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My neighbors are going for 2 weeks in a week. They’ve been planning for more than a year. This will be their last chance to go as a family of 4. I can’t see them canceling.
Visiting a burning, inhospitable hellscape where people are actively dying and the rest are having their entire lives destroyed, and doing it for fun because “well, we’ve been planning it for a while, and want to go somewhere as a family and can’t come up with anything else exotic enough for our standards on short notice” is incredibly trashy and selfish.
They sound like shitty people, honestly, and I hope they have an awful time.
Talking of ‘having their whole lives destroyed’ - presumably the people actually working in and running the hotels want them there - or else they would be closed
I genuinely don’t care. Using the location of ongoing mass human sufferring as a tourist destination is disgusting and entirely indefensible. “I couldn’t get a refund” is not a valid excuse.
I’m not rich at all. I’ll never be able to afford to retire, much less drop everything to go to fucking Hawaii on vacation. I’m just not a shitty person with no empathy.
We were planning to go in a month and we’re trying to cancel. Virtually none of the companies were willing to offer a refund (including a luau in Lahaina)
Once the fire started threatening kaanapali our hotel & such has started to offer refunds with an understandably long wait time.
We just switched islands, but we’re pretty privileged to afford to buy a whole different vacation while waiting on refunds.
Damn. I am on the same boat and planning to try and get refunds this week. The resort already offered a credit for up to 2 years but I don’t want a credit, just a refund. How is it going for you?
That’s what we were told too. We made a post on Facebook tagging them and what their protocol was, and they reached out and changed their mind.
Who knows when I’ll get the money back though.
We booked Kauai and we’re really excited. Definitely cost a couple grand extra for the trip, and we’re owed about 4K in refunds. My heart goes out to those that can’t simply fork out that kinda cash.
Also if you paid for the hotel with a credit card, most cards offer free travel insurance. You can file a claim there and get a refund.
Oh yeah I bet their economy can handle no tourism when it needs money the most. This is really bad for them. They need to encourage tourism but what is there left?
This is happening in the wealthiest nation in human history. The government has an unquestionable obligation to provide relief for these people. Suggesting that keeping the victims of this disaster in the area and going to work while their homes are still burning is an acceptable answer is revolting. Fuck this disgusting “but what about the economy” attitude.
We went to the big island during an eruption in 2018. I didn’t want to go but my family wouldn’t cancel. The air was full of vog. It was gross and everyone in our group was cranky. I’m sure your neighbor will not get the trip they planned for.
If we forced airlines to honor rescheduling for not a huge cost then this wouldn't be as much of an issue. But I imagine those thousands in ticket prices can't really be burned without canceling the trip for the foreseeable future.
Nows the time for them to use that travel insurance and get a full refund. They may be putting themselves in danger and, regardless, they will be vacationing where people are actively suffering.
Which is why I'm blocking OP now. I won't be having any Nazi propagandists posting on my feed if I can help it. Fuck Republicans. Fuck Fox News. Fuck em now, fuck em tomorrow, fuck em all, forever.
I know this is more “celebrity” than news, but I’d seen discussions on whether it was better to visit (as a misguided attempt to help via tourism dollars) or stay away.
Yeah, every touristy place hates tourists. Who wouldn’t? They’re noisy, they crowd the beaches and sights and restaurants. Everybody hates tourists…until they stop showing up. It turns out that tourist dollars are pretty intimately connected with tourists.
If you'd actually bothered reading any of those, you would have realise that that wasn't actually true (almost none of the money actually goes to the natives and nor do many of the jobs), but sure, keep your head in the sand, I hear it's cosy, just like the fantasy that you know better than the people actually living there.
Tourist money doesn’t go into a hotel employee’s pocket and just sit there forever. Employees involved in the tourist industry buy food, clothing, and entertainment, and hire plumbers and painters and construction workers, and pay taxes, which in turn fund schools and roads and emergency services (like, say, firefighters).
You can’t get rid of tourism and the 25% of GDP it represents, and just go on with the same quality of life.
But I mean, if Hawaiian want to stop tourism, they should vote to stop tourism. There’s nothing stopping them from banning hotels or whatever.
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