kitonthenet,

Thank god someone is saying it, it’s the same mistake they made with trump

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Even this morning, I saw a headline, “Musk Might Have to Have Surgery.” And not from a tabloid. You really believe that, media? Right after the cage match was back on? And he never mentioned it before? Fucking credulous people.

traveler01,

He baits the press and they always byte it. Guy doesn’t really need to spend much on marketing for his products since due to the fact the press (even Lemmy) hate him, he always get free marketing.

Look at the bright X sign. He put it there, they forced him to remove it, a fine was paid of about $4k. During that time the press wouldn’t shut up about the sign. We’re speaking about Reuters level media giving him free marketing. Even Lemmy didn’t shut up about it. He got millions of dollars in free marketing with the stunt, and this is just one example.

I’m guessing he purposely is fucking up things to show on media, he made a rebrand from Twitter to X without spending a dime on marketing.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I know there is the old adage of all publicity is good publicity, but he’s only getting negative publicity right now and it appears to not be helping him, especially not on Twitter, which is still hemorrhaging users and advertisers. Tesla’s stock is down and their CFO just quit. Neuralink is getting investigated by the feds. And now he wants to look like an idiot by getting into a cage match with a BJJ blackbelt who’s much younger and fitter than him.

I don’t see a downside to playing all that up. He has more money than he will ever be able to spend. The only way to hurt him is to humiliate him.

traveler01,

which is still hemorrhaging users and advertisers

According to him and some other data I found that’s not true. Advertisers got a bit spooked, but they’re now coming back. Apple TV even released a full episode on Twitter in order to advertise a new show.

Tesla’s stock is down and their CFO just quit

Don’t see any relation to the matter, people quit and change jobs all the time.

Neuralink is getting investigated by the feds Good.

BJJ blackbelt who’s much younger and fitter than him

You mean Mark Zuckerberg?

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. Mark Zuckerberg is pretty damn fit, surprisingly. He is a BJJ black belt and has won a bunch of tournaments.

As for Twitter and its advertisers, I have no idea what sort of site that is or what credibility it has, but I’d say a lot less credibility than the BBC. www.bbc.com/news/business-66217641

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Can we cover him in cheese wheels like that poor Italian man?

Synthead,

This isn’t news. This is an opinion.

quicksand,

Right but it’s relevant to how news is portrayed and what kind of content we think should be posted here. I think it’s a great post to spark that discussion

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Always, without fail, it is someone who has never posted a single news article that pops in to insist something isn’t “news.”

Post something you consider news, then.

GunnarRunnar, (edited )

If a person complaints about noice noise are you going to tell them to make more noice noise? Makes no sense.

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

Do you mean “noise”?

GunnarRunnar,

No, I'm talking about the swedish punk rock band.

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

That explains it.

GunnarRunnar,

Well thanks for acknowledging the actual point I was making instead of diving into pedantry (that you accused that person doing themselves).

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes they did, but be noice about it.

Synthead,
stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

They only “response” to their “It’s not news” according to this would be “nuh uh!”, which is less than helpful.

I say to post what they consider need instead because that adds more content to the site, instead of just adding pedantry.

ObviouslyNotBanana,
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

It is, factually, an opinion piece and not a news article.

kitonthenet,

Treating commentary (and analysis) on news as separate and apart from news is how we got the coverage of musk we get.

Iwasondigg,

The media will cover him differently once Tesla full autopilot becomes available in about a year.

Poggervania,
@Poggervania@kbin.social avatar

Ideally, we’d stop caring about people because of the sole fact they have a lot of money.

Unfortunately, that’s gonna exclude a lot of money modern-day “journalism” probably relies on.

GunnarRunnar,

Well no, he actually is the public face for a few companies. He's not just a rich dude.

But yeah the current coverage is teetering on celebrity gossip but then again his public antics can influence a bunch of companies.

_bug0ut,
@_bug0ut@lemmy.world avatar

I think in a lot of cases, it’s less about them having a lot of money and more about how they’re able to effect change using that money or the power/influence associated with that money. Unfortunately, this can often happen at a relatively large scale, like by upending a popular social media platform or disrupting the automobile industry (for good or ill) or discussing futuristic public transportation ideas to take the wind out of the sails of more realistic/attainable projects and efforts.

All things considered, I wouldn’t mind hearing less about these people - a lot less. We’re well into mud slinging territory and some of these dickheads absolutely thrive on that. I’m sure the worst of them feel egged on when the media talks about them so they say or do more crazy shit very publicly to draw attention from fanboys and detractors alike. Call it a vicious cycle… or a hyperloop or something.

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

I decided to stopped posting things about him after he made that laughable announcement that he’d pay the legal bills of anyone fired because of their tweets. He did it purely for attention, and I realized I don’t want to help give it to him anymore.

I made an exception for this article because it’s not about him, but about how writers can’t just keep uncritically covering every stupid thing he says.

_bug0ut,
@_bug0ut@lemmy.world avatar

fair enough and fwiw, that’s what i was kind of echoing. “we’re” in mud slinging territory as a culture, but journalists/opinion-piece-writers/whatever are massive drivers of it.

DessertStorms,
@DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

Ideally, we’d stop caring about people because of the sole fact they have a lot of money.

Well currently, we need to focus on them, but specifically on the exploitation that was required for them to make that money, and on the damage them hoarding so much of it does to the rest of us.

Then ideally we finally turn on them en masse and abolish the system that not only enables, but thrives on, and even requires inequality and resource disparity to exist. At that point we no longer have to worry about the disgusting and harmful worship of the super wealthy because there will be no super wealthy. Instead everyone will have their needs met.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Oh, you mean the media should stop polarizing him as either a Tony-Stark-like genius savior of humanity while ignoring his numerous failures, or a brain-dead embodiment of evil who can never succeed at anything while ignoring his numerous successes?

You mean he probably lies somewhere in the middle of those two extremes, right? Certainly you wouldn’t just be criticizing one portrayal without recognizing how equally pathetic the other is? I mean, if you did that, it would be blatantly showing your hand that you’re not trying to clear up lame propaganda, you’re just contributing a different flavor.

Alto,
@Alto@kbin.social avatar

Could you list any of those successes that are actually his

IHeartBadCode,
@IHeartBadCode@kbin.social avatar

Would SpaceX not count in that? I get that he, himself is not the guy who made the rocket, but without his money that first rocket and the COTS program would have never existed.

parrot-party,
@parrot-party@kbin.social avatar

His only successes with SpaceX and Tesla are buying startups and then pumping them full of cash whilst adding aggressive goals. It's really the various teams that were successful, not Musk. If you want to credit his success, that would be betting the farm on some decently cutting edge startups and then proceeding to win those bets investment-wise.

btaf45,

Any journalist who says anything at all about Musk fighting Zuckerberg should be fired for malpractice. I don’t want to hear anything ever about Musk’s infantile cries for attention.

Pons_Aelius,
calabast,

I know this won’t happen, but I really wish we could just all stop talking about him all together.

Encode1307,

It’s a mixed blessing that he won’t stfu. Before he had a megaphone, everyone thought he was Tony Stark. Now almost everyone thinks he’s a fucking dork. While he still has his bootlickers, there are a lot less now.

nerdschleife,

Hey, dorks are nice people

Encode1307,

Dorks are, but “fucking dorks” are not

dwan,

I also wish that. I hate that all of his stupid controversies are actually just make him more “famous”. He’s the ultimate online troll that grew stronger every time we talked about him regardless if it’s bad or worse.

Diplomjodler,

To a narcissist there’s no such thing as negative attention. All attention is good.

dethb0y,

or we could expect journalists to focus on stories that matter instead of this celebrity gossip crap?

DocMcStuffin,
@DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world avatar

Oh we could expect that but celebrity gossip crap is easy to churn out, and it brings in the clicks. Then they get to cover the response to the gossip crap for even more clicks. It’s a never ending tower of crap because crap sells and too people can’t be bothered to exercise some news media intelligence.

Personally, I try to steer clear of the gossip and stick with publications that aren’t doing the click bait headline and provide quality coverage.

Diplomjodler,

Pretty much all journalism is nothing but clickbait these days. Musk is a prime source of that so he gets covered. And he knows that, of course, which is why he’s doing what he’s doing. Asking journalists to stop covering this sort of thing is like asking pigs to stop wallowing in shit

elbarto777,

All of it? Not true.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I suppose there is an argument to be made that much of it is celebrity gossip, but there is also, I think, value in covering what the richest man in the world is doing to an extremely popular social media platform. Especially when it has been such a help to governments and the media itself in the past.

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