darcy,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

i use linux BECAUSE i fear technology…

maybe more accurately it should be ‘understand’ technology, but then why would windows be there ?

boonhet,

Windows isn’t afraid of tech, but MacOS is? Give me a break, the Unix style terminal is the reason for using MacOS professionally.

GlenTheFrog,
@GlenTheFrog@lemmy.ml avatar

Depends on the person. Most of the people I know who use MacOS, use it as a glorified Facebook machine. Outside of perhaps Word, they only use the web browser.

boonhet,

In my circles it’s used exclusively for software engineering. Mostly by people who like Linux but don’t wanna deal with any instability brought by customizing your install.

zagaberoo,

What kinds of customization create instability on Linux but are still possible on Mac?

Voli,

Computers are a tool and people use it for the needs that benefit them.

words_number,

Honestly, most windows users I know at least know where their files are stored and stuff like that. Average Mac users don’t know if something is synced with the cloud or not and can’t unpack a rar archive without calling support because they are deliberately kept dumb by that restrictive, overly oppinionated, lock-in OS and unrepairable, un-upgradable hardware ecosystem. I’m using linux as daily driver on laptop and desktop for almost a decade now and I hate windows with a passion, but mac manages to be even worse. Although windows is also getting worse with every version since win7, so they might be on par soon…

wolf,

To quote a designer friend of mine ‘Apple is the king of average’. :-P Most people I see using apple don’t even understand how shitty the UI is if your workflow is keyboard driven (snap windows w/o 3rd party programs for example.)

QuaternionsRock,

I’m not sure if my experience is any kind interesting or not, but here goes. This is coming from the perspective of a software engineer.

After using Windows for a few years, I switched to macOS for several years before needing to use some Windows-only software and switching back.

I always hated using iPadOS, and for a long time, I assumed this was primarily due to the lack of windowed applications (as well as the lack of software that was truly competitive with Windows/macOS offerings, at least at the time).

On the other hand, my experience with macOS is just the opposite. As soon as the feature was introduced, I started using applications exclusively in fullscreen whenever possible. This is partially the fault of macOS’s vanilla window system being unhelpful in several regards, but that doesn’t explain why I now miss it on Windows.

Yes, I know Windows now implements comparable multitouch gestures, but in my experience, it is terrible to use. The scroll speed is far too fast and cannot be changed independently, AFAIK. And maximized applications still have to choose between a persistent window border and a borderless mode that comes with its own pitfalls. I really don’t like it, but I still use alt+tab 99% of the time, just like I did on XP and 7.

I think the root of the problem is that you can only physically look at one thing at a time, but fullscreen applications work best in multitasking when the time spent switching windows (including the time spent consciously thinking about it) is minimized. iPadOS sometimes takes longer and the gesture is uncomfortable to perform on a tablet. Windows gets it wrong in how much you have to keep an eye on it. macOS, in my opinion, gets it just right.

MooseBoys,

Yeah this used to be the case up until the early 2000s. Then Microsoft started making Windows much less technical (e.g. instead of showing Error: HRESULT 0x80070002 it just showed Sorry, something went wrong :(). Conversely, Apple started exposing more tooling for MacOS, e.g. tracing, terminal, etc. instead of just showing <bomb picture> if something went wrong.

R3tl3f,
@R3tl3f@feddit.de avatar

Accurate

Simplesyrup,
@Simplesyrup@lemmy.ml avatar

Wooooo!!! Ubuntu

AwkwardTurtle,

I use Arch btw

min_fapper,

Having a life is overated. Praise be the glory of Arch Linux.

JakeHimself,

I feel like I missed my opportunity to brag about using Arch. I did an install a while back and the Arch wiki spoonfed everything to me. Once I got KDE installed, I honestly didn’t feel much a difference between my Arch install and, say, EndeavorOS. That said, I haven’t done any major upgrades yet, so…

TAG,

Has Gentoo stopped being the distro of choice for people with too much time on their hands?

poinck,

Compiling the browser or figuring out how to not trigger qtwebengine-dependency. No time to post anything.

BaumGeist,

I thought that was Arch, but it seems like NixOS is stealing all their users

heimchen,

Linux is to main stream -> OpenBSD

idk837384,

NetBSD is love, NetBSD is life.

phar,

What benefits do you have using Unix over Linux?

heimchen,

I don’t think OpenBSD is Unix, both unix like. For a usecase, I don’t know if there even is a scenario where you would want OpenBSD as a desktop user, other than preference. I guess it would feel a bit like gentoo.

phar,

What benefit would it have as a server or anything else compared to Linux? I’m not in the biz so I really don’t know.

heimchen,

Me neither

Mischala,

Do you play PC games?

Yes

Do you care about privacy?

Yes

LOL get fucked

nakal,
@nakal@kbin.social avatar

You can install Steam on Linux. In fact I have 2 PCs in my house for my sons. They run Windows games flawlessly. See for compatibility in the ProtonDB.

sheepyowl,

See the thing is, when you use Windows you don’t need a compatability list.

Ddhuud,

Edge with hover button to bing is now your default browser again.

Custodian1623,

Just wait until you try to install it on something without secure boot

Muffina,

On Windows it might be compatible but you’ll still face problems. Not to mention Linux has a better compatibility with older games

captainlezbian,

Yeah I installed Garuda yesterday and games worked great. It’s literally everything else that had me wanting a “Linux for fucking morons” class.

torafugu,
@torafugu@kbin.social avatar

And if that doesn't work, there's always alcohol Wine

nightdice,
@nightdice@feddit.de avatar

Linux gaming is pretty good these days. Basically the only major games you can’t play are the ones running super intrusive anticheats.

OtakuAltair,

Moved to Nobara os half a year back and haven’t had much issue with any game so far, not anymore than I did on windows

Fluid,
@Fluid@aussie.zone avatar

Maybe relevant 10 years ago, but not anymore. Hell, most games run better with Proton now, no background telemetry crap.

notasandwich1948,

could just be my luck but out of a few games I tried nothing ran as smooth as windows and also no g sync for me

UnverifiedAPK,

FNV somehow runs more stable on my Steam Deck than my PC at this point.

PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S,
@PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I tried running FNV on my home PC through Proton and it was basically a PowerPoint presentation. My Windows partition can run FNV just fine, even with a game-breaking number of mods. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong, as I’ve heard that FNV works well in WINE. I’m on Debian in case anyone wants to dunk on my shit help me out.

altima_neo,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I tried watch the other day. Couldn’t get passed the first step in the installer. It was like using a computer from the late 80s.

tartarsauce,
@tartarsauce@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

Tried what?

b1_,
@b1_@kbin.social avatar

I wouldn't say I'm that techy and I recently jumped over to Linux Mint from Windows because it has the C-compiler gcc pre-installed and it's UNIX seems to be a better experience for programming. It was easy to install, I find I'm going back to Windows less and less. I used to use Photoshop a lot, now I'm just using Krita. I'm lovin it so far. Only games are a problem maybe, although the game I play has a linux version, I just can't be bothered loading yet.

Linux Mint is supposed to be the easy for-the-layman Linux distro and that's been my experience so far - everything has worked, no issues.

crystal,

I wouldn’t say I’m that techy

I really like the C-compiler and general programming experience

b1_,
@b1_@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, okay, I am a little bit techy, but so far I haven't had to employ any of my limited techy abilities in Linux Mint. I didn't even notice I was using it more, it just happened over a few months that I was finding there was no need to go back to Windows. To load programs on Linux Mint I just google "How to load program X on Linux", and there will be a page saying, type "sudo apt install <program_name>" in Terminal and it always works and I'm done. (I'm a beginner programmer who was told to try Linux for the Unix stuff) .

If you're a gamer, I would look up any discussion of gaming in Linux - that would be my only proviso.

Jaamulberry,

I think the argument boils down to: Can a person who writes down their passwords in excel and calls chrome “the internet” use it. The answer is not yet. It’s better than it used to be but they is still a lot of work to be done. Typing commands in terminal is an actual non starter for my parents. In fact I would argue I don’t want them to be typing any sudo commands in terminal they got from the internet.

Hexadecimalkink,

Not sure why you got downvotes, my non-techy dad uses Mint to play civilization 5 and hasn’t used windows for at least a decade now.

torafugu,
@torafugu@kbin.social avatar

Guess I don't have a life.

Use btw I Arch.

min_fapper,

There’s a Lemmy instance where you don’t have to say that.

Lamy,

What is the puzzle piece? Linux from scratch?

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

I think it’s Kali

torafugu,
@torafugu@kbin.social avatar

Kali is the dragon below the puzzle piece.

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

oh, that’s a puzzle piece? Then googling it, @Lamy’s guess was right, the puzzle piece is LfS.

passepartout,

Have no life, still chose Fedora / Debian. The days of Ubuntu are long gone tho.

SeeMinusMinus,
@SeeMinusMinus@lemmy.world avatar

This meme is broken. I use fedora and have no life.

LibertyBeta,

What about Suse?

toastedenough,

They should’ve added another path, “Do you like amazon?” -> Ubuntu

neurohost,

Why you put kali in no life 🧐 what problem does it have

nightdice,
@nightdice@feddit.de avatar

It’S a HaCkeR dIsTrO /s

My guess is the person who originally made this doesn’t have all that much Linux experience and doesn’t know that Kali is just Debian with lots of pre-installed security tools (and not intended as a daily driver)

neurohost,

From its core I think it’s correct we just need a Compactable kernal and drivers and some script to get our work done

dream_weasel,

“do you have a life” -> “Are you independently capable”

FTFY

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

Ah yes me the intellectual using Kali Linux to play Skyrim

dream_weasel,

How else will you pen test the dragons?

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