful. I’d rather watch Dr Crusher get it on with a ghost repeatedly than sit and watch modern Star Trek.

But the Oroville like a breath of fresh air.

Akip,

did you try stange new worlds?

CaptPretentious,

No. Isn’t that a spin off of Discovery? I survived the ride that was Enterprise, but Discovery said as the first time I noped the fuck out.

I did a quick look via Google, the uniforms look very TOS to me, is it good? Or is it just that much more of terrible writing and 0 acknowledgement of any established stories and lore or just generally Gene’s vision for what Start Trek as a concept was.

Akip,

I think season2 of Strange new worlds might be my favorite star trek season. Its focusing more on inter crew relationships again instead of useless power creep like discovery did. The crew feels like a family again like it did in TNG and Voyager, while also leaving you with a new concept each episode something for your brain to digest, something you hadn’t seen yet. I think they succeeded in the balancing act something new while infused with the original essence of star trek.

Rootiest,
@Rootiest@lemmy.world avatar

It filled a hole when there was no good classic star trek being made.

Now we have Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks so there a bit more variety/competition in the arena

NuPNuA,

When Orville started and all we had was Discovery I’d agree, but Trek has pulled itself together of late with Pic S3, Strange New Worlds and Prodigy. The last few episodes of SNW have been amazing.

CaptPretentious,

I might check out Strange New World, seems to get mentioned a few times.

But you ain’t getting me to watch Picard, lol. A show that very clearly should have been a direct continuation of TNG… Unless season 3 is Picard waking up in his quarters and everything that happened before (in Star Trek: Picard) was just a terribly written nightmare… From perhaps drinking to much… Uh… Well it was green.

Nacktmull,

The people who are in charge of modern Star Trek can shove it up their ass

I support that initiative!

TWeaK,

Modern Trek does have a few gems. Lower Decks is fun, Prodigy was nice (and will hopefully still get its next season soon) and Strange New Worlds has been pretty close to proper old Trek.

Blastasaurus,

I tried to get into it but ultimately it was too campy and borderline cringey (Norm’s terribly animated and written blob character) for me.

TheObserver,

I loved it. Reminded me of my beloved farscape

TheLadyAugust,

I haven’t seen a single muppet in The Orville. 3/10^ /s

TitanLaGrange,

Oh man, The Orville would be a perfect series to do some kind of Farscape spoof episode. They need to visit a planet with a bunch of muppets where everybody speaks with an Austrailian accent, except for one guy played by Ben Browder.

Furbag,

The Orville is to Star Trek as Spaceballs was to Star Wars. A humorous parody, but I can appreciate the effort that they put in to have the show take itself a bit more seriously during dramatic scenes. I enjoyed it, although I only saw two seasons.

Lanthanae,
@Lanthanae@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I don’t agree with this assessment. The Orville is only a Star Trek parody for the first two episodes, after that it feels more accurate to me to call it an homage.

Cringe2793,

I thought it was a parody at first, and it certainly treated itself as such in the beginning, but in the later seasons, it took itself more seriously, and I found it a more “realistic” take than star trek.

Star trek is awesome, don’t get me wrong. But the captains were kind of “perfect”, basically. Captain Mercer and his crew are all flawed people, in their own way. They make poor decisions sometimes, out of selfishness, pride, or whatever, and it’s fun to see them deal with the consequences.

Nacktmull,

Interesting. I always thought “perfect” characters like Jean Luc Picard where supposed to symbolize the advanced social evolution of humanity in the Star Trek universe. The inherent believe in evolutionary humanism is one of the main reasons I fell in love with Star Trek.

InverseParallax,

It’s why I love snw’s current pilot, I think starfleet is very racist, she might be the only actual human being accepted into starfleet, well, her and pike of course, and maybe the current immortal engineer.

Apeman42,
@Apeman42@lemmy.world avatar

It counts as Star Trek in my personal canon. Really hope season 4 happens.

Nacktmull,

Agreed, The Orville is more Star Trek than DIS and PIC combined.

jantin,

I watched the first 2 seasons. The “sitcom in space” parts work quite OK, Kaylon’s concept was somewhat interesting, space battles are well animated, particularly in the 2nd season which clearly got more budget, but…

Whenever the scripts stray away from “personal drama of the week” and dumb jokes about starships it becomes uninspired and shallow. It’s clear to me that MacFarlane tries to “dunk on both sides”. Sadly, his attempts at political/social critique look like “enlightened centrist” reddit rants which don’t try to think about broader consequences and context of points being made. To the point of some stories being somewhat problematic when dissected.

I watched the first episode of the third season to see where does the series go. It took a highly sensitive topic, again reiterated high-school philosophy arguments and made this potentially hard and relatable for viewers subject into an awkward bedtime conversation. I decided the rest of the season is not worth my time.

Luckily Strange New Worlds premiered soon after and I never looked back. SNW beats Orville on all measures.

Nacktmull,

As someone who disliked the comedy part, I enjoyed the last season the most.

aram,
@aram@aoir.social avatar

@Izzy true fact: Seth McFarlane developed the show after his friend and collaborator Ahmed Best (of Star Wars) pitched him the idea of a comedic Star Trek clone. It was called "The Nebula." I know because I was personally pitching the sizzle reel for the pilot to branded entertainment clients in 2009.

masterairmagic,

We owe the Orville to JarJar Binks?

aram,
@aram@aoir.social avatar

@masterairmagic in a word, yes.

grue,

“Jar Jar is the key to all this.”

masterairmagic,

I really liked Orville’s first season. Each successive season wasn’t as good as the previous ones. Still, it’s much better than most other things out there.

Nacktmull,

Funny, I felt the show was improving - especially because they toned down the immature Mc Farlane style comedy that was gimping immersion with every dumb joke.

masterairmagic,

I liked how they did not take is seriously in the first few seasons. They decided to take it more seriously in season 2 and 3, which reduced rhe quality for me.

Nacktmull,

Tastes are different. I don´t share but respect your point of view.

haywire7,
@haywire7@lemmy.world avatar

I love it, the gags and semi-coherent plot in the first season pulled me in and I was hooked after that. I understand Seth’s humour can put some people off, that’s fine too but I think the show is strong enough and has matured enough to stand side by side with modern Trek and hold its own.

TTimo,

I still remember the bit where they had given a small piece of the blobby alien to that other one with the iron stomach. Gold.

circuitfarmer,
@circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It felt way more like Star Trek than the Star Trek being made at the time (primarily Discovery). Though I do like Strange New Worlds and think it’s more in the right direction, The Orville still feels way more like TNG-era Trek.

Now we just need a Galaxy Quest / Orville crossover to really confuse everyone.

grue,

Now we just need a Galaxy Quest / Orville crossover to really confuse everyone.

Sokath, his eyes uncovered!

InverseParallax,

The river in winter and temba his arms wide my money!

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I loved it and it’s definitely on the list of shows that I’ll rewatch sometime sooner or later

Nacktmull,

I generally dislike the typial Mc Farlane type of comedy and I don´t think it fit´s particularly well in a Star Trek like show. Beside that, The Orville is a really good show, way better than Nu Trek (with the exception of SNW). When watching The Orville I feel like I can tell that the people who made it actually like and even respect classic Star Trek - which is the opposite of how I felt when trying to watch DIS and PIC.

turtlepower,

I seriously feel SNW was Star Trek seeing how much people loved what the Orville did and doing it themselves.

Nacktmull,

I seriously feel SNW was Star Trek seeing how much people loved what the Orville classic Star Trek did and doing it themselves.

FTFY

bearclaw191991,
@bearclaw191991@lemmy.world avatar

It is the best Star trek show on right now even though it is not Star trek. Loved it. It reminds me of Firefly

TWeaK,

on right now

It’s kind of in (potentially permanent) limbo now though. Which is also like Firefly.

Draegur,

i dunno man, firefly was kinda deliberately and clearly murdered >_> they released a movie that killed people off and shit

FinalRemix,

Well, the show was murdered, too. Fox refused to air episode in order and kept moving the time slot.

bearclaw191991,
@bearclaw191991@lemmy.world avatar

That was tragic 😭

Dangeresque,

Strange new worlds is better

RedditRefugeeTom,

Absolutely LOVE it. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve watched the series and I am currently on another go thru of it. It’s definitely a joke in the beginning and some jokes miss, but I love how they get into some good topics halfway through.

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