owiseedoubleyou,

I have to say, they’re certainly an impovement over Breeze, but I still prefer the Oxygen ones

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

I don’t to be teased anymore. I have been looking forward to Plasma 6 for months now.

AlijahTheMediocre,

Now KDE needs to implement a consistent design language for its apps, clean up its settings, and have better defaults. Not asking KDE to copy Gnome, just that it needs a lot more work to be palletable to someone using it for the first time.

gnumdk,
@gnumdk@lemmy.ml avatar

TODO since KDE 3…

ShitOnABrick,
@ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world avatar

Looks awesome

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, well, I’m sticking with Kora.

JRepin,
@JRepin@lemmy.ml avatar

Loving the new style. Still a bit of rough edges to polish and can’t wait to see them in practice after the finall release in February next year.

Pantherina,
@Pantherina@feddit.de avatar

This is soooo good

jcdenton,
@jcdenton@lemy.lol avatar

Kinda hard to tell with the symbols due to the white on light blue

woodgen,

Why is everything a folder? What does a debian or android folder do?

omnissiah,
@omnissiah@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

It folds Debian to prevent Debian prions

XTornado,

Debían no idea… But I guess android could be android studio folders or similar stuff?

FooBarrington,

It’s deb, not Debian, so I’d assume it’s the icon for .deb files (which are browsable archives).

richardisaguy,
@richardisaguy@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, everything will be a folder in plasma 6, including applications, don’t worry, you I’ll love the new Firefox folder. Its the natural progression of things, don’t try to stop it.

leap123,
@leap123@lemmy.world avatar

Everything’s previously a file, now everything is a folder

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

Look forward to Plasma 6 where everything will be an application. Downloads folder? That’s an application now. A font you just installed? Application. The video you just downloaded? You guessed it

StephniBefni,

Looks like mountain lion

Matty_r,
@Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

My opinion, if possible, just use the Papirus icons by default. It does such a great job of being consistent while giving apps their own look.

SuperSpruce,

I’m not the most knowledgeable on this subject, but I’m curious to learn more.

Why do various toolkits have major releases that seem to reset the features of the last one?

GTK 3 seems like GTK 2 but slower to me, and before the transition was even complete GTK 4 showed up, which just seems like GTK 3 but a bit different. Qt 5 works really well and is efficient on resources, so why are we switching to Qt 6? It seems like reinventing the desktop over and over again.

I understand updates for the kernel for compatibility, small to medium updates to all software for bug fixes and new features, and major updates to toolkits when there are big problems with the current release (X vs Wayland for example). Or if the current release was unreliable and bloated, which I heard was what happened with Qt 4 and why they switched to 5. But I also heard Qt 3 was really stable and lightweight, so why did they switch away from it?

Antergo,

Gtk 3->4 made a lot of internal changes, and at least some were related to making wayland work. Wayland “worked” in gtk3, however it was very much an afterthought, and half the toolkit was useless under wayland. Other changes are usually required for changes related to rendering, gtk4 had vulcan rendering which may require some breaking changes. Another thing is just general breaking changes that are good, sometimes you realise some decision was bad, and a new major release is just a way to make these.

From the end users perspective nothing much changes, it maybe looks a bit different, but not much besides that. But a vulcan renderer and being fully wayland compatible are major improvements that also improve the user experience, even if you don’t notice directly.

SuperSpruce,

Interesting. I’m guessing the changes were too big to just be added incrementally in updates to GTK 3?

Markaos,
@Markaos@lemmy.one avatar

Usually the problem isn’t that the changes are big, but that the new way simply isn’t compatible with the old way to do things, and you can’t just make a change that will break existing applications in minor versions (well, there’s nothing technically stopping you, and unintentional compatibility breaking bugs have definitely happened in the past, but people are gonna get real mad at you if you do that). Even if you break that change up into thousand tiny changes over many minor versions, the end result is that at some point, you break old apps.

The solution is to take note of all the things that are either badly designed or became obsolete and once in a while go “hey, let’s make a new major version and fix all of this crap”. With a new major version, you don’t have to worry about old applications and are free to improve your library in any way you wish, and you also get the option to keep updating the old major version with some maintenance bugfixes so that the old apps keep working well enough.

SuperSpruce,

The unfortunate consequence of this is that old working apps need compatibility updates.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Usually there’s big new features that accomodate more modern hardware better. As an example, Qt6 revamps support for Wayland, HDR, and scaling. Even these things on their own don’t seem like much, but if you go back to KDE 5 in 10 years time you’ll definitely feel like something is plain/dated (or completely not working if you’re on new hardware)

SuperSpruce,

Thank you for the explanation! What specifically does Qt 6 do that Qt 5 can’t do?

Resol,
@Resol@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve seen better designs. But I’ve also seen worse designs. This is pretty meh.

And I was gonna try out KDE anyway.

KISSmyOS,

KDE is the epitome of meh.

jernej,

Isn’t KDE spearheding HDR support for Wayland? And doing a bunch more objectively good/usefull projects like the xwayland video bridge?

KISSmyOS, (edited )

Technologically, it’s the best DE out there, no contest. (Maybe with the exception of touchscreen integration)
But some design decisions grind my gears so hard I can’t use it.
I get irrationally angry when I see the bouncing cursor animation, or look at a list of my programs and half the names start with “K”.
It feels too sluggish, overloaded and Windows-y in its default configuration and getting rid of everything that nags me takes too long, when Gnome comes out of the box looking simple and stylish.

possiblylinux127,

I want to like KDE but its still way to unstable for me on Fedora. Its probably just a matter of time before its stable enough for daily usage

jsh,

Nvidia?

possiblylinux127,

No

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
LtLiana,
@LtLiana@startrek.website avatar

I don’t mind this.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

There are even light and dark wallpapers with transparent version to build your own!

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