STRIKINGdebate2,
@STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world avatar

I have decided to close this comment section due to ops toxic behaviour. Honestly, I should of intervened much sooner

krondo,

Uga uga i dont know anything to do with computers but linux good windows bad give me upvote now uga.

Pantsofmagic,

The one folder where this is really painful is the WindowsApps for Windows store stuff. I had one situation where I reinstalled Windows and I had a couple of hundred gigs of games in a WindowsApps folder. The new install wouldn’t use the folder, so it became wasted space. The new install also wouldn’t let me delete / reclaim the directory no matter how much dicking around with permissions I did. I think I had to kill it from either Linux or a USB Windows installer command prompt.

Redex68,

Yeah, I don’t agree with the post, I think for an OS like Windows, which is used by a lot of non-techy people, things like OP’s post should be the norm, you shouldn’t be able to brick your sistem easily.

But I feel your pain for windows apps, they’re such fucking cancer. I had the same problem when I tried to uninstall Sea of Thieves because the installer / Microsoft Store app was broken.

tomi000,

I dont even know anymore. These “Windows bad” posts get so stupid by now I can only assume it is satite at this point. Im just waiting for “Task Bar is 20px high instead of 21, literally unusable”

TheGreenGolem,

Yeah, like linux doesn’t do this shit all the time. Permission denied always. I’M YOUR FUCKING GOD, DON’T EVER DARE TO GIVE ME PERMISSION DENIED.

HellAwaits,

I mean, do you not understand the concept of ‘don’t mess with critical files if you want your system to last’? This isn’t necessarily a bad thing about windows.

stappern,

These are not system files. Not from this os.

PlaidBaron,
@PlaidBaron@lemmy.world avatar

Windows is designed for the average user and does very well in that regard. It prevents people with very little computer knowledge from totally messing things up.

Johanno,

sudo !!

PhiAU,

Of the many grievous faults of Windows to pick on, file system permissions like this are not one.

As admin you have permission to change ownership and override permissions. And a relic copy of the OS folder is going to have some of the most restrictive permissions possible.

I would expect similar behaviour on any modern OS.

Psythik,

OP is probably young and doesn’t remember the pre-Vista days, when viruses ran rampant because the concept of admin rights didn’t exist yet.

MystikIncarnate,

Oh, it existed. It was just much more difficult to use and required an understanding of what you’re doing to set it up first.

The UAC version from Vista+ is implemented by default and far easier to run/manage for the typical end user. Most users find it hella annoying, but it’s easier than the alternative, since they’ve never used the alternative, they don’t know that.

Basically, you’d have to create an admin account, and a user account, then intentionally not use the admin account except for admin things… I did this, and it kept me out of trouble in a couple of close calls. Windows power users trend up like to endorse or brag(?) About how often they reinstall, and bluntly, I almost never reinstall my PC. I just don’t bog it down with garbage constantly. :)

gornius,

Actually ACL on Windows is very bad. Recursively changing owner of directory can take minutes, same operation on any UNIX-like OS takes seconds.

eezeebee,
@eezeebee@lemmy.ca avatar

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Unfortunately it seems that you cannot be trusted with installation :(

const_void,

Just wait until you use Edge or accidentally the weather widget. You’ll be immediately bombarded with toxic political and celebrity news.

Psythik,

MSEdgeRedirect is the solution you’re looking for.

intensely_human,

Oh noes … folder permissions?

Guajojo,

This is perfectly normal, what you’re looking for is a more insecure OS maybe?

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

Windows, the first thing that comes to mind when someone talks about security. lol

stappern,

How is it insecure that your os does what you want ? XD

TurboFool,

Because what people want is often very, very stupid. And also because the difference between “you” and a malicious app acting like you is non-existent. If you can easily change vital files, so can any drive-by app you accidentally run.

bircelak,

Every other time I use windows, there’s some convoluted ‘issue’ that takes an hour of Googling and trial and error to fix. So frustrating. If you just use a browser and a few light apps to do your job (everyone except developers, in my company), save yourself a ton of wasted time and use a Mac.

Threegreenhouse,

Every other time use Mac OS, there’s some convoluted ‘issue’ that takes an hour of Googling and trial and error to fix. So frustrating. If you just use a browser and a few light apps to do your job (everyone except developers, in my company), save yourself a ton of wasted time and use a PC.

bircelak,

Ha! Touché PC guy, touché. My comment is just my opinion, but not any more valid than this

stappern,

A PC,with Linux. Win win.

cokane_88,
@cokane_88@lemmy.world avatar

OP is getting murdered in the comments…

1984,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

People are really harch with their downvotes. It really wasn’t that bad. :)

stappern,

I’m alive and well,also I don’t see downvotes :)

SeeJayEmm,
@SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org avatar

I don’t think windows has anything to do with your IQ slipping. You don’t understand how NTFS ACLs work and despite several people trying to explain them you stubbornly refuse to learn or reevaluate your stance.

MomSpaghetti,

But Windows bad

glimse,

It’s still a protected folder even if it’s not the active OS and that’s a good thing…? It will permanently break the install, how is Windows supposed to know you’re never going to use it again? It doesn’t see you as the owner and prevents you from messing it up.

But if you’re sure you want it gone, you need to Take Ownership

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