You can and you should contribute - Open Street Map

Today I found out that it’s actually a lot easier to contribute to Open Street Map than I thought. There are some serious gaps in house addresses in my area and I was painstakingly using the built in browser editor in the browser.

But, you can use a FOSS app (available on fdroid) called StreetComplete that makes it a lot easier to help out filling in the gaps in your local map data.

It’s really fun - kind of like Pokémon Go but you are actually making an impact 😁

Bartem,

I’m still missing this on iOS, we do have “go map!!” Which is great, but that’s a bit of a different kind of app for me.

PupBiru,
@PupBiru@kbin.social avatar

i use Every Door on ios… its UI is hideous, but very functional

in still pretty new to it all though so it might not be great… better than go map for edits though

sixfold,
@sixfold@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Go map keeps crashing for me, does it for you?

Shaul,

It seems like a very helpful service. I don’t use cell data which means no GPS to contribute to it. I only use apps through wi-fi exclusively.

oo1,

does it need cell-data? why? that surprises me; but then again maybe not . . .

dXq9dwg4zt,

It does not.

twistypencil,

Nope, doesn’t need cell data

sixfold,
@sixfold@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Pretty sure you can download the maps ahead of time, GPS doesn’t require data, then upload the fixes when you get home.

twistypencil,

This is what I do, works great

Schlemmy,

I’m addicted to Streetcomplete. I’m 20.000+ edits in. I make about 100 with ease on my commute to work.

moreeni,

You are a hero

merde,

once you complete every quest on your commute, what do you do?

parallel streets ✅

and then?

Nouveau_Burnswick,

Not parallel streets.

merde,

that turns the commute into a promenade

Schlemmy,

That’s exactly what happened. Fortunately I have 4 different offices and I can work from ‘home’ anywhere so sometimes I go work at a friend’s place instead of working at my place.

CjkOvPDwQw,
@CjkOvPDwQw@lemmygrad.ml avatar

You change your job to another location :)

Schlemmy,

There’s always more to tag. It’s crazy. But I started talking walks during my break.

One thing that I haven’t got to is tagging street width and that you can do by using your phones’ camera for measuring.

apt.izzysoft.de/…/de.westnordost.streetmeasure

merde, (edited )

In order to use this app, you will need to have the proprietary Google Play Services for AR app installed on your device as well.

🤐

edit: this is for StreetMeasure

Schlemmy,

_What are the system requirements of this app?

StreetComplete requires Android 5.0, and a screen size of at least 4.3" is recommend. Apart from that, any reasonably modern phone (at least 2GB RAM, around 500MB of free space) should support it. It doesn’t require Google Play Services_

Edit: You were aiming at Streetcomplete, I see now. This is in their FAQ:

According to our tests, it does work without Google Play Services being installed, but, as said before, the device needs to be compatible.

wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/StreetComplete/FAQ

merde,

i’m using streetComplete without google. It’s streetMeasure that requires Google Play Sevices

Schlemmy,

Apparently, per their own FAQ, it is possible to use it without Google Play Services.

Schlemmy,

_What are the system requirements of this app?

StreetComplete requires Android 5.0, and a screen size of at least 4.3" is recommend. Apart from that, any reasonably modern phone (at least 2GB RAM, around 500MB of free space) should support it. It doesn’t require Google Play Services_

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

It needs an iOS app

nexussapphire,

iOS apps generally require a $100 yearly fee to post to the app store and if they submitted a waiver as a nonprofit apple would probably take years to accept it.

Also apple has a tendency to quietly kill and/or stall small apps that pose a threat to features they incorporate into their os from what I’ve heard.

lukecooperatus,

Ugh yeah the small 4-person worker cooperative I’m part of has been trying to get Apple to let us enroll in their developer program for literally weeks now. Every time we clear some other nonsense requirement, there’s a new one right behind it; and we haven’t even gotten to the “pay $100 for the privilege of undergoing this process” part yet.

I can’t believe Apple ever managed to build an application ecosystem around their products when they are so unfriendly to developers.

Rexios,

What? If you’re going to pay for it you just sign up and pay… If you don’t have your company registered before attempting that that’s on you. And if you’re really desperate you could just use a personal developer account which you can set up in like 1 minute. Not sure how this is an issue for you.

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

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2xsaiko,
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Check out Go Map!!, it’s also open source and has a similar feature to StreetComplete with its quests, at least from what I’ve heard about how StreetComplete works.

jabberati,
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@gonzoknowsdotcom1 @Schlemmy Maybe not as much fun as StreetComplete, but checkout the Every Door app: https://every-door.app/

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

vote and comment here github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/…/5230

caos,

@gonzoknowsdotcom1 This app doesn't seem quite as entertaining as , but it is also available for :
" editor for POIs and entrances."
every-door.app/
Furthermore, it is also very easy to edit data with : organicmaps.app/de/
@Schlemmy

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

agreed

flip0xfff,
@flip0xfff@mastodon.social avatar

@caos @Schlemmy @gonzoknowsdotcom1 #EveryDoor is great, I use it alongside #StreetComplete as it has more attributes that can be set. First StreetComplete until no tasks are left, then EveryDoor for more details.

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

I installed it. Judging by the mass of blank info, I guess I’m the only person around here using it lol. 😳

joeldebruijn,

I became nr 10 or so in my country just by adding nearly everything SC can ask in … a 10 block radius around my house.😁

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.one avatar

I am never getting lost in my own neighborhood again!! (Me irl)

kambusha,

Cool! Never seen this before. Just downloaded and signed up.

JackGreenEarth,

Is there an open street map based map app that shows live traffic? I’m trying to get my grandfather to switch to open source, and he says it’s the one feature he needs.

Schlemmy,

MagicEarth has got a live traffic layer for you.

gonzoknowsdotcom1,

Magic earth is great

thehellrocc,

Unfortunately, it’s not open source though.

Schlemmy,

Indeed it isn’t. But is privacy focused and sort of the best next thing.

thehellrocc, (edited )

Yeah, I was just pointing it out for transparency, as this is the OSS community. Still a noteworthy app, though.

nawordar,

If it is free as in beer, but not as in freedom, and is developed by a company, then what is their business model?

Schlemmy,

This is what they’ve put on their FAQ

Magic Earth is free for all our end-users but we also have a paid Magic Earth SDK for business partners. For instance Selectric.de (a supplier for navigation solutions for ambulances and fire trucks), Smarter AI (developing ADAS systems) or Absolute Cycling (using the platform on bicycles). For more info on the SDK, you can check magiclane.com.

nawordar,

That explains it, thanks

thejevans, (edited )

No, unfortunately not. Getting traffic data would mean users volunteering to share location data, would need a centralized system to process everything, and would need a critical mass of users sharing said data to be anywhere near useful. The other possibility would be to pay for data from a provider like Google under an enterprise license that doesn’t require sharing data back, but I don’t know if that is even an option.

For now, I use both on my phone. I use OSM when biking or walking, I use Google Maps when driving, and I use my local transit web app when taking transit. I plan to switch my Pixel phone to GrapheneOS and to sandbox Google services that I still need. That being said, the ultimate way around needing traffic information is to try to live in places and in such a way that driving is not very necessary, but I know that is a huge ask for a lot of people.

EDIT: To be clear, MagicEarth does have live traffic as @Schlemmy pointed out and is based on OSM, but is not itself open source.

sixfold,
@sixfold@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

time for some kind of anonymizing location data sharing service, peer to peer or federated protocol? that might be interesting, or sketchy, not sure which.

cumberboi,

There is OpenTraffic but it seems unfinished and not implemented anywhere as far as i can tell. Edit: just to clarify, ive only heard from others that it’s unfinished, havent checked myself :)

sixfold,
@sixfold@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s a super interesting project. For anyone else, the project overview has some great system level diagrams:

github.com/opentraffic/otv2-platform

https://lemmy.sdf.org/pictrs/image/41825fe5-bbc2-4b5e-ab2a-8592de0cfb59.png

CoachDom,
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It looks really interesting - but unfortunately it seems it’s abandoned? Last time it was updated was 7 years ago…

notExactlyI20, (edited )
@notExactlyI20@lemmy.world avatar

OSMand has a feature where it can process other info as tiles on top of the base openstreetmap data it downloads, so what I did was pulling satellite and live traffic data from google and make them work as tiles and it works perfect (although it doesnt take traffic data into consideration when routing, it only shows it as a picture on top of the map, doesn’t bother me).

JackGreenEarth,

I use Organic maps, and it’s easy to add and edit places with.

Schlemmy,

MapComplete is more about tagging.

Extrasvhx9he,

Do you need an account?

JackGreenEarth,

As far as I am aware, yes.

klintelmeh,

yes, afaik

Schlemmy,

A OSM account, yes. You can join with OpenID if you want.

selokichtli,

To contribute changes, yes. You still can share information as an anonymous user with OSM Notes, but then you need to be clear and a bit exhaustive. You can add a note that says “7-eleven” and a mapper can easily add it later, but for a restaurant called “The Coast”, for example, you need to explicitly write in the note that it is a restaurant serving seafood, details of the address and opening hours would be great too.

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